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The reason why the Allies established a foothold in central Europe is because they sent fake landings to Norway and northeast Europe to make Hitler think that the real landings were to occur there and not north of France. As the troops that landed in France slowly made their way into Europe, Hitler still thought that the real landings were about to happen. Eventually, when word got to Berlin that the Allies have landed on Normandy, Hitler was sleeping in his bed. His servants didn't want to wake him up because they knew he would throw a tantrum and possibly even kill them. Hitler finally reacted and sent his forces to western Europe but it was already too late because all of the Allied forces were gathered there and were more superior than the Axis.

There was also the factor of weather. Rommel, and MANY of the high command in the area where off on trips becuase they believed the weather was too vigerous for a successful invasion.

Rommel later was quoted saying:

"How stupid of me" or something to that extent.

Oh wow rofl, 10 disc dvd set, probally full of crap. You don’t know more about ww2 than me, anyone can just google shiz, witch you are probally doing. Wouldn’t surprise me. He wasn’t throwing a trantrum, as doodan said he probally would’ve killed them if they woke him up. Inless you have more sources i suggest you leave this thread and never come back.


Its about time somone with intellgence posted.


Exactly.

I remember the history channel saying something that cocain was initially made illegal because the whites feared the blacks would get high and rape the white women back during slavery. History channel sounds reliable enough for me. But I only truely recommend penn & teller. I can only think of a couple things they're wrong, and a just couple more that I'm just not quite sure. They're by far source of information that I know, besides the dictionary.

Anyways, back on topic:
Ya, hitler was like hitting people. hence the name hitler.

He was a man of intense genius, which led to paranoia. As it usually does. Had he not been a warrior he most likely would've gone and become a writer. One thing is for sure, he was good at everything he did.

Hate jews.
Conduct war.
Rule the masses.

They can be compared to eachother in the aspect that we took and held a mass amount of people for no reason.



Um.. He is. Look at what he has gotten our country into with the power of words and deception.



Syphon pretty much summed it up.

Zombie, it was made by the Discovery channel, they don't get paid if its not accurate.

Zombie, I am a WW2 nut and Army nut in general, don't think for one second that I don't know what Im talking about. When hitler woke up he threw a tantrum, no one dared bring up the question. That is a fact.

bring up what question exactly?

Many things on the Discovery channel are inaccurate, and many other are conjecture. I HIGHLY doubt you watch it as much as I do, have you ever seen The Future is Wild? That's not fact and they got payed for it. A few things on Mythbusters I've personally proven wrong, and several other shows often contradict themselves.

Hitler didn't throw tantrums. He wasn't an emo. When he got angry he calculated.

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(Coming from the person with Stalingrad in his screename)

-The Allies got a foothold in Normandy becuase
1. Diversions in Norway and Belgian/Germanic waters (Metal Scraps and dust was sprinkled through the air to distrupt communication to fake an invasion, also inflatable tanks were placed in strategic zones as decoys for german air recon to show an "invading army" en route to certain places)

2. Hitler thought that he could crush the allies even if they took the beaches. Like many other previous scenerios, the germans would lure in enemy forces and hit them with tanks, grenadier infantry, and air power when surrounded. Too bad they didn't control the skies in Normandy and the German Air Force was crap in 1944.

Side: Hitler had a tantrum the NIGHT BEFORE the invasion, that's why his servants were so afraid to wake him.

-Hitler's mother wasn't kill by the doctor, she just died even with his help. I doubt that set his major hate for the jews anyways. He got his hate from mainly anti-jewish propaganda which was everywhere in Austria and Southern Germany during the time, he took it to a whole new level.

-He was no tactical Genius, he took control of the Germany Army from his Commanders/Generals when they were doing so well and screwed up so many battle plans. Why do you think Russia went so bad? A 900-day siege of Leningrad? WTF.

-All German high command knew that World War II was the biggest mistake Germany ever made in its history. Why did they make 3 attempts to kill Hitler?

-There is some loose evidence that depicts Hitler's use of mind effecting drugs (loose though, keep in mind) he definatley suffered from some mental illnesses (not retardation though ) .

