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Pekkel said he would join my team for the tourney, so I'll send my mins now.

Didn't many Americans support war in Iraq ? I understand that doesen't make them guilty of it, but it "represents" and tells the terrorists that the people are guilty. Those people who died, were just puppets of a big game. And only the puppet master is guilty.

9/11 happened because of two things, I think.
1) The security services were relaxed, and were not ready.
2) Bad luck, as any tragedy. They intercepted the call of a terrorist, that could help them avoid it, but they ignored it.

I'm one of those Americans that support the war in Iraq.

9/11 wasn't caused by terroist in my opinion. There are thousands and thousands of people in NY and do you think none of them called the Military or something if they saw a big boeing 747 going straight for the pentagon?

Kashmir, those politicians can't represent all of us, since not everybody voted for those politicians. Think about it, those people died because of those politicians' actions. Is that fair in any way?

You're putting words in my mouth.

Allso don't forget that the allready elected politicians are different from the ones that they are while the voting is in progress. They lie about their "Future programms" many times.

I think it's fine if it's legal. I'm not uptight about the taking of the life form that it is, I'm nor disturbed by the fact that it's a human being. To me, it's just another life form with monetary worth. There's billions upon billions of human beings in this world, to take one away or even a thousand beings that aren't developed yet, has no significant impact on my way of thinking. I simply have no feelings for something of the sort. If I personally wanted the baby that was in line for abortion, then I would care.

Does that change the fact that people who weren't a part of those politicians agendas died?

I think its gonna become 3 per team now :/

Actually it made your point stronger. I said "allso".

1) Not everybody voted for the current politicians
2) Not everybody who voted knew what would the politicians become after being elected

I don't exactly believe in a supremebeing, but I don't excuse the possiblity either. Why? Because there have been things in life that have convinced me that science as we know isn't all. And though I believe that spiritualism may both be true and false, over the years, I'm convinced it's true, but I still keep the fact that it may be false in mind.

I have to stand up for religious people for a bit, though.

When religious people pray and such, it's not like they're asking for an answer, but actually for a feeling to see if it's the right thing (for them) to do. It's not like god (of any kind(s)) is going to leave a sign on the refrigerator note saying "Yeah, start up that business," but more of a feeling you get; an intuition.

Many don't even know what they believe, however. Some were born into the religion, some found (or refound) the religion on their own. Those who sought their own generally understand the belief better. Those who grew up with it and, though, think they've been doing everything just fine, when their belief somewhere strayed from their religion itself. That could be due to the cause of anything: parenting, peers, trauma, ect.

So for what you believe (even if what you believe is that there is no god of any kind), just keep an open mind, yet hold your own. Look for it yourself and the truest belief and faith you'll have is yourself.

(at least that's what I believe )



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Oh, also, for ThE_tHiNg, I havn't done anything for you, do you believe in me?
And have you done something for him first, like praying or offering (depending which religion you are trying to learn about and give a chance to believe)?

And no one has PROVED how the world began, they're all theories and hypothesis.

That's an exaggeration (well, it is since you're speaking of Christ). Let me ask you this, if you had died and a million years past, should we not believe in your existance or question it?

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I'm assuming you're speaking of Christianity. All these sufferings and the world and such is suppose to be a test. God and the Devil had a war over difference of opinions (of how humans should live), and a war broke out between the two. Those who followed the devil were casted into the outer darkness while those who followed God went through a Veil of Shrouds (forgot its actual name, but it's a cloudy area that makes you forget everything) and were given a physical body. The physical body, which is somewhat of a reward, is precious and the Devil wants it, that's why he uses his demons and trickery and temptations to gain your body (posessions and such) because they don't have any.
We are on Earth because we were given a body, but must be tested again to make sure we all had faith in God (kinda makes you wonder there, what, doesn't he have faith in us?) and so put to this test.
Since God won the war, we were able to have free will, as in we choose what we want to do. The consequences, however, are our own to handle (or in some cases, of government officals' >_<)

Either way, God doesn't jsut DO what he wants to do. It's not a videogame with insane cheats. And all these sufferings? Well, don't you think that's really more of the cause of Man? And, instead of worrying about all that suffering, why not do something to help it? We can question it all we wont, but with no actions taken, the thought wont be counted there. Also, suffering is a lot more than just war, death, plagues, famine, ect., suffering may be as small as a child being bullied in school or domestic issues in certain families. All these are sufferings, and no one can really discredit them as sufferings because everything hits us at a different magnitude, saying something that happened to you is a lot worse than somethign that happened to me may seem obvious, but not necessary always true.

Again, stay open minded and be ready for all possibilities.

YES, IF THATS WHAT YOU TRULY BELIEVE THEN YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Im not a fake Christian you atheist drone. Im sick and tired of your bullshyt, Jeus ALSO taught us to stick ourselfs out ofr each other or something to that extent, a soldier protecting me and me calling for that soldier to protect me is NOT being anti-christian. What would you know about being Christian anyway...

