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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2006-03-03 at 12:17:41
Wait, is this topic is about how chocolate people are superior race lmfao.gif

I hope you guys understand thats stupid to think so wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by VizuaL on 2006-03-03 at 13:54:58
this lies in stereotypical area.. but its not all true, i know some asians that are average students and some blacks that suck at basketball
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-03-03 at 17:28:55
QUOTE(Rantent @ Mar 2 2006, 11:08 PM)
Do you ever think that the people are like that because of the social values? These solcial values exsist because we uphold them.
If we didn't believe in them they wouldn't exsist.
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Which was the point I was trying to get accross in my previous long post.


QUOTE(nimadude @ Mar 2 2006, 11:56 PM)
People of jewish decent in blood are good in science, I believe.. Einstein was like sorta jewish....me too! WOOT. science is my strongest subject so yeah
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@Vizual
There will ALWAYS be exceptions, but for the most part, stereotypes are true.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falcon_A on 2006-03-03 at 17:42:54
Personally, I believe that you can't judge a whole group of people, or expect something from a certain group of people, just that many people that look like them are like that.

Blacks good at basketball? Fine, be stereotypical, I guess there's plenty. I see them as good players, not as black basketball players.

Asians good at math or are intelligent? According to stats, maybe so. It doesn't really mean anything about asians specifically, hell, maybe they surveyed all the smart asians ;P

Saying that someone is a certain way because of the expected life values, or the expected traits because of their appearance, is like saying someone wants to die and is goth because they were black. someone is a ranger fan if they wear a shirt with them on it.

Someone with a shaved head and is white is a neo nazi....etc.

Okay, okay, that's stretching it too far, but I think that it could get out of hand. I do believe there are trends in a group, but that doesn't specifically matter if you just find like one person from that group. They could be different.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2006-03-06 at 02:58:48
Asians are "smarter" mostly because of their culture which strives for excellence, and underachieving is looked down upon.

If a traditionally asian family adopted a black, white or hispanic baby at birth they would be on par with an asian child of the same family.

Thats just one example but the key to all of these stereotypes are culturally based and have 0 to do with biological cues.
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Asians invented paper, gunpowder, silk, and all that cool stuff tongue.gif


The Egyptians invented papyrus, the earliest known form of paper.

QUOTE(SiLeNT(U))
I think Kow summed it up pretty well. It seems that every race is "gangsta" now, however it's mostly asians and blacks.


Wow..I mean wow, you've never seen a white person listen to rap? Believe me they are quite numerous, go to a Eminem concert if you dont believe me.

QUOTE(Falcon_A)
Saying that someone is a certain way because of the expected life values, or the expected traits because of their appearance, is like saying someone wants to die and is goth because they were black. someone is a ranger fan if they wear a shirt with them on it.


Actually ist quite true, whether you want to admit it or not. Its the basis of human psychology to meld into your surroundings, so if you are highly expected/pressured to be a certain way you will most likely become that image unless something happens or influences you to do otherwise. Its a bit more complicated in such a culturally diverse nation as america but the basic principles are all the same.

and unless you're female if you're wearing a Rangers shirt you are 99.9% likely to be a Ranger fan. For example my girl sometimes wears my K-State Wildcats hoodie, I can without a doubt gurantee she's not a wildcat fan while I would not have bought the hoodie if I werent.

I know its blatantly obvious of me to do so but anyone who belongs to the goth clicque and dresses like one has a different life outlook than a non goth.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-03-06 at 09:53:55
QUOTE(Helios @ Mar 6 2006, 02:58 AM)
Wow..I mean wow, you've never seen a white person listen to rap? Believe me they are quite numerous, go to a Eminem concert if you dont believe me. [right][snapback]440370[/snapback][/right]

