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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PearS on 2004-12-11 at 12:51:38
The number of deaths a country suffered does not show how good they were in the war. In the battle of Stalingrad half of their troops didn't even have a gun! I'd say tatics like that are a big cause of deaths =p
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2004-12-11 at 13:14:21
The actual definition of Liberal the way Liberal is used politically are far different. Most of the time when it is used in a political sense it's used as something positive by the Democrats and something negative by the Republicans.

Democrat: We must change the country for the better!
Republican: That's not better, that's so much worse! You're turning our country into censored.gif !
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-12-11 at 13:34:40
Ah, double meaning, yet another reason why Republicans are stupid. They are defining words their own way instead of the real way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2004-12-11 at 13:52:03
Its all how you look at it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2004-12-12 at 11:13:05
QUOTE(Salacious)
Basan is unfamiliar with the concept of scope. You see, when I say one sentence is an undeniable fact, this doesn't mean that everything I have ever said it undeniable fact. It only means that one sentence is undeniable fact.


Is that so? So where's the proof of that 1st sentence!?!
And when you connect those sentences through it's rational process you're implying that all of'em are true. I just want to see those 'blatant' proofs. mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2004-12-12 at 11:30:00
QUOTE(CheeZe(U) @ Dec 11 2004, 10:42 AM)
I don't know where you stand, but I would like to ask if being a Liberal is a bad thing. I looked up the meaning just incase our words may be meaning differently, so I'm trying to make sure. Why is being a Liberal bad???

For anyone who doesn't know, being a Liberal means you change views depending on the new facts that come.
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i dont kno wat they are called, im only 14....>.< my vocabulary is still growing cry.gif sometimes i make up words to explain....uh.....the un..describable...ness?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2004-12-12 at 17:38:07
QUOTE(NeoNightmareX @ Dec 12 2004, 11:30 AM)
i dont kno wat they are called, im only 14....>.< my vocabulary is still growing cry.gif sometimes i make up words to explain....uh.....the un..describable...ness?
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This is why im so ashamed of being 14.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2004-12-12 at 18:29:27
Bush won for several reasons

Personally, I think Democrats outnumber Republicans, but Democrats don't vote!!
And second, Kerry said he was for the common people or something like that, which he isn't. He frickien lives in a huge mansion, and Kerry's wife poked at Laura Bush for being a librarian..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2004-12-12 at 19:00:11
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Bush won for several reasons

Personally, I think Democrats outnumber Republicans, but Democrats don't vote!!
And second, Kerry said he was for the common people or something like that, which he isn't. He frickien lives in a huge mansion, and Kerry's wife poked at Laura Bush for being a librarian..

WHAT
THE HELL
DOES THAT
HAVE
TO
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WITH
ANYTHING?


Just because the man has money doesn’t automatically make him a bad person, and what plausible connection stands between a comment made by Theresa Heinz Kerry (who at the risk of stating the obvious is not her husband John) about Laura Bush's experience in the working world and Senator John Kerry's opinions about the common man?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2004-12-12 at 19:04:01
QUOTE(Chill @ Dec 12 2004, 05:38 PM)
This is why im so ashamed of being 14.
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dude....ouch......much......and a half.......that was just uncalled-for-ly harsh...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Asdf on 2004-12-14 at 18:48:34
QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 3 2004, 06:04 PM)
Nader was a good candidate up until this election. Then he turned into a hypocrite.
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uh nader's gay



he would've turn us into communists sad.gif



I personally think thats a bad thing
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2004-12-14 at 18:52:06
What's wrong with comunism?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2004-12-15 at 00:34:30
QUOTE(Chill @ Dec 14 2004, 05:52 PM)
What's wrong with comunism?
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Everything....

muahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha.....

Erhm, excuse me. My winterbreak just started so im a bit hyper now...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2004-12-15 at 05:34:29
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QUOTE(Mr.Asdf)
uh nader's gay

he would've turn us into communists sad.gif


And that affects you in? What's wrong with gay for you ppl (only Bush lovers it seems) anyways!?! disgust.gif - End edit.

If it's the 'light' communism, I'd be up for it... tongue.gif

QUOTE(Chill)
What's wrong with comunism?


If it's like in the old USSR days... I'm strongly against. If it's socialism (aka light communism) count me in. happy.gif

Edit reason: Adding quote 'bout gay folks... *ranting.gif at Mr.Asdf*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2004-12-16 at 23:49:03
QUOTE(yeow @ Dec 12 2004, 06:29 PM)
Bush won for several reasons

Personally, I think Democrats outnumber Republicans, but Democrats don't vote!!
And second, Kerry said he was for the common people or something like that, which he isn't. He frickien lives in a huge mansion, and Kerry's wife poked at Laura Bush for being a librarian..
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Actually, I'm pretty sure, if you try to look it up Republicans -.- outnumber democrats. Also, if you havent noticed, this day in age you basically have to be somewhat rich to run for president. It can't happen like in the movie Head Of state. He was smart to marry heinz. *She poked her* O_o ?


