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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-09-13 at 23:57:50

QUOTE(KiLLeR2001 @ Sep 13 2004, 11:37 PM)

http://www.icy-hell.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

ATTACK AT WAYPOINT!!!
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QUOTE(ShadowSnipe4 @ Sep 13 2004, 11:40 PM)

All forces to the front lines, continue with assaults, we will win this war under the leadership of yoshi and his generals, CHARGE!!!
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QUOTE(Zombie @ Sep 13 2004, 11:53 PM)

IM DOING THE WORK FOLLOW ME SOLDIERS LETS SPAM THERE ASSES OUT!

Yoshi u saved my map! ur so cool i would do almost any thing for u!
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Comeon guys, leave this stuff off this website

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-09-14 at 00:02:02

You really should get a real © for SEN. As I said, you could use copyright infringement against them, not to mention the fact that all the map makers who undoubtedly protest Icy-

's posting of their maps without direct consent would support you on this one.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-09-14 at 00:02:06

I'm going to have to delete threats here... sorry.

By the way, their server is going up and down like a toilet seat. Is anyone from here causing that?

The internet has copyrights automaticly without registering. Blizzard takes away some rights I have over maps, but others I still have. I'm contacting their host...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowSnipe4 on 2004-09-14 at 00:08:16

QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Sep 13 2004, 11:02 PM)

I'm going to have to delete threats here... sorry.

By the way, their server is going up and down like a toilet seat. Is anyone from here causing that?

The internet has copyrights automaticly without registering. Blizzard takes away some rights I have over maps, but others I still have. I'm contacting their host...
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Good, and Zombie, I have joined your legion of spammers (you) and have started to wage war. Sorry Yoshi if you consider that a threat..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2004-09-14 at 00:08:57

i swear yoshi i had nothing to do with it.... *hmmm hmm*

*wistoles*
*walks away slowly*

hopfully they learned there lesson though. copy right is a big thing.. trust me i know from a very cool guy

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-09-14 at 00:10:08

I've started, too.

Oh and I see you liked my suggestion, Yoshi. See, I'm not a complete idiot all the time (not that anyone said that or anything...unless you guys talk behind my back and all...)

BTW, "meep."

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-09-14 at 00:11:20

I didn't actually do anything. I told you the truth, and that was it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-09-14 at 00:11:34

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I'm going to have to delete threats here... sorry.

Yea I agree. We can do this tthe legal prosecution way and have thier ISP whatever ban them or we can hack them; I prefer legal way.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-09-14 at 00:12:21

I'm not telling you guys to spam or hack. Infact, I discourage it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-09-14 at 00:15:12

Aww Meep got suspended. I liked him.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-09-14 at 00:17:29

Theres other communities now involved in this.

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54 user(s) active in the past 15 minutes

hes about to beat our highest user count. lol!

EDIT: Just went to 60. His server can't take it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-09-14 at 00:46:57

Hmm we could always mess with his bandwidth as well...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2004-09-14 at 00:52:25

Exactly what I was thinking. Just find the biggest file on his site and download it ten times. If everybody did that... It's a lot more subtle and will have a longer-term effect than spamming his forums (he can just delete that stuff anyway). But seriously, do we really want to sink to that level of childishness? He knows what we can do to him, let's see if he changes his ways. The spam potential of the community should act as a deterrent, and should never be used in excess, in my opinion.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2004-09-14 at 01:09:24

QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Sep 13 2004, 10:35 PM)

I never thought I had this much loyality. Thanks everyone

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QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Sep 13 2004, 10:57 PM)

Comeon guys, leave this stuff off this website

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QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Sep 13 2004, 11:12 PM)

I'm not telling you guys to spam or hack. Infact, I discourage it.
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It was kinda ovious that this would happen Yoshi. If you say "attack" they will, and oviously there will be revenge acts against sen. I know your discurrageing it but posting about the issue in such a manor "your maps are being stolen", and "wonderful content stealing website" is indirectly asking for it.

I personaly feel that this thread should be removed and you should strongly incourage members not to attack / spam there site. I feel like sen is taking the roll of the big boy and using our numbers to get what we want in a negitive way.

The debate about what to do could go on all day and gets way to political for my taiste. Besides the whole issue of "I submitted it" its kinda weird to me. I don't understand why for content such as SC maps the person who uploads the map gets there name waved around more than the person who made it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-09-14 at 01:10:01

We are the victims the right thing to do is not to sink to his level. Though it is unfortunate that most of our maps are being "borrowed" to his site, the fact is we can't do much about it. There is no such thing as "copyrighting" a map because the game is Blizzards and we are just modifying some values. They are childish, but we should be more civilized.

PS. They are jerks.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-09-14 at 01:23:03

True we can't copyright maps, but it is still morally wrong to take the maps from here and submit them to Icy-Hell after all the hard work all of us map makers put into these maps. They should just have the map makers submit them like we do here, and atleast have an option to show the actual creator's name (like we do here). Instead all I see is a bunch of "Submitted by"'s that have no relation to the actual mapmakers or maps in question.

The simple remedy on their part is to just take down all the maps submitted by people other than the makers themselves. We can stop attacking because in the long run spamming has never done any damage to anything.

