Report, edit, etc...Posted by -bilal92- on 2006-07-26 at 12:50:48
QUOTE(Red2Blue @ Jul 3 2006, 03:52 PM)
The only reason why adults can't hear it... is because of the excessive loud sounds that they hear and excessive strain on their earlobes that causes deterioration in the bones in the ear. Thus, even the most minute sounds and high pitches aren't enough to cause the ear bones to ressonate. However. This isn't the case for most adults. I can understand for old people... but not for healthy adults. 
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Who the hell are you, Dr.Phil? and this doesn't seem like a serious discussion...I can't hear crap properly my ears always hurt. I got an ear infection but no one in my stupid pathetic family gives a crap, Im better off on te streets but then id be sad cause i wouldnt have staredit no more
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Joker47 on 2006-07-26 at 13:21:54
QUOTE(HolySin @ Jun 12 2006, 07:11 PM)
Wow, I can't hear a thing. Stupid thing. My brother said he could though (it was bothering him).... this is probably because of my 27 ear surgrys.
Poor me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-26 at 13:37:30
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jul 26 2006, 06:28 AM)
...you believe it is impossible to be good without religious values.*I don't see any other possibilities...
You see, CheeZe, if the idea of God didn't exist, I could have been good because of other values. Maybe I would be inspired by somebody. You may be good without God, I can't say I was really bad when I was little and didn't belive in him, but God changed me into a better person, I think. It fully depends on the person.
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jul 26 2006, 06:28 AM)
I need to know where you think morals come from. My conclusion above can only be reached if you believe it comes from religion...
Morals come from logic. The Bible puts them all together. But God is necesarry, because he also offers answers, besides simple rules. Why did the Big Bang happen ?How was this world created ? Science doesen't know. God does. Also I believe God controlls everything (I made the "believe" stand out just for those who will want to argue, because they should not try to proove one's beliefs wrong).
ADDITION:
QUOTE(Loser_Musician @ Jul 26 2006, 05:10 AM)
Jammed, wether you believe in god or not, you have to realise that by believing in God you're supporting a mentality that has murdered MANY people over the years. And you support that mentality just so you can sleep better at night. If that's not ironic, then I don't know what is.
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Mentality ? You mean the crusaders and their "Let's make them believe in God" ? They didn't believe in God like God told them to. God said: "Don't kill".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-07-26 at 14:00:18
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God said: "Don't kill".
Actually the literal translation from Hebrew is "Don't Murder." Which is very different from "Don't kill."
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13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
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17:2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Also I'm pretty sure you're going to Hell for not killing us.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-26 at 14:09:00
I don't follow all the rules, like I don't pray before eating, (I don't pray in many situations where I would if I followed all the rules), and much more. And as I've already said, I do not live for the afterlife.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-07-26 at 14:13:43
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I don't follow all the rules, like I don't pray before eating, (I don't pray in many situations where I would if I followed all the rules), and much more. And as I've already said, I do not live for the afterlife.
That's good. I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. First you deny that you have recieved the direct word of our Lord, then you deny that you follow all of the scripture. So where, exactly, are you getting these answers from? I do not believe you have been entirely forthcoming with the truth.
So far you have given us several reasons for your beliefs.
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I could have been good because of other values... Morals come from logic. The Bible puts them all together.
You told us you believed because it made you a better person, but you conceded that point.
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Science doesen't know. God does.
You believe in God because it offers a simple, convenient answer to the unknown. Your motivation for this belief is fear.
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Also I believe God controlls everything.
God controls everything. This prevents you from having to worry about what "could have been" or what you "might have done" had things gone differently, because they couldn't have gone differently with God in control. A belief in God is not necessary for a belief in predestination, in fact quite the opposite: God is required for a belief in free will.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-26 at 14:26:03
I didn't say that I heard the vioce of God. Yes, I don't follow all the rules.
