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He wasn't a politician when he came back from Vietnam and protested against it in front of Congress. Footage taken proves this. You make yourself look like an idiot, don't try to argue tis point with me.

He only used his Vietnam experience to prove that he knows war better than our president (who, as you all remember, ran from it). How would you know they were self-inflicted? Everyone on that swiftboat said he was an honorable man and vollunteered to go speak for him. So unless you were there and saw him shoot himself, then you have no idea what you're talking about.

More people voted for Gore in 2000, yet Bush still won. So how is it that simple?

He can't run for president again, we have laws against it.

Without him being a president, we can't answer that. The point is that we have to give him a chance in order to see what good he can do.

People care about the deaths because they feel that the war is useless and these people are dying for no reason.

Despite him being unlinked at all to 9/11 and Al Queda. Can we say, "finishing daddy's war?"

GJ CheeZe(U) and devliN you said exactly what i was trying to say nice to know there is some smart pplz still out there

Bush is a douche and a moron. The reason he won is because people are retards and haven't realized that. Fahrenheit 911 does an excellent job pointing this out. There is loads of evidence to support the fact that the war in Iraq was unjust. There are only a few thousand troops fighting terrorists. After 9/11, the Bin Laden family was taken out of the USA via private jet without any interrogation or questioning. The last time I heard, the deficit was 50 billion dollars. Now Bush is asking for even more money. At this rate, America will go bankrupt. Bush won the first time for two reasons: 1. If Nadir didn't get that 1% or 2% in key states, they would've gone to Al Gore. Bush senior 'persuaded' the judges in Florida to vote that Florida goes to Bush. The electoral college is stupid. It is about where your supporters are and how spaced out rather than how many. I don't get why each state has points eaqual to the amount of senators It should be changed back to popular vote. The war in Iraq was used by Bush to finish what his dad started. For all we know, they could have secretly executed Saddam. America might even be ruined permanently because of bush, that douche.

How could you possibly believe ANY of that propaganda and lies that is Fahrenhiert 911?? Michael moore is a fat slob who's only in it for the money.

You people who claim that America will be destroyed are complete morons. Haven't you ever read a history textbook? The losers claim that EVERY single election. It's ing hilarious how stupid you can be. Then to further the idiocy, we have foreigners like Kaboom and MindArchon who don't even understand how the United States government works. Kaboom for example thinks that the Bush won because he won more states, but a huge number of people voted for him in the highly populated states. Well that's just idiocy, there's a little thing called the electoral college.

Also, the reason we still have this electoral college and don't go on the popular vote is because of FRAUD.. Fraud is very possible and realistic, states would be able to cheat and throw the election.

To claim that the regions who voted for Bush are stupid... well that's an unfair stereotype. The same could be said about the regions who voted for Kerry, a bunch of poor loses who are too lazy to get a job? Those people vote for Kerry and suddenly he must automatically be better? Where is the logic there? More people voted for Bush, hands down. To claim that the people who voted for him are idiots is lunacy, Bush won fair and square for the first time in his life, now accept it and wait for 4 more years.

AND AS FOR KERRY RUNNING AGAIN... That dumb who posted that is really .. dumb. Kerry was a INCREDIBLY bad candidate. That's why he lost, he SUCKED... If the Democrats put him up again their party would basically be gone. They need a good candidate next time around to have any chance, I suggest a woman who is pro-life (against abortion).

Lies? Everything in that can be backed up with factual resources. He had real soldiers in there talking about their experiences. Were those lies? What about the mother of the dead son, was she lying? Sure it was propaganda, but everything is propaganda. Everytime someone tries to persuade you to do something, that is propaganda.

Of course he was in it for the money [/sarcasm], and that is why he only got a small percent of the total gross. Disney got a huge amount of the profit on it, so to say Michael Moore was in it for the money - because y'know all documentarians are dying to be rich - is like saying that Bush only invaded Iraq due to terrorism.

And if you're still thinking that you're right and I'm wrong, prove it. And don't send me a link to some hardcore conservative's site that says Fahrenheit 9/11 was the devil's propaganda. I'd end up just laughing at you...a lot...

SaLa: Kerry says he may run again in the primaries next election, but he'd go up against Hillary Clinton. No democratic woman is pro-life, and no candidate would openly admit it if they were. And you can cheat either way you look at it. The electoral college relies on the popular vote of the states. So as long as it does, "the popular vote" can still have its "FRAUD."

Kerry has done good he went into the Vietnam War!




Are u ing insane!!!Ok ill admit Kerry wasnt the best choce for Democrats but, really, do you want some one who invaded a country for no reason and then wont admit it was a mistake!!Sure Saddam was a bad person and all but, we had no purpose in being their. Not to mention how Bush ran from war when he was younger.

Secondly, did u hear speak! He said that we won now get out of our way. So basically he's saying that now that we won we can do whatever the hell we want!


Kinda ironic that Clinton gets impeached for a blow job while Bush doesn't despite the fact that he broke international and constitutional law. Oh how silly our government is.

Bush won because hes better than Kerry, and because over 1/2 of America liked him better, and because he got over 270 Electoral votes while kerry only got about 142? if you looked at the map, kerry got much less than about 20 states, George W. Bush got the rest of them....

i know that dip im talking about WHY would any one vote for that ing idiot!
Hes cutting taxes for all upper class people but us middle or lower class people will be screwD!!