-About Americans killing Native Americans, we were British separatists then, and the Spanish/French did more harm than "Americans" then.

-The Nazi Party only controlled about 12% of the German People. (Pissed off people btw)

And how was Hitler smart by the way? By exploiting an already on going hatred of a certain people by blaming the dying, hungry, and economical problems on them? I think some of you are getting the idea that Hitler had all the German people behind him when they didn't.

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Actually the teacher wasn't jewish but he still wasn't accepted. During his time in Vienna (btw two of his closest friends were Jewish) he admired many of the Jewish artists, art dealers, and operatic preformers/producers. Vienna was also though a center for Anti-Semitism which probably influenced hitler alot towards the end of his 6 years staying there.

After World War I is when you can truely say his hatred for jews (democrats/communists/and internationalists) really starts.

Dude.. We were Americans by the time we left for the west.. We were only seperatists until after the Revolutionary War -_-

But who owned the territories west of the Mississippi before we bought them? The land was't just there an undisrupted before United States explorers entered.

Edit-Wasn't not was -.-

Back to topic

He is just like the U.S. president of today.
*Puts on anti-flame suit*

You can't compare "myth busters" to programs about WWII.

That man couldn't manipulate a wire cutter; other people with far more influence do it for him.

They both had reasons. Ours was so we could "save" americans from "spies" so that we could live "safer". Hitler's reason was because he thought it would be really funny to kill people in horrible ways.

Actually, it was that one doctor that killed them all in different ways. He experimented on them.

Hitler just ordered their destruction.

exactly.

What's the differant? Both were screwed up.

The difference is one is fact, and the other isn't?

That’s not the only reasons, but its some.


She did die, she was given a dangerous drug that was known to kill people and the doctor gave it to her because it had a low chance to help her breast cancer.


True, he wasn’t good at warfare.


That was never proven, it’s said that there were failed assassination attempts; it most likely wasn’t from his own commanders.


I remember reading some thing about that.

Where the hell did that come from?


You’re telling me that nothing influenced the German population? What the hell? He was great speaker witch needs intelligence.


That’s true, but you forget that Hitler was strongly influenced about ww1 I can’t remember what the book said that I read that talked about it. But it had something to do with a assassination.

Yup.

Sure Hitler was a great speaker, but he never would have gotten anywhere without his high command of army generals. I mean, take a look at the Battle of Britain. England stood alone, and Germany could launch air strikes anywhere from western France to northern Norway. The high command was targeting the key airfields of the RAF and really putting the hurt on them. (Pretty much sonar is the only thing that saved them)

Hilter though, in all his military wisdom, decides in a common tantrum to take over the attack and start bombing London. Theres mass confusion between bombers and fighters, with bombers going in first and being shot down. So, Hitler eventually gives up.

Had he not taken over from his generals, Britain could have very well fallen to Germany. Point: If you are ever declaring war on the world, keep your cool and let your generals do their job. World domination guaranteed or money back.

Hitler was actually an admirable man. He was a painter dedicated to his work in vienna, austria where he grew a hatred towards jews. Because his mentor had influenced him about the "emotional aspects of jews," he went on to Germany to be free of jewish acts. He then knew that once he arrived in Germany, he could try to seize power to kill all jews. At this point, the votes were being casted and Hitler won by ONE vote. After creating nazi germany, he decided to throw jews into concentration camps and death camps. He was a good man until his mentor had changed him and the jewish doctor incident which caused him to become a mad man. Although everyone says he killed jews, he never actually killed a man in his entire life (besides himself) He ordered soldiers to collect them and take them to concentration camps but he never ordered them to be killed (unless he sent them to death camps)

Alrighty Zombie I'm going to ask you to provide us with the information to the claims you make about the drug, the information of how it was not his own commanders (Because everywhere I have heard of this, it has always given names of his commanders)

What does the assasination of the duke that began WWI have anything to do with Hitler? Hitler was a soldier in WWI.. What are you trying to get at with the assasination of Duke Ferdinan (I believe that was his name)