By controlls I mean events, like rain, meteors falling on earth. Not your thoughts. But he has power over us through things he controlls, for example: you want to go to the shop to buy some milk. But unfortunatley, it doesen't happen because rain starts, you trip on mud, and while you were at home, putting on clean clothes, the shop closed.
If he had total controll, we would be puppets. Why would he punish things he controlls totally ?
Guys, as much as you may be smart, why do you try to proove someone's beliefs wrong ? If you are that smart, say this: "Let that stupid sheep follow waht he wants" (seriously, why should you argue with a blind man ?), and leave me the right to say the same thing to you. Even if you totally disproove everything I believe about God, I will still believe in him, because you can't proove/disproove one thing: the fact of his existance.
By controlls I mean events, like rain, meteors falling on earth. Not your thoughts. But he has power over us through things he controlls, for example: you want to go to the shop to buy some milk. But unfortunatley, it doesen't happen because rain starts, you trip on mud, and while you were at home, putting on clean clothes, the shop closed.
If he had total controll, we would be puppets. Why would he punish things he controlls totally ?
Guys, as much as you may be smart, why do you try to proove someone's beliefs wrong ? If you are that smart, say this: "Let that stupid sheep follow waht he wants" (seriously, why should you argue with a blind man ?), and leave me the right to say the same thing to you. Even if you totally disproove everything I believe about God, I will still believe in him, because you can't proove/disproove one thing: the fact of his existance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-07-26 at 14:29:59
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I didn't say that I heard the vioce of God. Yes, I don't follow all the rules.
So your belief is entirely subjective and unique to you alone.
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By controlls I mean events, like rain, meteors falling on earth. Not your thoughts. But he has power over us through things he controlls, for example: you want to go to the shop to buy some milk. But unfortunatley, it doesen't happen because rain starts, you trip on mud, and while you were at home, putting on clean clothes, the shop closed.
Why did you pick those things? Those are arbitrary events.
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If he had total control, we would be puppets. Why would he punish things he controlls totally?
Why indeed? God is not omnipotent.
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Guys, as much as you may be smart, why do you try to proove someone's beliefs wrong.
I don't care what you believe. I just want to know why.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-07-26 at 14:33:54
Some events, and some of my personality aspects together, made me think God exist
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-07-26 at 15:07:03
yup, also above too 
The person below me is v ery confused
The person below me is v ery confused
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-07-26 at 15:09:01
No, re-word that! and its psychic!
Does anyone know how to spell?
Does anyone know how to spell?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Varses on 2006-07-26 at 15:45:11
Greetings all, I'm new to these forums. (obviously)
Anyways I'm having some trouble with starcraft running on my computer. I started it up successfully once then I tried to get onto battle.net. It downloaded a patch and now whenever I try to start up starcraft again it gives me this error:
"Storm--SRgnGetRectsi" could not be found.
By the way I run starcraft on a mac.
Anyways I'm having some trouble with starcraft running on my computer. I started it up successfully once then I tried to get onto battle.net. It downloaded a patch and now whenever I try to start up starcraft again it gives me this error:
"Storm--SRgnGetRectsi" could not be found.
By the way I run starcraft on a mac.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-07-26 at 16:04:26
Email support@Blizzard.net. Wassup homes?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rikimbo on 2006-07-26 at 17:02:06
Well, I think that the poll given to the kindergarten kids has very little statistical meaning... It seems to me pretty obvious that if the kids were only given pictures, that of course the better looking picture would win it. It's kind of like a leading question, and makes a biased argument if you ask me. It's kind of like asking which is more appatizing, showing a picture of a whopper and a picture of a big mac, only the big mac is shown in a trash can and the whopper has an angelic halo.
Anyway, that's not the point.
Truth is, physical attractiveness and appeal are very influential factors for this kind of thing, and for everything in our society. There really is no way around it. When you first see a person, it is the only thing you can immediately use to judge this person. Even if you claim to be a sensitive person and look for deeper things, your first call when you meet a person for the first time will always be 'is this person attractive?' even though you may not want to admit it.
