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Yeah, they probably showed 2 pictures of the moon landing. One of them before, where the astronaut saluted, and the one after where he left. The flag was still in the same state.

What the professionals believe is the most likely to be true. There are facts that disprove the conspiracy theories. Even though there are, it is still an interesting subject for research.

And I'm saying, this is not necessarily true. There's a first time for everything, and landing on the Moon is no exception. What if the first time just plain wasn't the 1969-1972 landings but will instead be the next Moon landings around 2020? There's nothing saying this is necessarily impossible.

Generally, yes. Of course, what the professionals say they believe is another thing altogether. Although the two probably go together with the Moon landings, there are numerous other areas where there is some amount of discrepancy.

I have no idea what you are typing about. I never said it's impossible. And it did happen around 1969 and thats the fact.

I'm not denying that they did land on the Moon in 1969. But what you seemed to be claiming was that the fact that we can do it now is automatically proof in itself that we could have done it then.

If lunar regolith is not sentient, then how do you explain you? This is assuming you're sentient of course.

I never claimed it was automatic. I just stated there had to be a start somewhere. Are you saying that we just took a risk in the 21st century or started landing in the Moon from the 14th Century? No.

ok no slap fights guys

well i read everything here, the wikipedia page by itself disproves all of the opposing opinions.

Man landed on the moon, its a fact.

by the way: you guys are getting confused. The landing didn't take place 50 years ago , it took place 38 years ago . thats a 12 year difference, a lot of things can happen in 12 years

Well, you seemed to be saying that for some reason the missions in 2020+ by definition can't be that start, which doesn't make sense.

I'm aware of that, but it doesn't really matter for the purposes of either of our arguments.

Now you're blabbering. The start of the moon landing was 38* years ago. Clearly, you're in your own world due to the fact that you're are clearly saying that the moon landing is by 2020+.

No, I think you just don't understand me. I believe that the first Moon landing was indeed 38 years ago. However, what I don't believe, and am trying to disprove, is that the fact that we are about to go to the Moon does not show in itself that we could have done it 38 years ago, which from what I could tell was what your statement amounted to.

Oh? Then how can you explain it or prove it?
It's like saying the founding fathers of America didnt write the declartion of Independence, win the revolutionary war and we now have America today.

lol, CheatEnabled... It's funny that you are posting that link saying that it is something in support of your views on the matter, when it is completely the opposite. Though they are conspiracy theorists (or so they say ), they are trying to prove in there that the Moon landing actually did take place. Quoting from the third paragraph on that page:



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Hmm, I guess someone else here already pointed that out. Heh, oh well... although... I did post a bit more of the context on it.

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Haha, they are, however, adding in some of their own (although unrelated) conspiracies. None of them having to do with whether they landed on the Moon or not, but having to do with what was actually there.

Okay, I'll try to put it simply.

We know that humans have not been able to fly to the Moon forever. Therefore, there has to have been a start, a place where we went from not being able to do it to being able to do it. No matter where in time this start is, for the first 37 years after it, humans were not capable of flying to the Moon 38 years before that. So there is a possible time during which your statement is false.

Not really. What you said is more like saying that the fact the United States exists means it has to have existed for 231 years.

Lol are you F**cking kidding me? That is exactly what I said, all you did was change some words and extend some words. Try again

Haha, just stop arguing over the same point...

There is already enough evidence anyway that these people who bring up these things and say that the moon landing was a hoax do not know really know what they are talking about and do not research things nearly enough. Multiple people have, often without needing much research, disproved the claims of the people supporting these moon landing hoax theories.

What you said where? What I'm disproving is that initial incorrect statement, where you seemed to be saying that the fact we can do it now shows we could do it 38 years ago.

I have to go with green_meklar here, most of the pictures I've seen in that website are off.

The astronauts moved the flag, making to move independently without wind... and weak 'wind' can actually make the flag using gravity makes the flag go down and the moon has no gravity and it's moving through space itself.

As for the 'no stars' on the background, it's probably due to the fact that the camera wasn't strong enough to capture the background because those stars is really far and compared to the quallity of the camera. And if the camera burned, so would've their spaceship and suits but they were prepared.

In fact, telescopes can see the flag clearly... this site surely contradicts a lot so I don't understand. They can't possibly edit old film pictures with a 1960 photoshop, that's impossible.

What site is it you are talking about? The one in the initial post? If so, it has already been stated in this topic twice that they at that site are absolutely NOT in support of the idea that even one of the moon landings was a hoax. The purpose of that site is to debunk every single one of the points people talk about when they say the moon landings were faked.

hey...did the wiki say something about the moon buggy...cause long time ago my friend told me it was impossible to take the moon buggy to the moon cause it was too large even if it was assembled on the moon...

Hmm, I don't remember which site it was on, but it was addressed either on the wiki or on the site that CheatEnabled posted. The buggy was collapsable/foldable or something like that.

I might've used the wrong term, I really mean't "Low Gravity".

Didn't NASA practice a lot, or even sent a man outer space before the arrival at the moon? Ever head of, Practice makes Perfect?

Explain better then..

Actually, I've heard that the Moon buggy was designed to be very light (like most of what gets sent into space) and to fold up small so it wouldn't take up much room in the lander.

The Moon's surface gravity is about 1.63 m/s^2, if I recall correctly. Much different from zero gravity in terms of effects on a flag.

I already explained it about as clearly as I possibly could: