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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-12-28 at 15:26:03
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Man, in 50 years the U.S. will continue to be a world super power.

We are nothing without allies.
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We will kick canadas ass to hell and back.

Oh right, because you know how much we like invading neutral or nonthreatening nations.
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We will be the first to settle on other planets

Not at the rate NASA is going.
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and take over europe.

Nice one. I doubt we're that stupid.
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We are the next Germany, but 3x's as powerful.

Yay, we're like Germany. We have Hitler as a president and a population supporting what he says, so in that sense we are like Nazi Germany. But also take into account Germany's history; it was totally divided into about 300 something states ruled by small princes - also relevant to the division of our red/blue states. [sarcasm]Oh and the best part was after WWI when Germany's population dropped by 2/3, that's really looking like us - wouldn't you say? And post-WWII when everyone but Germans ruled Germany, that really should be us as well.[/sarcasm]

Oh and my 2 cents on this one:
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For all the people who hate Bush for whatever reason it may be, you need to get out more often and read a lot more into whats going on. Bush isn't a bad president, he isn't even a bad guy. And he certainly isn't a moron like everyone says and thinks he is.

Actually I think the idea is that all of us have been doing our reading and watching our documentaries to realize he is just as bad as every one says. Ah and he can't pronounce (much less define) most words he says in speeches - I'd call that a moron.

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He won for one simple reason, there is a war going on. And no one wants to change president when we still have to deal with all this crap in Iraq. They want it all the way it's going now without any interference from someone like Kerry, who I believe wanted to rush the process going on in Iraq. Which would only end badly.

Actually, during World War II, we had 2 presidents. During Vietnam we had about 6 presidents. So in that sense, we were extremely satisfied with electing a new president during a war. And if you got out and did your reading or even listen to what Kerry says, his intentions are to end the war. And what "process" do you speak of? We declared "mission accomplished" how long ago, and we're still have a lot of trouble there? Doesn't that kind of mean that Bush was the one rushing to conclusions? That would be like us saying World War II was over 6 months before D-Day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by regimentaL on 2004-12-30 at 22:28:35
Actually, in the 2000 election, the majority of the country voted for Gore, but since the electoral college voted Bush, he won. It was very close and Florida's electoral candidate was kind of iffy about which one, and in the end he didn't vote at all. His vote could have won the election for Gore, but personally i like Bush more.

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DEVLIN! how can a robot be amish? ..Are they like.. what the hell... that's impossible sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2004-12-30 at 22:47:21
QUOTE(greenreaper @ Dec 24 2004, 09:06 AM)
Umm.....ALL Christian's would have to because in the Ten Commandments there was something said about people of the same sex NOT marrying.  Wouldn't Christian's have to 'follow' this?
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its in the Bible, just not in the 10 Commandments, it is somewhere else in there

QUOTE(Cloak(U) @ Dec 21 2004, 07:37 PM)
I didn't really read all tha things yall put but... Busch won cuz he CHEATED!!
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can we really believe a person who cannot even spell the 4 letter word "Bush"? Busch is a beer franchise from Budweiser....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-12-31 at 00:25:01
The campaigners for Bush couldn't spell his name either.

edit: For some reason it says that it's an invalid image extension. I have no idea why. =\

Press this link instead then, =\, maybe it doesn't like .bmp.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Nuc.../bushpeople.bmp

pwned, biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2004-12-31 at 01:43:53
Very nice, I've never even seen that one before. Man I love those timely ol' Bush tales of choking on a pretzel and waving to an obviously/well-known blind superstar.

All I can say is:
God bless America, because no one else will.

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DEVLIN! how can a robot be amish? ..Are they like.. what the hell... that's impossible

Its somewhat of an oxymoron and its supposed to be ironic - Amish and Robots don't mix. Get it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2004-12-31 at 12:38:35
Great one (answer), Zergling P.Dead. happy.gif

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can we really believe a person who cannot even spell the 4 letter word "Bush"? Busch is a beer franchise from Budweiser....


Stop bein' such a grammar nazi. Anyone can make typos (mistakes) occasionally. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-01-01 at 13:10:23
Bush kicks ass. He sure kicked islamic ass for no reason. He sure kicked our allies asses so everybody hates us. I think Bush is a religious nutbunny who has no right to be in office, I mean, he's leading us on a censored.gif ing CRUSADE? No no, mister Bush. I dont want to go to holy war. Listen to things he says, you'll pick up the fact that he is a religious zealot.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2005-01-02 at 01:12:49
Well at one of his rallies, I remember hearing that one person said, "I trully believe Jesus is in the White House" during the Q&A period. That's lovely.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2005-01-05 at 03:09:58
The debate is still going on two months after the election... This topic's white-hot, man.