QUOTE(Chill @ Dec 14 2004, 06:52 PM)
What's wrong with comunism?
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EVERYTHING. Reason we went to war with North Korea and China They have a communist goverment. Which means no private ownership. So, when you own a buisness, all the money you make goes to the country. then, its evenly distributed to everyone. (Sounds like a great idea) BUT Mao se Tung(Founder of communism) forgot about human nature like greed. So, if USA was a communist country, Bill Gates would have censored.gif for money compared to what he has now. Communism is a bad type of goverment. chinese.gif chinese.gif eek.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2004-12-17 at 00:36:17
QUOTE(n2o-Simpsons @ Dec 16 2004, 08:49 PM)
EVERYTHING. Reason we went to war with North Korea and China They have a communist goverment. Which means no private ownership. So, when you own a buisness, all the money you make goes to the country. then, its evenly distributed to everyone. (Sounds like a great idea) BUT Mao se Tung(Founder of communism) forgot about human nature like greed. So, if USA was a communist country, Bill Gates would have  censored.gif  for money compared to what he has now. Communism is a bad type of goverment. chinese.gif  chinese.gif  eek.gif
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Uh, let me clarify a few things. First, we never went to war with China; we fought North Korea and Vietnam, yes, but not China. Second, Mao Zedong wasn't the creator of Communism; Karl Marx was. But you were still right about the greed part; without greed, Communism might sound like a good idea after all. Greed is what makes Communism look bad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HeRtZ on 2004-12-17 at 01:53:15
you know why bush won il tell you why. john kerry was a censored.gif and resigned like a tampon. thats why and bush is a good prez
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-12-17 at 12:59:12
QUOTE(HeRtZ @ Dec 17 2004, 01:53 AM)
you know why bush won il tell you why. john kerry was a  censored.gif  and resigned like a tampon. thats why and bush is a good prez
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Shut Up. No one cares about your opinion of thats all you can say.

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EVERYTHING. Reason we went to war with North Korea and China They have a communist goverment. Which means no private ownership. So, when you own a buisness, all the money you make goes to the country. then, its evenly distributed to everyone. (Sounds like a great idea) BUT Mao se Tung(Founder of communism) forgot about human nature like greed. So, if USA was a communist country, Bill Gates would have censored.gif for money compared to what he has now. Communism is a bad type of goverment.

Communism is not a bad government. People often confuse Communism with dictatorship, which is not the same. Communism is the best and most effective type of government in an ideal system. But we don't live in that kind of a world so that's why it won't work.
But we should still look into it, much like how we use ideal systems in science or more specific, gas and it's kinetic theories.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2004-12-17 at 14:34:23
QUOTE(N2-Simpsons)
... (Sounds like a great idea) BUT Mao se Tung(Founder of communism) forgot about human nature like greed. ...


Correction, please. Mao was the founder of chinese communism not all communism. Forgot about Marx? And some others but they weren't the initial founders, like Trotsky. ermm.gif

Oppsss... Beaten to it by Morpheus. pinch.gif

QUOTE(Hertz)
you know why bush won il tell you why. john kerry was a  censored.gif  and resigned like a tampon. thats why and bush is a good prez


Oh... another 'proverbial light' carrier that popped 'round. Sonny, read the whole thread and if you can prove anything against what we've said, then I'll look up to your allegations.
Like all the others before, you prob'ly won't be able to backup what you state so, shut up please. ranting.gif

QUOTE(Cheeze)
Communism is not a bad government. People often confuse Communism with dictatorship, which is not the same. Communism is the best and most effective type of government in an ideal system. But we don't live in that kind of a world so that's why it won't work.
But we should still look into it, much like how we use ideal systems in science or more specific, gas and it's kinetic theories.


I kinda agree here. But to me the light communism (aka socialism) is way better than the original deal. The other just tends to get control maniacal, thus dictatorship arrives. wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2004-12-17 at 18:20:28
QUOTE(HeRtZ @ Dec 17 2004, 01:53 AM)
you know why bush won il tell you why. john kerry was a  censored.gif  and resigned like a tampon. thats why and bush is a good prez
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Please post in the garbage section censored.gif ing piece of : censored.gif : !!

Mao se tung brought communism to China. Have you ever heard of the great leap forward or the long march??

Also in the Vietnam war we didn't directly attack China but, they were on North Koreas side.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-12-17 at 18:33:30
Uh...you realize Vietnam War was fought in Vietnam right? Not North Korea?

Also, I tried searching for an alliance between China and North Korea, couldn't find any. mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2004-12-17 at 19:09:34
QUOTE(yeow @ Dec 12 2004, 03:29 PM)
Bush won for several reasons

Personally, I think Democrats outnumber Republicans, but Democrats don't vote!!