Don't forget the latinos. Everyone is wanting in on the 'action'.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2006-03-06 at 13:59:19
^The problem with that though is that its hard to differentiate the difference if the latino hip hop scene came about on its own(like Reggaeton) or if its more like how wiggers and asians got into it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SiLeNT(U) on 2006-03-06 at 16:19:56
I never said I haven't seen white gangstas, I just used asian and blacks as examples, I've seen tons of white ones too. However, where I live, there aren't as many.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-03-06 at 16:29:07
I don't believe that everybody is born completely equal, but I do think that 90% of a person's development is due to their upbringing and not their race or any other genetic reason.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kyuubi. on 2006-03-06 at 16:32:56
It just depends what an individual person likes to do...they mostly get the interest from their parents. Families that are into industrial and engineering kind of stuff most likely influences other people to do it...
Well maybe its just us, but most asians in general are into technology, computers, games, and stuff. most people that play starcraft and wc3 are asians(i heard starcraft is most popular in korea)

anyway back on topic, its like i said the surrounding has an impact on what makes us we are in general, so do the family, or your own ideas... the world is a very diverse place, the united states is one of them, where almost every culture and beliefs are here, it isn't as concentrated as the other countries, so w're just showing more pride or something...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-03-06 at 16:37:13
It is affected largely by the upbringing, of course, but genetics plays a large part in intelligence, personality, athletics, etc.
Some people play on computer all day and have perfect vision, others don't play at all and have worse vision. Some people can eat sweets all day and stay athletic, and others can't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-03-06 at 20:32:11
But isn't it possible that blacks are born naturally more physically fit than white or yellow (lol?) people? I mean.. Looking at NBA and most running stuff on TV at Olympics, we can clearly see the abundance of blacks and uniqueness of asians on the courts and the tracks. But as we get to intellectual stuff, we can see abundance of asians and uniqueness of blacks.

My question to you is why is this happening? What makes them so special?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-03-06 at 20:38:18
They aren't born different to be stronger, it's not like black people are born strong. Same with us Asians with intelligence. There's nothing different in our DNA, and that's been proven. It's just lifestyle.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Helios on 2006-03-07 at 02:01:36
The concept of race has no validity in the human species whatsoever from a biological standpoint. "Race" is purely a social construction.

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My question to you is why is this happening? What makes them so special?


What makes them "special" is cultural upbringing.

QUOTE(Centreri)
It is affected largely by the upbringing, of course, but genetics plays a large part in intelligence, personality, athletics, etc.
Some people play on computer all day and have perfect vision, others don't play at all and have worse vision. Some people can eat sweets all day and stay athletic, and others can't.


These genes are largely equally diverse throughout the entire population and are not at all related to the genes that determine skin complextion and hair type. This rule is only broken in special cases such as relatively small groups like jews, who have historically(through religon) only had kids with other jews.

A couple weeks ago a mixed couple gave birth to twins, one was white the other was black. This is probaly the biggest example(and its far from the first time happening) that there is no difference in race.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-03-07 at 16:15:08
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Mar 6 2006, 04:29 PM)
I don't believe that everybody is born completely equal, but I do think that 90% of a person's development is due to their upbringing and not their race or any other genetic reason.
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90% of a person's mental/emotional development*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-03-08 at 11:28:08
Well, you know what I meant.

Physical development is probably more genetic (e.g. maximum possible height, metabolic rate etc.), but environmental factors also feature. If you're not fed enough then you won't grow to your full potential, for example. If your left eye is not exposed to light for a few months when you're a baby then you'll be blind in your left eye for life.

Mental development is definitely more environmental than genetic, but some people are more predisposed to certain mental conditions or abilities.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-03-08 at 16:27:17
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Mar 8 2006, 11:28 AM)
Physical development is probably more genetic (e.g. maximum possible height, metabolic rate etc.), but environmental factors also feature. If you're not fed enough then you won't grow to your full potential, for example. If your left eye is not exposed to light for a few months when you're a baby then you'll be blind in your left eye for life.
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Or if you have a seizure at the age of two on easter and have high fevers of 108+, that could affect your left eye's vision. Just hypothetically speaking though ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-03-08 at 16:37:31
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They aren't born different to be stronger, it's not like black people are born strong. Same with us Asians with intelligence. There's nothing different in our DNA, and that's been proven. It's just lifestyle.