That said, I don't think parents should take the reins when it comes to that. Taking your car in for a paint job is ok; taking your kid over to the cosmetic surgeon is not. A car is a posession. A kid is a human life.
That's all I have to say. This has been my not-so-insightful two cents on the matter.
Anyway, that's not the point.
Truth is, physical attractiveness and appeal are very influential factors for this kind of thing, and for everything in our society. There really is no way around it. When you first see a person, it is the only thing you can immediately use to judge this person. Even if you claim to be a sensitive person and look for deeper things, your first call when you meet a person for the first time will always be 'is this person attractive?' even though you may not want to admit it.
That said, I don't think parents should take the reins when it comes to that. Taking your car in for a paint job is ok; taking your kid over to the cosmetic surgeon is not. A car is a posession. A kid is a human life.
That's all I have to say. This has been my not-so-insightful two cents on the matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-07-26 at 17:19:48
Your statistics are vague.
The percentages could represent a group as small as 20, and there are no pre-operation numbers.
Aside from that, I'm up in the air about this. On one hand, physical attributes are one of the main factors that set the stage for breeding, and humans with the gene for trisomy really have no business breeding. On the flip side, they're being forced into it, knowingly or not.
And let's not forget that retarded children are usually put in special education (cash drain lewlz) programs at a very young age, and thus are already separated from other children.
The percentages could represent a group as small as 20, and there are no pre-operation numbers.
Aside from that, I'm up in the air about this. On one hand, physical attributes are one of the main factors that set the stage for breeding, and humans with the gene for trisomy really have no business breeding. On the flip side, they're being forced into it, knowingly or not.
And let's not forget that retarded children are usually put in special education (cash drain lewlz) programs at a very young age, and thus are already separated from other children.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by StarKraft on 2006-07-26 at 17:21:12
What? 
The person below me is addicted to beans!
The person below me is addicted to beans!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rikimbo on 2006-07-26 at 17:23:24
Success in politics is always about pleasing people. The more people you please, the more popularity you have. And popularity is all you want, because popularity means majority vote. Bush put that veto in place because there are just too many people who are strongly against stem cell research. Those who are more open-minded or who do support it will never be as strong an angry and disruptive community as those who think it is immoral or that it goes against the will of God. Simply weighing both sides, it's easy to see why Bush has decided not to support stem cell research.
The main reason stem cell research is thought to be immoral is because it's thought to be synonymous to 'testing on humans.' The problem is how you define a human life. If it was commonly accepted that a bundle of stem cells or an embryon are not yet human lives, there would be no problem. But that's an ongoing debate...
This concept of a 'soul' that many religions have is a result of our misunderstanding of self-awareness. The truth is though, that the human body does not need a soul to function. Cloning a human is a scary topic because if it was successfully done, religion may interpret it as if we have artificially created a soul. This of course, would be an outrage in the religious community, because it advocates this idea of 'playing God,' not to mention challenging the existance of a 'soul' at all...
At any rate, I'm just putting my foot in my mouth and I haven't really said anything.
For the record, I'm always on the side of scientific development, exploration and experimentation. I am in no way against stem cell research, or even cloning, for that matter.
The main reason stem cell research is thought to be immoral is because it's thought to be synonymous to 'testing on humans.' The problem is how you define a human life. If it was commonly accepted that a bundle of stem cells or an embryon are not yet human lives, there would be no problem. But that's an ongoing debate...
This concept of a 'soul' that many religions have is a result of our misunderstanding of self-awareness. The truth is though, that the human body does not need a soul to function. Cloning a human is a scary topic because if it was successfully done, religion may interpret it as if we have artificially created a soul. This of course, would be an outrage in the religious community, because it advocates this idea of 'playing God,' not to mention challenging the existance of a 'soul' at all...
At any rate, I'm just putting my foot in my mouth and I haven't really said anything.