Thank you, IRC channel:
Devlin: In the end, they do have somewhat of a right to upload these maps. We spread them on SC and in the end have no idea who gets them.
Devlin: If they like them, they can upload them.
Devlin: I just have a problem with their lack of credit to the map makers.
Bolt_Head: thats what i said orinially
Bolt_Head: but yoshi is concerned about crediting the people who submitted the map
Devlin: True, I acted stupidly. I'm just goin' with the fad at this point.
Devlin: Yeah.
Bolt_Head: what about the host of the person who gave the map to the submitter?
Bolt_Head: or the person who gave it to them?
Bolt_Head: isn't the true submitter the creator?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2004-09-14 at 01:36:56

this is totally sad and unacceptable.
We shall protest in a governised manner >.<

You don't just steal something off another! This reminds me of map stealing!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-09-14 at 01:45:59

But if you think about it, they do have the right to post our maps. Its just another way of advertising them and spreading them even further. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to join their side or anything. It's just that when looking at it in a general manner, our maps are spread everytime they are created in a new game - therefore anyone could post our maps on their site without us knowing about it. And the fact that a person's name is shown by the "Submitted By" frame just shows that due to the limits of the PHP script they use, their names show when they submit it rather than the actual map's creator. There are maps on SEN that were submitted by people that didn't make them, yet their names are show by "Submitted By." I don't see you complaining about that...

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And aside from promoting our maps, they aren't really stealing much else. SEN uses IPB just like them. Niether can say the other stole their site when both sites run off of the creation of someone who has no affiliation with either party.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2004-09-14 at 02:03:46

Here is what i just posted there -

QUOTE(Screwed @ icyHell)

I agree.. it took u 10 hours to steal maps off staredit network without giving them credit!

And please, stop saying like you know everything.. it is fully illegal and you could be sued. This is really bugging me. By spending 10 hours, i want you to respect the months and years people have spent on those maps and take your time by asking for permission of those submitters to allow you to post it. By even posting this topic, the least u could do is mentioning those maps are taken off Staredit network (SEN) and u, urself clearly know you have done it.

I don't like you, (The best way i can say it).

This reminds me of people using 6-10 hours hexing thru a map to steal the map and then release it to the public and say they did a good job of it.

I will publically announce here, 90+% of the maps he sumbits is ILLEGALLY taken off SEN and i believe none of them has been asked for permission, people have submitted their files to SEN which gives SEN the right to host it and not here. You need permission from the map creators. If you don't change it, what is worse than knowing your administrator is a lazy, uncivilised, crime-committing, unrespectful person?

In addition, please leave this post here to tell your members what a 'person' you are. Leave this post alone, i am finding justice. Whoever reads this post will know what you have done and messing with this post will just damage your reputation more. The best solution is to do what i have suggested.

Thank you for taking your precious time in reading my long-winded post.

Post Script-

here this is a Quote taken off Deathknight at Staredit Netowork -

QUOTE(Deathknight)

By law, copyright exists from the time of creation of "an original work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium of expression." Today there is no need to put a copyright notice to have a copyright. Registration is not required to bring an action for infringement, but if the copyright was registered prior to the infringement, certain statutory damages are available which are not available if the copyright is not registered. It is a matter of good practice to place a copyright notice which includes the copyright holder and year of creation (e.g Copyright, JHU, 2001). Changing items, which include some new work and some work created in prior years can include the multiple years (Copyright, JHU, 2000, 2002).

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-09-14 at 06:07:28

QUOTE(DevliN @ Sep 14 2004, 12:45 AM)

they didnt just upload the maps, the took every detail about the map that was posted on SEN and put in their site....

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-09-14 at 07:22:07

QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Sep 14 2004, 01:09 AM)

At no point did I actually say to spam. Most of those people aren't from SEN - they're from other map making and starcraft communities that support us.

Anyways, this is a matter of the principal. I actually don't really care they have my stuff (you'll notice that all the files have under 5 downloads), but lately, theres been a distirbingly high number of communities that are just taking stuff what isn't theirs. I'm tired of it. An example must be made. I warned them, and we even generated a 5 page topic. You remember bolt, I said I'd post it here.

Well, I can't seem to get on his site anymore.

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Date: Tuesday 14th of September 2004 04:18:38 AM

His website just can't take it.

UPDATE: Ahh, I got in.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kusion on 2004-09-14 at 08:34:47

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thx to me?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2004-09-14 at 08:42:49

Nvm I just been to the Website. I just saw an few maps I know that were stolen! Like "Kill me" That was an Funny ass movie! God if you know how to upload virus or worn then upload it to the :censored:EN DAMN WEBSITE!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowSnipe4 on 2004-09-14 at 09:09:08

I just got banned so I'll stop spamming, but it is wrong that they were leeching off SEN, and that was so annoying how his reply was that he was "think of it as mirroring" its unbelievable how annoying he is. But i do see the point of the other agument, we really cant complain if the maps were downloaded off battlenet but they weren't they were wrongfully taken off SEN.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-09-14 at 18:26:50

QUOTE(Kow @ Sep 14 2004, 05:07 AM)

they didnt just upload the maps, the took every detail about the map that was posted on SEN and put in their site....
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Ah didn't know that, and was never able to check on that because I'm banned and can't logout.

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