Actually I'm quite sure the DNA is different. The human species adapted differently in different parts of the world. In warm places, people have dark hair, while in cold they have light hair, etc. I think it's same to assume that humans adapted differently in different parts of the world in more then hair and skin color. There's probably not much of a difference, though.

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Physical development is probably more genetic (e.g. maximum possible height, metabolic rate etc.), but environmental factors also feature. If you're not fed enough then you won't grow to your full potential, for example. If your left eye is not exposed to light for a few months when you're a baby then you'll be blind in your left eye for life.

Mental development is definitely more environmental than genetic, but some people are more predisposed to certain mental conditions or abilities.

Yep. Unless born with a defect your intelligence almost always depends on environment, while athletic skill is half-genetics and half-environmental.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-03-08 at 16:38:12
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Physical development is probably more genetic (e.g. maximum possible height, metabolic rate etc.), but environmental factors also feature. If you're not fed enough then you won't grow to your full potential, for example. If your left eye is not exposed to light for a few months when you're a baby then you'll be blind in your left eye for life.


Traits acquired during one's life is not passed on, for example if you body build your children won't be born with huge muscles. I don't know if you mean that or something like genitically being born fat.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-03-08 at 19:02:32
QUOTE(olaboy- @ Mar 8 2006, 09:38 PM)
Traits acquired during one's life is not passed on, for example if you body build your children won't be born with huge muscles. I don't know if you mean that or something like genitically being born fat.
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That's true - traits that you acquire during life will not affect how your offspring will look. Like if you lost a leg your kids wouldn't be born with one leg. Conversely, if you are naturally very thin (i.e. you can eat loads and do little exercise without getting fat) you are likely to have a high basal metabolic rate (BMR) - and this is a genetic thing - the kind of thing that you can pass on to the next generation.

The physical things that can get passed on are often like parameters. Potential height, for example, is a limit which you can't break, no matter how good your diet is (Maybe injections of growth hormone could affect this, but it would probably fark you up too).

Other things which you can pass on are:
- Cystic Fibrosis, Huntingdon's Syndrome and a lot of other disabilities.
- Life expectancy (to a small extent).
- Predisposal to heart disease, cancer and mental illness.

One interesting thing is that races have evolved and diverged away from one another in some respects. Africans, for example, are more likely to get sickle cell anaemia because having the gene for sickle cell anaemia gives protection against malaria, which is so prevalent in Africa.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-03-11 at 23:06:11
There is really no such thing called "Racial Superiority" i think its the way they grow up, Example, "Rappers" They grow up in a bad enviorment and look how they turn up, Its not because they are black and have some skill on ryming a bunch of meaningless words, Whites invented it, Whites can pretty much do the same thing, But they get a negitve responce from the black population, But that is a hole different discussion. Anyway, my point being is that its not there race that decides the skill, Its how they grow up i think...

Edited out trolling at the start of the post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-03-11 at 23:11:56
I agree. It has alot to do with how you grow up. The way you were raised determines what kind of life you live/lead.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-03-13 at 21:51:13
QUOTE(DeadlyInnocence @ Mar 1 2006, 09:07 PM)
Face it. Black people are more athletic than Asians or Whites. NBA consists of about 90% African-Americans. But, Asians' intelligence beats all... 25% of MIT population is Asian.

Do you think that this is true that there is racial superiority for some races like blacks and asians? If not, explain...

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No.. i belive every person works their way through life. Even most White people. See some americans are...more leanant against white people. This makes Black people and asian people forced to work hard. In todays Society asians are known to be smart, so they work really hard to get there Position in life. and blacks are just cool.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarK on 2006-03-18 at 10:30:08
Well this kind of is true.. But we have to see that they are different people in pretty much different cultures.. Asian people think much differently then Europeans for example and so on but its all dependant on the individual..
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