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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)3 on 2005-08-24 at 01:00:04
So this would make DK & Co. responsible for.....how many patches?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-24 at 01:10:17

3 or 4 i would think.
DK&CO.
I like it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)3 on 2005-08-24 at 01:11:46
I can imagine Wanted posters of DK in the Blizzard cubicles.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Heimdal on 2005-08-24 at 01:21:36
I think they probably appreciate DK bringing this kind of thing to their attention rather than using it to his own ends (stealing CD keys, virii, etc). After EAS/ESS were discovered, DK made the decision that we should alert Blizzard, and I emailed them about it. Whether or not they knew about it before my email, I don't know - they never responded, of course.

This is what DK said about ESS:
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I think Blizzard should patch it too, and maybe some other things that could be used for potential malicious exploits.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)3 on 2005-08-24 at 02:07:31
Nonetheless, the imagery is still rather hilarious.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-24 at 02:41:06
QUOTE(m.r.bob @ Aug 23 2005, 09:53 PM)
And the above scenario is why Yoshi should stop being a coward, go against blizzard's wishes and put the EUD enabler back online.
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I will ignore your insult, because you are obviously misinformed.

Okay, I'll level with you. Think of yourself in my position. I have to make decisions which may impact majority of the map making community. I have to look at the pros and cons and decide what is good and what is bad. Sometimes I wish I didn't have to do things like this.

You're blindly going towards the 'defy blizzard and support EUDs' side without even considering the other side. Maps can transfer viruses like this. You will have no way of knowing if a map is a virus until it's too late. The second individuals start exploiting something like that, everyone will be like you: "too hardcore with EUDs" and totally disregard any warnings given from anyone.

It was one of the hardest things I had to do. It's not like I WANT to ruin your fun or something. I would love to see ingame modding and such things, but there are too many ignorant people who would do what you're doing, and blindly ignore the fact that it could be dangerous.

It's also like emails. You don't open attachments from people you don't know, and sometimes attachments from your friends can be dangerous too (but you don't see results right away).



By the way, coward means: "One who shows ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain."
Yes. I'm absolutely sorry I'm attempting to save your computer from possible harm. How inconsiderate of me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-08-24 at 02:51:51
QUOTE(Deathknight @ Aug 23 2005, 05:32 PM)
The 1.13 series has really done a lot.

No more character crash.
No more build anywhere.
No more muta morph.
No more security holes in maps.
No more floating drone hack.
No more zerg stack.

I love it. Everyone else doesn't.
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I've hated 1.13 since 1.13a...

It killed MEMGraft and SI is being a total censored.gif about it and refuses to update.

Not that the 1.13 fixes weren't significant.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2005-08-24 at 04:00:14
we screwed sc up badly with all the hacks and other stuff, blizzard tries to fix it for the people on starcraft that play for the sake of having fun and not hacking, yet blizzard creates their own bugs with their own patchs, sad isnt it..and really its our fualt to begin with.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-08-24 at 08:36:36
QUOTE(Darth-Reven @ Aug 24 2005, 04:00 AM)
we screwed sc up badly with all the hacks and other stuff, blizzard tries to fix it for the people on starcraft that play for the sake of having fun and not hacking, yet blizzard creates their own bugs with their own patchs, sad isnt it..and really its our fualt to begin with.
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Who's "we"? Got a cat by your side?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Heimdal on 2005-08-24 at 09:19:01
I totally support Yoshi's decision to remove EUDEnabler from the site. I am not currently working on another version, but I am working on something even better. I am sure that Yoshi will support it if I can show him that it is perfectly safe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2005-08-24 at 11:02:50
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Aug 24 2005, 01:51 AM)
I've hated 1.13 since 1.13a...

It killed MEMGraft and SI is being a total censored.gif about it and refuses to update.

Not that the 1.13 fixes weren't significant.

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ya, if I had made 1.13 1.13b may have killed it, 1.13c definately would have, and 1.13d which is coming (no surprise) probably would kill it again. I already spend alot of my free time on scmdraft, be glad I do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-24 at 11:06:04
About the replay thing.. i remember watching the replay of a melee game with a lot of units (about 200 scv each, gathering stuff) and the replay didnt show the same unit orders at all.. it was pretty weird.. i think its about that...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-24 at 12:14:06
QUOTE(devilesk @ Aug 23 2005, 09:53 PM)
So ignorant, such a fool.