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The expected role of the Antichrist

Christian denominations disagree on what will happen in the end times, and the role that Satan and the Antichrist will play. Among those who expect the Antichrist to arise in the future, there is a general consensus that sometime prior to the expected return of Jesus, there will be a period of "trials and tribulations" during which the Antichrist, inspired by Satan, will attempt to win supporters, and will silence anyone or make enemies of any country who refuses to approve of him. This metaphor written as ("receive his mark").

In this view, an event termed the "White Throne Judgment" will take place, at which time both the living and the dead will be resurrected, some for everlasting life, and some for everlasting death. All those who worship God and Jesus will be admitted to the presence of God; but everyone who would not repent of the Antichrist will be sent to an outer darkness. Finally, the "Dragon" (often interpreted as Satan), the "Beast" (often interpreted as the Antichrist) and the "false prophet" (interpreted in many ways) who compels the world to worship the Beast (lie), and all who received his mark (cast their lot with him), will be thrown into a lake of fire together with death and Hell. These views are based on controversial passages in the Apocalypse of John, more commonly known as the Book of Revelation.

The trials and tribulations? Well, you've got 9/11, for starters; there are also the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the train bombing in Spain, and the tsunami in South Asia. However, as you will read later, these events might as well be omens of even greater strife to come. Right after 9/11, Bush won many supporters, and he formed the Department of Homeland Security and passed the Patriot Act in order to silence the opposition under the guise of fighting terrorism. Bush has also made enemies of France, Germany, and Russia, all countries that refused to approve of him and his war on Iraq. "Cast their lot with him" might be interpreted as "having voted for him."

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Characteristics of the Antichrist

Based on the interpretations of the specific passages from the books of Daniel and Revelations, the Antichrist is commonly expected to meet certain characteristics. The Bible describes a beast-like creature, but over the years these characteristics have been interpreted as being metaphorical.

For example, the beast is supposed to have "ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns upon its horns" (Revelation 13:1–2) which is sometimes interpreted to mean the Antichrist will lead 27 or 17 countries. They will follow in his battles that he will declare boldly and without humility are for a purpose which is untrue. Likewise the fact that the beast is described as being "worshipped" is taken as a sign that the Antichrist will be a popular figure among those who are deceived by him. Revelation states that "He will appear as an angel of light", which is interepreted to mean that he will profess to be a man of God, or a person who is himself a Christian.

The most common interpretations continue to be that the Antichrist will be some sort of high-ranking political leader, who will initially do very good, popular things, which will win him many followers. In the end, however he is supposed to get increasingly totalitarian and elicit more and more sacrifices from his followers until eventually his evil ways become known, and the era of "trials and tribulations" begins.

27 or 17 countries? At least 27 countries are in the coalition fighting in Iraq right now (I'm not sure of the exact number). He's definitely a popular figure among those that he has deceived, and he professes himself to be a "man of God." And the whole "worship" thing? Visit Bush is Lord; this is a cult of personality taken to the furthest extreme, even further than Joseph Stalin (another man purported to be the Antichrist, BTW). He's a high-ranking political leader (a big, resounding DUH), and initially, he did good, popular things, which won him supporters, but after 9/11, his regime became increasingly totalitarian (this is rather extreme; authoritarian might be more appropriate).

Visit George W. Bush is the Antichrist and read what is written there. That is all I have to say.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-01-05 at 07:39:57
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Umm.....ALL Christian's would have to because in the Ten Commandments there was something said about people of the same sex NOT marrying.  Wouldn't Christian's have to 'follow' this?


QUOTE(N.Nighmare replies to GreenReaper)
its in the Bible, just not in the 10 Commandments, it is somewhere else in there


Said it in post #323, that this isn't specifically spoken/written anywhere in that book (Bible), but if you can... Please do point it more specifically to us.

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Morpheus, I won't go that far to call the man the AntiChrist but that he's somewhat obtuse, that I concur.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-01-05 at 18:04:59
QUOTE(Basan @ Dec 31 2004, 12:38 PM)
Great one (answer), Zergling P.Deadhappy.gif

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can we really believe a person who cannot even spell the 4 letter word "Bush"? Busch is a beer franchise from Budweiser....


