I'm sure this has been repeated at least twice in this topic, but I do not fear death, but the process to get to that state. I fear pain (yes, I'm a wimp) and I do not wish to suffer. I avoid death just to avoid the pain that I would have to be put through, and to keep having the good times I have while being alive.
Death is inevitable, yes, but I would prefer to leave the pain part of it out. I guess I can't really choose until the time comes.
Besides the many-times-repeated fact that I really feel the pain that usually comes before death (in most death scenarios), I also fear the pain and suffering and loss that I would cause to others if I died.
My love for life. The fear that there is a vengefull god or perhaps no god at all....
I am unscared of death.
I've got a view of life that goes into how life is an illusion and everything is just a bunch of atoms. We are no different than star, we are just a chemical reactions. Therefor death is just a term we refer to describe a set of chemical reactions. Because of that, I lack the ability to be afraid/scared of death, life, and it's a great way to overcome a fear of well anything.
I like to think outside of myself, humanity, and the universe itself.
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We are no different than star, we are just a chemical reactions. Therefor death is just a term we refer to describe a set of chemical reactions.
Objectively, this is true. But none of us can see things objectively. Your death might physically be just a standard chemical process, but to
you, to your mind and perception, it is much, much more than that. To put it in perhaps a simpler way, consider my modified version of your statement:
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StarCraft is no different than stars and stuff, it is just a physical process. Therefore playing StarCraft is just a term we refer to describe a set of physical processes.
According to you, this would mean that there is no point in playing StarCraft. Obviously, from our subjective viewpoints, that is not true. We play StarCraft because we find it fun, we don't care about what it actually physically is. Similarly, we stay alive because it's fun.
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I like to think outside of myself, humanity, and the universe itself.
Well, metaphysics and philosophy and so on are all very well, but for the moment we also have to consider our actual, down-to-Earth situations some of the time. It is this type of thinking that leads to playing StarCraft rather than sitting on the top of a tibetan mountain meditating (and I doubt you've done the latter, while I can be reasonably certain you've done the former many times).
I don't fear it. I just think I'll miss certain things I loved while I was alive. Of course there is the uncertainty of my religion, and the uncertainty of what will happen afterwards, and although I may be a bit confused about that, it's something I'll never know until I get there...but from every logical viewpoint, I would assume I just die and I'm done completely, no 'after-life' or anything of that nature. I agree with the many who mentioned that they dislike pain, but I wouldn't say I fear it, or death. If I had to be scared of death, it would probably because I have too much to live for...
like spending my friday night posting on SEN....
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Of course I'm afraid of death (the process of death, and death itself)!
Many of you say that death is natural, how does that have anything to do with fearing death? Fearing death itself is natural also. I can think of several logical reasons why anyone would fear death:
1. You can't be happy anymore if you're dead (and if you don't like being happy then you've created a complex paradox that will probably lead to the collapse of our universe).
2. Everyone you know wont be happy that you are dead, and if you don't like others being happy, then you're abnormal.
3. The process of death isn't (usually) enjoyable, you fear things that aren't enjoyable.
4. Our basic goal as living organisms are to survive, and it's tough surviving if you are dead.
5. You can't not fear something you don't like, and if you would like to die then recieve professional help.
6. Family and friends will find all the adult images stored on your computer.
(#6) Who is that careless? I'm afraid of death because I haven't done anything with my life yet. I've just been to school, day in day out. There's so much more I want to do, and i don't want to lose the chance to do it.
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I just think I'll miss certain things I loved while I was alive.
No you won't. You can't miss anything if you can't think.
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(#6) Who is that careless?
lol
Wow, I'm pretty much the opposite of most of you...I'm not afraid of the dying itself, it's just the thought of non-existence that disturbs me...I'm a not so faithful Christian-ish person, so if I die, and there IS a Heaven/Hell...Well, the fact that I would be screwed scares me too.
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I'm a not so faithful Christian-ish person, so if I die, and there IS a Heaven/Hell...Well, the fact that I would be screwed scares me too.
Well, I'm an atheist, and personally I suspect that if Heaven and Hell do exist, the atheists are probably more likely to go to Heaven than the theists.