Thank you Yeow! I thought at least ONE person would know one of the MAIN reasons that Republicans win!

Democrats outnumber Republicans either 4:1 or 6:1, but most are too LAZY AND STUPID to vote! Don't be calling republicans stupid because the stupid ones are the ones who don't vote to make a difference.

Actually, I would like a pure Democratic government; all the people who are super rich have to pay for us to sit on our rear and be lazy! Then we could have more time to play Starcraft! HORRAY! w00t.gif

Now the above is an obvious negative stereotype of democrats, but seriously the other way of pure equal democracy (w/o capitalism) can't work either.

QUOTE(Cheeze)
Communism is not a bad government. People often confuse Communism with dictatorship, which is not the same. Communism is the best and most effective type of government in an ideal system. But we don't live in that kind of a world so that's why it won't work.
But we should still look into it, much like how we use ideal systems in science or more specific, gas and it's kinetic theories.


I would actually prefer this lifestyle of a "heaven on earth", but people are naturally sinful (note the word sinful and its meaning), making it impossible to have this world. sad.gif

So basically, democrats wanting "equality" are thinking of an impossibility (even though its not wrong to try to achieve) and most democrats aren't really model citizens to what they are trying to achieve. pinch.gif

Many people will probably get furious at this (and prove the point just ahead), but is it just me or are democrats more short-tempered than republicans...
Well, it could just be equal considering that there is a 1:6 or 1:4 ratio and just there are 4 or 6 short-tempered democrats to every 1 short-tempered republican. This argument could just be void because you could say that its just a concidence because genes in your body have nothing to do with politics, but democrats seem to be more "aggressive".

P. S. Oh yea waaaaay back don't use that IQ sheet because its a combination of BOTH Republicans + Democrats in the states and a jerk could say something like "well the republicans are really smart in California compared to other states and the ton of stupid, average, and some smart democrats lower it" or something to that extent, making that IQ sheet void.

<('.'<) Kirbys shall stay calm! <(^.^)>
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2004-12-18 at 18:37:08
QUOTE(CheeZe(U) @ Dec 17 2004, 06:33 PM)
Uh...you realize Vietnam War was fought in Vietnam right? Not North Korea?

Also, I tried searching for an alliance between China and North Korea, couldn't find any. mellow.gif
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Lol!!! What was i thinking i ment Korean War !! (DUMBASS)(*kicks himself because he was doing two thing at once!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2004-12-20 at 23:54:55
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Communism is not a bad government. People often confuse Communism with dictatorship, which is not the same. Communism is the best and most effective type of government in an ideal system. But we don't live in that kind of a world so that's why it won't work.
But we should still look into it, much like how we use ideal systems in science or more specific, gas and it's kinetic theories.

Communism not a bad government?!? How would u like if if you were a really highly educated doctor or something like a rocket scientist and all of YOUR hard work gets you the same amount of money a janitor does?

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you know why bush won il tell you why. john kerry was a    and resigned like a tampon. thats why and bush is a good prez

The hell you talking about? John kerry did not resign; he lost fair and square. His resignation doesn't make bush a good prez but it's because bush is a good prez that John Kerry lost

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Personally, I think Democrats outnumber Republicans, but Democrats don't vote!!


Population wise it's possible but i could be wrong. However, distribution wise of the Democrats are too confined. They're basically only in the west coast and new england parts. Everywhere else is Republican and some of those states have some pretty smart people...

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Actually, I would like a pure Democratic government; all the people who are super rich have to pay for us to sit on our rear and be lazy! Then we could have more time to play Starcraft! HORRAY!

Sounds like, socialism? Maybe not actually. Not just more time to play starcraft, but more time for those lazy ass blizzard folks to begin workin on SC2.

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Mao se tung brought communism to China. Have you ever heard of the great leap forward or the long march??

Yes, everyone that knows something about history should have heard about it. I watched a movie about a chinese family's life during the shift from the Nationalist Goverment to the Communist Government. Communism really looked good at first but as the movie progresses, it slowly beings to rear communism's ugliness. They got rid of all their smart intellectuals and replaced them with noobs. The main character's daughter was pregnant and the newb doctors helped her get the baby out. Suddenly she began bleeding, badly. Things went chaotic; no one knew what to do. They were like "OMG She's going to die! HELP!!!" And shortly she does. Sux ass doesnt it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RyanEdwardLee on 2004-12-21 at 10:13:27
WHY ARE YOU STILL GOING ON ABOUT BUSH WINNING?!
WTH!? i mean seriously, haven't you all had enough? Bush it's prez! get over it, go on with your lives! for god's sakes, you may not like it but life isn't fair, so move on and please someone lock this topic!
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