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OK Chris where did you get all this information? How they operate? FOX? CNN? Didn't think so.

DT, one you would never be labeled a terrorist, and two if some one is spyed upon there is overwelming cause to do so, international calls.
those two words are all you need!
International calls



Evidence?



2nd Cousin visiting my house after going to the superbowl with my brother. Wanted to be in the CIA(or maybe FBI? dang well either one works) and he told about the trials and tests and things he had to go through and how each department worked. Nothing classified and nothing you couldn't find on your own.

No Child left behind-
created to gain popularity support. does not promote education, only test results.
War on Terrorism-
You cannot fight a war on terrorism. Thats like fighting a religion.
Invasion of Afganistan-
Attack of the Taliban, Osama not found.
Invasion of Iraq-
Iraq attacked because of "weapons of mass destruction" what about korea and iran? Monopoly on oil and such.
Prolonged occupancy of Iraq-
shows his inefficiency to serve as our president. He has no plan, he leaves it for the next president.
Our Privacy-
Does the abuse of power really lead to the capture of terrorists?

Also, the WMD thing.... Downing street memo shows that wasn't the case... he wasn't in there for the WMD's he just used that as an excuse to get in their.

A good book with solid proof for corruption and cover-ups and lies is the book "Lies my History Teacher Told me". Shows the blind optimism and blind patriotism put into our "educational" school books.

BTW now that I think about his lies... what about him saying that "no one anticipated the levees breaking in any way" yet the tapes clearly show him being briefed that the levees have a good chance of breaking.... maybe it just slipped his mind? Don't think so.

Its enivitable that a government will eventually lead into a tyranny or police state at one point. Show me a government that hasn't.

He calls me bias and brainwashed but i have one question for chris... Hows Bush's ass smell?

More like infringes our rights.

In order to increase test results, you have to increase quality of education.


Yah you can. Kill all the terrorists and you win.


Osama was in there at the time of 9/11. Where else would we go?


Your right. We should have left and said "Whoever comes out on top gets to be dictator."


Your privacy hasn't been invaded.

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All right, Professor Blanket Statement, let's have a look at this:

Quality of education is not "increased" by any standard by imposing standardized tests that disrupt established curricula. Furthermore, standardized tests rarely serve any more purpose than providing statistics for nice-looking charts that are entirely useless.

There's a bit of a difference between "kill the terrorists" and "fight a sustained leech campaign against an enemy that has substantial grassroots resources, fights concealed, blows up a few more $4,000,000 U.S. soldiers every day, and has in its employ people who can wire something as innocuous as a cell phone to destroy a marketplace."


Since you're already evidently blind to the reality of Iraq, here's a little tidbit for you: that's what is going to happen anyway. The whole country is descending into civil war, between Sunni and Shi'ia. The place is going to become a theocracy, and yet another bastion of anti-American sentiment. The conservatives in their $400 suits always say "It's talk like that that'll lose us the war!" No it won't, it's talk like THAT that shows how ing stupid so many people all, if they can't realize what a beating american forces take every day. This isn't WWII, with massive troop movements and tanks rolling across embankments, it's Iraq, and it's now 2006. War is done underground, under the eyes of snipers, demolition experts, and suicide bombers. That is not a recipe for stability.

And as far as I'm concerned, if so much as a single person has their personal activities monitored by the now-gigantic federal government (so much for the Republican small government..), then the right to privacy has been violated, much like the rest of the Constitution. Bush wants to ban gay marriage, so does half the Senate. Bush wants to ban burning the American flag, so does half the senate, the ing republican bureaucrat half. The democrats are just as useless, but as a whole they're not IDIOTIC FEAR MONGERS.

If people slog on with giving vague, defunct answers, replete with standard Senate-level circumlocution, to the questions and accusations posed by those who can see through the worn veil of secrecy that this administration has grown so endeared to, then I can't see any point in this nation's continued existence.

And they will know not to fark with us

Ok, about the patriot act. I don't care so much about it. It's just, if they can pass that they will try to pass something else more controversial and then so on and so forth. He is trying to see what he can get away with and what he can't. Phone tapping? He "got away" with that practicly. Patriot act goes againts our rights; but he still got away with it.
Next he will be trying to make us into a dictatorship. (last part eggsaguration.)
(he = President Bush)

Well if he wants anything new to put in hes got like 2 years to do it. So far have you heard of him abusing the Patriot act?

most of the terrorists purpose is to screw with us. Most of them use thier religion to justify thier terrorism and have no hesitation to take thier own life.

abusing an abuse of power hm....

What has he abused? Patriot act? Signed by congross...

proving that most of congress as well abuses thier power.

There have been instances of abuses within the Patriot Act.

Just google it!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=patri...G=Google+Search


In order for the Patriot Act supporters to win, they need to concede this point; they'll have to argue that it's worth taking the risk because it "protects" us. (At least that's how I won those debates ;p)

It's also very likely that the situations in which the Patriot Act is abused were never reported.

Well either way, using it to ban homeless people from a train station is over the line in my eyes.

I just wish the government would not promise us safety, because safety is not a reasonable promise on a national scale.

Well, people will believe anything that they hear on tv .

Its a start. I would rather have them try and keep me safe then do nothing at all you know.

I'm sure the Gestapo kept the people "safe" too.

He sent basically many of the troops into Iraq...And we are losing a bunch of troops in Iraq alone...And we might have a possible war against Pakistan. So how will we fight that?

uhh don't you mean Iran??

Doesen't matter what country, the point is we are already screwed, and we can't get any more screwed.