Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-07-16 at 22:43:20
I blame Global Warming..its almost 115 in California.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yoni45 on 2006-07-16 at 22:51:36
All North Korea really has though are nukes... Granted, deadly weapons, but that's not world-war kind of stuff, worst case scenario, they fire off a few, and get annihilated... I guess the casualties could be that of a world war, but that'd particular scenario would end rather quickly =/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-07-16 at 22:58:01
QUOTE(TERRAINFIGHTER @ Jul 16 2006, 08:39 PM)
2. it's part of the earths cycle, as it heats up the ice caps will melt cooling off the earth and raising the ocean level back to normal
That's funny. I had no idea the oceans were low to begin with.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2006-07-16 at 23:10:57
You get the idea of what he was saying, though. i don't beleive in global warming, I believe in pollution and waste.
We don't need to make pollution, but energy companies are making such huge profits from preventing widespread installation of solar, wind, and water generators that they're not going to stop until legislation moves in. Which won't happen for awhile, because they fund our politician's campaigns.
The reason they don't want to use clean, economic power is ebcause, if you don't pay your "solar bill", they can't turn off the sun.
We don't need to make pollution, but energy companies are making such huge profits from preventing widespread installation of solar, wind, and water generators that they're not going to stop until legislation moves in. Which won't happen for awhile, because they fund our politician's campaigns.
The reason they don't want to use clean, economic power is ebcause, if you don't pay your "solar bill", they can't turn off the sun.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-07-16 at 23:11:37
Haha, I could just imagine North Korea launching a nuke and seeing it come flying back down on them.
Kim: Oh this is the problem! Made in KoreA!
Kim: Oh this is the problem! Made in KoreA!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-07-16 at 23:14:00
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I blame Global Warming..its almost 115 in California.
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WE are going to blame you then. Get out there with a giant fan and solve the problem!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-07-16 at 23:23:50
Anyone who doesn't believe it should be dragged along to see An Inconvenient Truth.
All of these arguments say one thing, you think it is perfectly natural.
We've gone through tons of cycles, and this is nothing different.
Excuse me while I scoff.
There is hardly anything normal about the increases of CO[sub]2[/sub] levels in the atmosphere. Humans are generating a highly unusual and unnatrual increase, will which kill us eventually if we don't take steps to stop it.
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1. there's almost absolutely no proof of it, almost everything used as a claim to be because of it is natural cycles
2. it's part of the earths cycle, as it heats up the ice caps will melt cooling off the earth and raising the ocean level back to normal
3. The earth was once very hot, it was also once very cold, right now it's kind've in the middle so if it changes at all people complain
4. after the earth heats up it will start to cool off, and then global freezing will be the new issue untill it heats up again
5. Doesn't anyone realize that wildlife will adjust? the earth was once really cold, so we developed thicker skins, I assume we can adjust to the heat as well, along with the plants that will become more tropical and the fruit will change over years.
2. it's part of the earths cycle, as it heats up the ice caps will melt cooling off the earth and raising the ocean level back to normal
3. The earth was once very hot, it was also once very cold, right now it's kind've in the middle so if it changes at all people complain
4. after the earth heats up it will start to cool off, and then global freezing will be the new issue untill it heats up again
5. Doesn't anyone realize that wildlife will adjust? the earth was once really cold, so we developed thicker skins, I assume we can adjust to the heat as well, along with the plants that will become more tropical and the fruit will change over years.
All of these arguments say one thing, you think it is perfectly natural.
We've gone through tons of cycles, and this is nothing different.
Excuse me while I scoff.
There is hardly anything normal about the increases of CO[sub]2[/sub] levels in the atmosphere. Humans are generating a highly unusual and unnatrual increase, will which kill us eventually if we don't take steps to stop it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord_Agamemnon(MM) on 2006-07-16 at 23:29:40
You tell 'im, Demaris!
Anyway.
It sucks in St. Louis, too. We've had 95 for two days in a row. And it's always humid here, which isn't helping...