Stop bein' such a grammar nazi. Anyone can make typos (mistakes) occasionally. tongue.gif
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grammar nazi? its a 4 letter word!! i can understand typos on other words which are longer....it that isn't really grammar, that would make me more of a spelling nazi...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-01-05 at 18:19:47
Grammar, spelling, same thing...

Well, not really..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-01-05 at 18:38:57
i know its not the same thing, thats why i corrected him, and i noticed something, basan so far, has quoted and replied to almost every (if not every) post i ever made in this thread i think he hates me tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2005-01-05 at 19:06:48
You people are getting off-topic. Have any of you read that thing I posted earlier?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-01-05 at 19:09:54
We sure didnt. Or i didnt. What post number was it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2005-01-05 at 19:13:53
Look for post #334. It's that really long thing on how George W. Bush is the Antichrist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-01-05 at 20:25:17
but looka t the picture of him with the "devil horns" could someone please explain how his shadow is on both his wife and the glass....ummm....can you say photoshopped?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .matrix//Merovingian on 2005-01-05 at 20:54:18
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but looka t the picture of him with the "devil horns" could someone please explain how his shadow is on both his wife and the glass....ummm....can you say photoshopped?
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user posted image

This picture? Yeah, I think it's photoshopped too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-01-06 at 07:10:03
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i know its not the same thing, thats why i corrected him, and i noticed something, basan so far, has quoted and replied to almost every (if not every) post i ever made in this thread i think he hates me tongue.gif


I don't hate ya, but picking on the way he/she writes to use it has a detrimental tool of his/hers abillity to post in this area just got under my skin. I know it could not be taken more seriously due to that, but that's the posters problem not ours. I think you could've said it in a nicer way, though. happy.gif
For instance, you don't see me pointin' out that you don't start your sentences with big caps or even the I thingy not being correct everytime you post, do ya? *Ops, I guess just did* ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-01-06 at 08:00:36
QUOTE(Morpheus @ Jan 5 2005, 08:54 PM)
user posted image

This picture? Yeah, I think it's photoshopped too.
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yea that picture, if thats not bush's shadow on his wife, then whose is it? hers magically on top of her? i dont trust that entire thing just for that

Edit: Basan, i barely capitilize my sentences at school tongue.gif why whould i do it here biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moogle on 2005-01-06 at 08:20:25
Why did bush win? Who knows.

Why do stupid win? Because stupid vote for stupid, while smart vote for smart people, more stupid people, so stupidness wins by default.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-01-06 at 13:13:20
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Edit: Basan, i barely capitilize my sentences at school tongue.gif why whould i do it here biggrin.gif


I didin't say it just to pick on you, just as a reminder for you to don't go correctin' folks like you did (kinda harshly). Especially if you can't play the role model as implied by your post. (Your not the best grammar n' spelling around here.)
You writting the way you do just isn't on my priorities list. Definetly. happy.gif

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Why did bush win? Who knows.

Why do stupid win? Because stupid vote for stupid, while smart vote for smart people, more stupid people, so stupidness wins by default.


Post with better reasoning next time, please. Afterall this is the serious debate area n' not post your unbased opinion area (aka garbage section).
Come on, ppl! See the full thread 1st, then post if you have any interesting view points to add into the debate. Mature reasoning n' interesting debate (read based and/or logically proved) is what I like to think this area is for. Guess I'm thinkin' wrong... ranting.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-01-06 at 17:40:05
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I didin't say it just to pick on you
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YES U DID!!! U JUST WANTED TO MAKE ME CRY!!! WELL IT WORKED!!!! cry.gif sadwalk.gif weep.gif JK

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Your not the best grammar n' spelling around here.
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i know that i'm not, but its a four letter word, those aren't difficult, unless they are french or something, french words are uber difficult, and i've always wondered somthing Basan, why do u put N.Nightmare, you could just put Neo, its just a little peev
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-01-06 at 17:51:26
Bush won because more people voted for him. More people voted for him because people liked him better than kerry. People liked Bush better because he would be a better president than Kerry. He would be a better president than Kerry because some people are stupid.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2005-01-06 at 21:22:01
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grammar nazi? its a 4 letter word!! i can understand typos on other words which are longer....it that isn't really grammar, that would make me more of a spelling nazi...

You misspelled "if," a two letter word. I'll play the role of grammar Nazi if need be. tongue.gif

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This picture? Yeah, I think it's photoshopped too.

Please tell me that is sarcasm, I doubt anyone would really think that wasn't made with Photoshop... blink.gif
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