Anyone who supports pain and suffering for others is not a true christian at all.
You have stated numerous times how you support torture. Hell, you very avy speaks of napalm which has burned hundreds of homes and killed thousands. (Not saying in this war.) Your about as christian as apple pie is american.

Is that how you get by each day? By telling you, oh he's not this so what would he know about it? Because jesus was jewish, his basic principles are also basic jewish principles and basic islamic ones. Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qur'ran.

I know quite a bit about your so-called religion. Don't try to derail me because you want to cry because I called you on what you are. You support imperialism, torture, and death.

Thomas Jefferson once said a rebellion should be called upon every 10 years to keep the government healthy.

P.S. Its kind of an oxymoron to be an athiest drone. Being that we believe in no higher being to follow. AKA Can't be a drone because drones are followers.

Figured I'd add this:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

Oh right, our own government is stupid enough to cast their own airplanes in their own buildings and kill their very own people and affect the lives of thousands and thousands of people.... I don't believe in any of that bullcrap in which the government secretly planned 9/11 or something. Do you know how easy it is for people nowadays to make anything sound as though it's not what it seems to be?
So if a boeing 747 didn't crash into the pentagon, then where did it go? And where did the people of that plane go? They were reported dead, so exactly how did they die? I love how in Golden-Fist's second link, the people who made that clip deliberately avoid those crucial points. lol

Maybe watch Loose Change. It states that a boeing did not go into the pentagon. Gives reasons and proof. It says a plane did go into it, but not commercial.
Ya and Hitler would never burn down the reichstag parliament, one of the most important german buildings, throwing the country into war, affecting the lives of millions.... ya he would never do that. Do you really think a person lobbying for power wouldn't do that. You are as blind as chris MA.

OFFICIAL SITE - http://www.loosechange911.com/
VIDEO - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801

Even media jounalists reported right after it happened that it didn't look like a boeing. Then about 3 hours later, fox reported something different and all others followed suit.

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I also love how closely the patriot act resembles the enabling act.

A ha, I knew someone would say that. Cough cough what if that same teenager went and got pregnent again with no cause and kept doing that untill who knows what. Now that becomes a flawing issue.

I've already watched those videos. Yes I know a plane crashed into it (maybe not a boeing 747, but I didn't clarify earlier), but I don't believe the crap where they say it was a missile that flew into the building (from some other video.)

Except that the United States of America is not a dictatorship, is not run by a dictator, and much much more.

EDIT: Btw, I don't support the patriot act. Don't get me confused with some other individuals

It's PROVEN that homosexuality is not genetic. It is reflected in behavior. Do some research if you're curious, you can probably find resources on the web.

~Tdnfthe1

LOL neither was Germany. You know nothing about history, do you? Hitler was democratically elected. The people voted then. They thought they were free.

Thats what you don't seem to grasp. It was turned into a facist regime from a free government after he attained the executive powers. By then, no one could oppose him, he had banned all other parties.

The missle thing actually has some credability, being that its footage from the news. Also the part where it reflects on the fuselage when the plane hadn't even touched yet.

Explain to me why Osamas family was escorted out of the US on a plane, while all other planes were grounded? Shouldn't we have been questioning them?

Did you also know that Osama Bin-Ladin was a CIA tactician? Trained by the US, given weapons, and sent off to fight ing Afghanistan in the 1980's to commit terrorism against the Russians. How can you negate the facts?

ADDITION:
If you had read that comparison chart, it contains a quote from herman goerring (SP?)

Read it.

Please by all means tell me when I have stated I support torture.

Yes OH MY GOSH YOU GOT ME, ohhhh noooo Im soo anti-Christian for wanting protection for my family.

And your a drone or sheep because your following the exact same mind set of thousands of other people like you. You eat that bullcrap they give you like a fat boy likes his cake.

The irony is killing me.

1 abortion per two years? That rule might keep that from happening, at least a bit longer.

Examples? Push up or shut up

Just so you know, you assumed too much, I don't take their ideas. I form my own. I see something that interests me, I go from site to site looking it up. Meanwhile you go from page to page on mass-media websites. NEver looking at independent news.

You stated you support it "so long as it keeps us safe". Thats not wanting protection for your family, thats buying into that same bullcrap millions of "good germans" bought into. Look where it took them. You forget too soon the words of many revolutionaries.



By telling yourself "it could never happen here" you are just asking for it to happen.

Just so you know, your more a drone then I could ever be. For it is the majority that you follow.

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P.S. Chris, you do a lot of that "push up or shut up" yet you provide incoherent proofs. ITs high time you do the shutting up as you definately can't do the push ups.

P.S.S. No comment on the 14 points?