Anyway.
It sucks in St. Louis, too. We've had 95 for two days in a row. And it's always humid here, which isn't helping...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-07-16 at 23:39:24
I haven't felt a heat wave...
I guess Alaska isn't part of the U.S.
I guess Alaska isn't part of the U.S.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-07-16 at 23:42:32
May I ask the source of the graph?
Just wondering about the study.
I don't think any ammount of danger will stem our populace from using their effects.
Just wondering about the study.
I don't think any ammount of danger will stem our populace from using their effects.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2006-07-16 at 23:46:53
There is a different between global warming and pollution, mind you.
I don't deny we're screwing up the environment, but I think man is overstating his power over nature. Consider this: the last "ice age" was doing the middle ages. The Ice caps reached their maximum coverage of recent times and began to recede again. I mean, the worst that can happen is we lose 3-4 miles of shoreline anyways.
I don't deny we're screwing up the environment, but I think man is overstating his power over nature. Consider this: the last "ice age" was doing the middle ages. The Ice caps reached their maximum coverage of recent times and began to recede again. I mean, the worst that can happen is we lose 3-4 miles of shoreline anyways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-07-16 at 23:51:03
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jul 16 2006, 10:23 PM)
Anyone who doesn't believe it should be dragged along to see An Inconvenient Truth.
All of these arguments say one thing, you think it is perfectly natural.
We've gone through tons of cycles, and this is nothing different.
Excuse me while I scoff.
There is hardly anything normal about the increases of CO[sub]2[/sub] levels in the atmosphere. Humans are generating a highly unusual and unnatrual increase, will which kill us eventually if we don't take steps to stop it.
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All of these arguments say one thing, you think it is perfectly natural.
We've gone through tons of cycles, and this is nothing different.
Excuse me while I scoff.
There is hardly anything normal about the increases of CO[sub]2[/sub] levels in the atmosphere. Humans are generating a highly unusual and unnatrual increase, will which kill us eventually if we don't take steps to stop it.
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Yes I do think most of it is perfectly natural, and apparently you missed this part of my post
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the heat isn't the problem for us, the problem is the pollution. 
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Now, if you read that you will notice that we're talking about the same problem, the pollution
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-07-16 at 23:53:51
QUOTE(Lord_Agamemnon @ Jul 16 2006, 10:29 PM)
You tell 'im, Demaris!
Anyway.
It sucks in St. Louis, too. We've had 95 for two days in a row. And it's always humid here, which isn't helping...
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Anyway.
It sucks in St. Louis, too. We've had 95 for two days in a row. And it's always humid here, which isn't helping...
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sounds like you're getting it pretty lucky, it's currently 98 here and rising!
(it was 93 a week ago)Report, edit, etc...Posted by Legendary(LX) on 2006-07-16 at 23:59:06
Zidane Lionheart.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-07-16 at 23:59:24
What are the chances of this? I just happened to be reading State of Fear, a great book with lots of information on global warming. It lead me to firmly believe against global warming.
Data against global warming.
Data against global warming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-07-16 at 23:59:52
If the ice caps melt they will cool down the oceans. If this happens there's a high chance that this newly found cold water will interupt the Gulf Stream and cause Western Europe to become more like Northern Canada. I don't think the people of Europe would like that one bit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2006-07-17 at 00:15:38
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According to secular logic, it's enjoyable, so why not?
Sex is meant to procreate, not to enjoy one's self. The enjoyment is a side effect of sex to promote procreation, which helps the survival of the human race.
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if a 12 year old is pregnant whats next 8 year-olds?
Um, no. 8 year olds arent even physically mature enough to be pregnant.
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I'm glad condoms were invented. They stop the spreading of diseases. That's what they were commonly invented for. Not just so that it prevents people from having children.
Condoms rarely protect you form disease.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-07-17 at 00:45:57
Not simply cool down, change the salinity of it. This is the big fear about the melting of the ice caps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-07-17 at 00:48:44
So nature vs nurture...