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He brought out the truth on how bad a person Bush really is.

Way to steal my line...

Neo, Kerry got 254 votes. He wasn't that far behind at all. It all relied on Ohio. And most of those states that Bush got had a small amount of people in it. California alone has the 6th largest economy in the world and could be its own nation. Point being that California alone got him 1/5 of all his electoral votes. Then New York was huge and so was all of New England. Even though Bush got more states, Kerry got more highly populated states.

So Kerry won California and New York! Tell me how many moronic states that are populated with red necks did bush win?? 2 big states do not win an election!

ALSO its n2o N TWO O NOT n3o im not a new simpsons im n2o- LOL

*reminisces of the time Bush landed on that aircraft carrier (in uniform, no less) with the huge banner that says "Mission Accomplished"*

Months ago, wasnt it?

my bad, last i saw he was at like 232 or something, they announced he won at my school i didnt kno the last electoral count

Funny how he lost thousand of lives isnt it! AND ITS MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!! 1000 lives may seen little but imagine having ONE of them being someone you love.

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Exactly

yes, months ago when saddam was taken out of power, what were we supposed to do? leave Iraq in complete anarchy? it was america's responsibility to rebuild Iraq and its government, only that part of the mission was accomplished, this isnt a war against Iraq, this was a war on terror, and saddam was the biggest terror of the middle east, killing his own people because of their religion, let me use this as an example

islam has 3 major branches, 1 is 98% (saddams) the other has monks (not relevant) and the 3rd has the 2d most amount, but the majority of Iraq was the one with the 2nd most amount, and he was a minority, same basic religion, but because he was a minority he killed them, making him a terror to his country

I havent seen Iraq getting any better have you?? Infact the Iraqi and American death tolls are going up! Did you see any wepons of mass destruction? What Bush needs to do is formally say that attacking Iraq was mistake. He attacked for the wrong reasons. How is it our responsibility AND only OURS??

Yes ok we can help out but did we really have to put lives in jepordy. This reminds me of aparteid how we never even payed attention to it. It was horrible. It finally ended around 1990. We didnt start a big war over it. But finally Nelson Mandella and apartied lost power over it.

How is the US supposed to fight terror? The same way poverty and famine is fought?



Im pretty sure this has already been acknowledged, having occured around the early 1990s and before. Quite nice too, seeing as how the US had the oppurtunity to stop him THEN, but instead actually providing Saddam with weapons to attack certain groups living within Iraq.

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Poloticains are liers they tell no truths its a preoven fact thats why all ogverment sucks.

Damnit, Bush shouldn't have won! DAMNIT! The only good part to this is that I get to help vote for the new president after Bush.

BUT THANK GOD THAT I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

GO CALI!

I wanted and was glad that Bush Won for many reasons:

1) I'd prefer a Monkey Looking Man to run as president over a man whose head looks like a l)ick
2) I like Bush personality wise alot better than Kerry. Maybe not his policies but definately character.
3) Bush is Republican, Kerry is Democratic. Democrats are going to totally change our values in America. They will promote stuff like Gay Marriage.
4) I preferred a man who always sticks and follows one idea and path over one who changes and contradicts himself.
5) Bush is Texan, just like me.
6) You'll never know what our country will end up like with Kerry. He might deteriorate our country more than what Bush did.
7) I knew Bush would win so i wanted him to win.
8) Kerry's Daughter looks ugly but Bush's Daughters are damn hot

i agree with reasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, and especially 8 (not 5 only for the reason is because my cousin is born in texas and i hate her (not any offense to texas but to her) *shakes fist at cousin* and i like bush better than kerry, hes willing to protect america

Do you call 1000 american deaths all for NOTHING protecting america??WELL,,,DO YOU??

no i call 1000 american deaths serving their country and doing an honorable thing by rebuilding Iraq....no death in the army is for nothing

Your number one reason is retarded. I would rather have the crappiest looking guy running for president so long as he can do a great job.

Your number two reason sucks because politics is almost all that matters in government. If your character is awesome but you can't tell the difference between 1 and 2, then you don't deserve to be president.

Your number three sucks because Gay Marriage is a perfectly legal thing. Going against it because of your religion is going against other peoples religion. This is just the start of "There should be limits to our freedom". I don't see how you would care anyway.

Your number four sucks because no matter how much I ask for it, you people fail to give me sufficient evidence that Kerry was a flip flopper. Bush, however, changed his reasons for war so many times, I lost count on 3.

Your number five sucks because it's completely retarded. Thats no reason to choose someone. Thats like saying, oh yea, he's french, he must be retarded.

Your number six sucks because you have no idea what you're talking about. You even said you don't know where it will go. Seeing how you won't even give him a chance, then I would assume you know the future. Go to the "Is time travel possible" thread and tell everyone that going forward in time is possible. Else, go suck .

Your number seven sucks because it just sucks. Knowing someone will win is no reason to go for him. I wanted to Nadar win. I knew he would lose. So what?

Your number eight sucks because now you're challenging nature. People that are born with "better" faces doesn't make them better. In fact, it usually makes them stupider since they will rely heavily on their good looks to do things in life.

Conclusion: your logic sucks, shut the up until you know what you're talking about.




yea... about that. I thought Bush was fighting terrorism. Now he's building Iraq. Just a few months before, he was looking for WMDs. Damn, talk about Flip Flopping.