Rofl I like the "I'm anti-DK"

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Umm, that doesn't anwser my question... I might be getting you confused with someone else who was flaming DK or something... But basically you havn't anwsered why you hope Heim doesn't make a safe verson. But it's a moot point now that he's said he's replacing it with something better.

QUOTE(SI @ Aug 24 2005, 10:02 AM)
ya, if I had made 1.13 1.13b may have killed it, 1.13c definately would have, and 1.13d which is coming (no surprise) probably would kill it again. I already spend alot of my free time on scmdraft, be glad I do that.[right][snapback]297210[/snapback][/right]
Good point. I just noticed that the new SCMdraft came out, and in retrospect I'm glad you've been spending time on that instead of on memgraft.

And Yoshi, I retracted my comment and changed positions a few posts later you know... But that was a good post anyway I guess.

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This shows Yoshi cares about us. I feel so loved wub.gif

^ The reason I retracted my position and such ^
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Night on 2005-08-24 at 13:38:34
QUOTE(MrrLL @ Aug 22 2005, 05:08 PM)
- Fixed a bug related to minimap unit ordering during replays. (No idea on what this does)[right][snapback]295578[/snapback][/right]

Actually, that means when you order a unit to move somewheres using the minimap (clicking in the minimap), the replay would mess up and not order that unit properly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-24 at 15:17:00
QUOTE(m.r.bob @ Aug 24 2005, 12:14 PM)
Umm, that doesn't anwser my question... I might be getting you confused with someone else who was flaming DK or something... But basically you havn't anwsered why you hope Heim doesn't make a safe verson. But it's a moot point now that he's said he's replacing it with something better.
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I totally support Yoshi's decision to remove EUDEnabler from the site. I am not currently working on another version, but I am working on something even better. I am sure that Yoshi will support it if I can show him that it is perfectly safe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-08-24 at 19:13:35
QUOTE(SI @ Aug 24 2005, 08:02 AM)
ya, if I had made 1.13 1.13b may have killed it, 1.13c definately would have, and 1.13d which is coming (no surprise) probably would kill it again. I already spend alot of my free time on scmdraft, be glad I do that.
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I can live with Starforge. I seriously would rather see a MemGraft 1.13d (when 1.13d comes out) than a SCMD 0.7.0
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2005-08-24 at 19:24:14
Yes so would I but thats in a modders point of view since most modders dont use scmdraft 2 much except for making campaigns and use memgraft alot more...

but in order to make a good judgement you must look at it in the mapmakers point of view as well since they have no use for memgraft but need scmdraft 2 to make maps just like we use memgraft to make mods.

ADDITION: If you make Scmdraft 2 and not memgraft then the modding comunity will have problems but if you make memgraft and not scmdraft 2 then the mapmakers will have problems so either way its a lose-lose situation unless someone else makes memgraft
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-08-24 at 19:26:20
You don't need SCMD to makedecent maps.

You do need MEMGraft to make decent mods.

Case closed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-24 at 19:31:21
You don't need SCMDraft to play starcraft, you don't need memgraft to play starcraft.

Case closed, both programs suck smile.gif


The real point is, stop arguing about it, THX.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2005-08-24 at 19:34:08
Yeah and you dont need staredit to play starcraft either all you need to do is play the blizzard maps repeatedly untill you get bored of starcraft and move on tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dundahead on 2005-08-24 at 20:29:13
Why did they take out infested terrans?
I mean not like i used them or anything but still....
confused.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-24 at 20:33:46
QUOTE(TERRAINFIGHTER @ Aug 24 2005, 07:34 PM)
Yeah and you dont need staredit to play starcraft either all you need to do is play the blizzard maps repeatedly untill you get bored of starcraft and move on tongue.gif
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More like all you need to do is play MELEE.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-08-24 at 22:10:21
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Why did they take out infested terrans?
I mean not like i used them or anything but still....

They didn't purposefully take it out, it was a side effect of fixing one of the bugs the way they did.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xszerg on 2005-08-25 at 02:47:54
Well all i can really wonder is how long to get the next patch out awsome that IT werent taken out I thought they were i was like damn cause i was gonna try using all units and i still suck so ... practice it seems is what i want to know OoO Hilary Duff look so hot. oh and yea that one buildin was awsome. But like if triggers are wont let IT's spawn my map I have in my mind to never create is screwed. I mean mother frickin gosh. F'ck this g'd d'mn bullsh*t. Well ima out.



All my maps
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Lead_Factor on 2005-08-25 at 18:32:11
i think u can spawn them using triggers...i was playing uberena and some one used there hero to get ITs...
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