I believe that experiences will allow people gateways into what otherwise would be unventured paths, which change their outlook on life.
I believe that experiences will allow people gateways into what otherwise would be unventured paths, which change their outlook on life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2006-07-17 at 00:59:41
It's summer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-07-17 at 01:03:25
Another being is another being, even if they, by chance, share the exact same experiences and thoughts. Plants are living organisms and I'm sure a pair of them in this world have had the same experiences(but not thoughts cuz plants cant think).
Also, I believe that robots could be living too if they had a consciousness programmed into them. So, if you copy the program into another robot body, then you have two of the same consciousness.
Also, I believe that robots could be living too if they had a consciousness programmed into them. So, if you copy the program into another robot body, then you have two of the same consciousness.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (SEN)Dante50 on 2006-07-17 at 01:25:35
I was co-leader a few months back. I got tired of it and I quit.
Wow, this thread was dying there.
The person below me likes to eat food that makes the people watching go
Wow, this thread was dying there.
The person below me likes to eat food that makes the people watching go
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MasterJohnny on 2006-07-17 at 01:40:27
people could react diffrently to the same experience so the twins could be diffrent beings
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MasterJohnny on 2006-07-17 at 01:50:41
I live in cali its like going 105 i dont think summer is the problem
Comical relief: lets drop a giant ice cube in the ocean so it will cool
Comical relief: lets drop a giant ice cube in the ocean so it will cool
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-07-17 at 02:01:53
QUOTE(Rantent @ Jul 16 2006, 08:42 PM)
May I ask the source of the graph?
Just wondering about the study.
I don't think any ammount of danger will stem our populace from using their effects.
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Just wondering about the study.
I don't think any ammount of danger will stem our populace from using their effects.
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The particular graph was from here: http://news.mongabay.com/2005/1124-climate.html
However, I have seen many similar graphs from various places, including the one used in An Inconvenient Truth.
QUOTE(Wilhelm @ Jul 16 2006, 08:46 PM)
There is a different between global warming and pollution, mind you.
I don't deny we're screwing up the environment, but I think man is overstating his power over nature. Consider this: the last "ice age" was doing the middle ages. The Ice caps reached their maximum coverage of recent times and began to recede again. I mean, the worst that can happen is we lose 3-4 miles of shoreline anyways.
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I don't deny we're screwing up the environment, but I think man is overstating his power over nature. Consider this: the last "ice age" was doing the middle ages. The Ice caps reached their maximum coverage of recent times and began to recede again. I mean, the worst that can happen is we lose 3-4 miles of shoreline anyways.
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Well "losing shoreline" is a tad more of a problem than you might think. If the seas rose 20 feet, as would result from one major ice sheet (Greenland or a part of Antarctica) melting, over 100 million people would be displaced because their homes would be flooded. Think of all the cities with millions of people on the coast. Beijing. Shanghai. Manhattan. Ports of India.
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Yes I do think most of it is perfectly natural, and apparently you missed this part of my post
Care explaining what part of your post I missed? This increase in CO[sub]2[/sub] in the atmosphere is anything but natural.
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Data against global warming.
That article is written by anything but what I would call a respectable or trustworthy organization. I'll take one moment to point out one false set of facts (I'm not going to research them all).
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North America removes more carbon (about 2 billion tons) from the atmosphere than it emits (1.5 billion tons) each year. One reason is the tremendous regrowth in the eastern U.S. of forests that act as carbon sinks, removing CO2 from the atmosphere.
Every scientific commentary I have read either states that it is "extremely uncertain" whether such a carbon sink exists, or denies its existence outright. Furthermore, this policy grossly expands our supposed contribution, according the original Science article, they found we remove 1.7 billion tons annually, not 2.
For example, http://www.sustainabilityinstitute.org/dhm...796carbonsinked
Virtually no scientist disputes that global warming exists. A random sample of 937 articles on global waming in respected scientific journals were taken, and do you know how many acknowledged its existence? All of them.