For the record, I'm always on the side of scientific development, exploration and experimentation. I am in no way against stem cell research, or even cloning, for that matter.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarckRedd on 2006-07-26 at 17:50:38
I agree with the sentiment that the theme is garbage. I already have an idea for a trash collector map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-07-26 at 17:52:54
QUOTE(Felagund @ Jul 26 2006, 12:45 AM)
All that matters is that we stay at the front of technological advancement. We still get the most patents on average a month, but I'm not really sure how long we'll retain that position (and that frightens me, unlike many people).
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The thing that's keeping the west on the top of technological advancement is the wars. Nothing like a good ol' war to motivate our inventors and entrepeneurs it making something useful.
I was watching formidable opponent on the Colbert Report last night and I saw a very good argument, it went somethnig like this.
Stephen1 - Alright, here's were it gets more complicated an issues. Say you're dieing.
Stephen2 - OH NO I'M DIEING?
Stephen1 - Yes, but there's a cure for the disease that you're dieing from.
Stephen2 - Ah good, shoot me up then.
Stephen1 - Here's the catch; The cure was developed through embryonic research.
Stephen2 - Why do you have to make this so hard?
Stephen1 - Well do you still want the cure?
Stephen2 - Well I guess.
Stephen1 - There, you're cured. But here's the catch, one of the embryos would've grown up to be a doctor that cured the disease without any need for embryonic research.
A good paradox, no?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kupo on 2006-07-26 at 17:53:51
I EAT CHICKEN!
welcome?
welcome?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-07-26 at 17:57:47
This theme wasn't that bad...
I had an idea for this, but as mentioned earlier, I suddenly got hooked into Naruto and just couldn't do anything else. But now that I finished watching all 194+ episodes, I can now get back into the sc world
I had an idea for this, but as mentioned earlier, I suddenly got hooked into Naruto and just couldn't do anything else. But now that I finished watching all 194+ episodes, I can now get back into the sc world
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Shattered_moose on 2006-07-26 at 18:04:23
Actually, that argument holds absolutely no water at all, seeing as just as easily one could argue that you saved the world, because one of those cells would have grown up to be an insane dicatator who caused a nuclear holocaust.
Whenever someone uses the argument of the embryo's potential, I cringe, as its so obviously illogical.
Oh, and echo, I would like to know where you are getting your information, seeing as stem cell research does indeed exist in the United States, as several state programs are funding embryonic stem cell research, and some private organizations based in the US are working on it as well. Also, would you care to explain to me how the research is immoral, seeing as it could save millions of lives, and improve the quality of life for many more. Also, I don't see where you get the idea that, if souls exist, embryonic stem cell research would create "bodies without souls", seeing as the research in its current form would result in massive medical advances, not cloning.
Whenever someone uses the argument of the embryo's potential, I cringe, as its so obviously illogical.
Oh, and echo, I would like to know where you are getting your information, seeing as stem cell research does indeed exist in the United States, as several state programs are funding embryonic stem cell research, and some private organizations based in the US are working on it as well. Also, would you care to explain to me how the research is immoral, seeing as it could save millions of lives, and improve the quality of life for many more. Also, I don't see where you get the idea that, if souls exist, embryonic stem cell research would create "bodies without souls", seeing as the research in its current form would result in massive medical advances, not cloning.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demon on 2006-07-26 at 18:06:16
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jul 26 2006, 04:57 PM)
This theme wasn't that bad...
I had an idea for this, but as mentioned earlier, I suddenly got hooked into Naruto and just couldn't do anything else. But now that I finished watching all 194+ episodes, I can now get back into the sc world
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I had an idea for this, but as mentioned earlier, I suddenly got hooked into Naruto and just couldn't do anything else. But now that I finished watching all 194+ episodes, I can now get back into the sc world
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What did you do, buy all the dvds?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by i-beat-u on 2006-07-26 at 18:09:46
nho
hav yoo evur eten a bigg tako?
hav yoo evur eten a bigg tako?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2006-07-26 at 18:17:48
Stem Cell Support
The above is an article detailing how stem cells... oh well, you can read about it yourself.
The above is an article detailing how stem cells... oh well, you can read about it yourself.