I don't find myself scared of death, but I am scared of the way I might die. You really won't know the way you are going to die but its just as I see it the cycle of life. You may not want to die in pain or as many of the other ways you can die but you just won't know, unless you kill yourself which I find an utterly display of being a pussy lol.
I doubt anyone here who said they are unafraid of death cannot even hurting themselves majorly without being nervous and then eventually dying.
Face it, humans are naturally afraid of death unless some wires have crossed a wrong line.
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Dec 18 2006, 03:38 PM)
Uncertainty of an afterlife is the only thing that bugs me. Contemplating nonexistance just blows my mind.
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Pretty much. Fear of death is actually natural, it is the root of all fear (although it might not seem like it). Of course, all of this is on a subconscious level. This is just basic human psychology. That is my reason. And as long as I'm here, here's how I'd like to die:
1. Die in my sleep of heart failure.
2. Die in meaningful combat (Ex. Not a barfight
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I'm not really scared of dieing, I'm just scared about After-Death. Often I battle in my head of the possiblities of an After-Life and if there is, where would I end up because of my Atheism.
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Well, I'm an atheist, and personally I suspect that if Heaven and Hell do exist, the atheists are probably more likely to go to Heaven than the theists.
I must agree with you, Atheists often tend to be.. nicer.
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I must agree with you, Atheists often tend to be.. nicer.
While that is often true, that isn't the way I came to my conclusion.
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I must agree with you, Atheists often tend to be.. nicer.
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That's stereotypical of you.
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While that is often true, that isn't the way I came to my conclusion.
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And how did you?
well im christian and i don't believe in hell as being an internal place of fiery and torment. as in my faith when you die you are "a sleep" awaiting resurrection.
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And how did you?
Okay, first we assume that God and Heaven exist, and that God is omnipotent and very intelligent. It makes sense that an omnipotent God would be intelligent, or at least, if he wasn't, then Heaven probably wouldn't exist. If God is omnipotent and intelligent enough to know what he's doing, then whatever the current situation is here in our universe is only the case because he has decided to let it be that way. I have considered the evidence, and in the most logical manner I can I have come to the conclusion that it does not support God existing. Since the state of this evidence is a result of God's decisions, God must have decided to make it appear unlikely that he exists.
This means that the people on Earth are divided up into two categories: Atheists like me, whose beliefs are in accordance with the evidence God has given us, and religious people, whose beliefs are not in accordance with the evidence God has given us. To put it simply, in a sense atheists agree with God and religious people don't. It makes sense that, if anyone goes to Heaven, it would be more likely for those who agree with God to go to Heaven. Therefore atheists are more likely to go to Heaven than religious people.
I've always thought that God would be above (far far far above) any of the petty emotions that are felt by humans. Especially over what we think is "right" and "wrong." If we really are his (it's?) children, then I can understand being very forgiving of the children despite anything they do wrong. I don't resent my son at all if disagrees with me or if he does something wrong, especially if he knew it was wrong. I just take the actions necessary and continue giving what he needs. One could only hope God would do the same for us, no matter what we believe. ;p
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I've always thought that God would be above (far far far above) any of the petty emotions that are felt by humans. Especially over what we think is "right" and "wrong."
It makes sense that God would be much more intelligent than we are and as such would feel things in a much different way. However, that doesn't mean he would be illogical or would not believe in morality. As beings get more intelligent, they become different, but they only improve; they don't suddenly turn around and start doing something primitive and irrational. To put it another way, God may understand more than we do, but if we are logical then he would not understand things
differently from how we do. No logical system can invalidate something that remains true in one if its subsystems.
As such, my reasoning is still valid.
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It makes sense that God would be much more intelligent than we are and as such would feel things in a much different way. However, that doesn't mean he would be illogical or would not believe in morality. As beings get more intelligent, they become different, but they only improve; they don't suddenly turn around and start doing something primitive and irrational. To put it another way, God may understand more than we do, but if we are logical then he would not understand things differently from how we do. No logical system can invalidate something that remains true in one if its subsystems.
As such, my reasoning is still valid.
However, he designed reasoning and logic to begin with, so he would be on a level that is impossible for us to comprehend.
Meh, life's taken a turn for the better at the moment. We'll have to run with it and see how it turns out. Life's usually good in some degree, and people like to keep good things.