Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-08-04 at 13:18:08
Posting in other topics got me thinking about Space and Black Holes, I don't know too much about them, neither do scientists, but they say that if black holes do exist that there is a good chance that there are more than three dimensions. The three dimensions we see are like up-down, left-right, and front-back. If black holes exist there could be hidden dimensions that we dont know about in space. They are making a and I quote "Man-Made Black Holes" inside a type of chamber.
What they gave for steps for their experiment-
Step 1- Supermagnets in the 17-mile-long LHC accelerate two beams of protons to near light speed and point them on a collision coarse.
Step 2- Small extra dimensions--if they exist--appear when the protons get close together. In effect, they increase the force of gravity.
Step 3- Eventully the force of gravity between the protons becomes so strong that it forces quarks inside the colliding protons to coalesce.
Step 4- This merger collapses space-time and forms a minuscule black hole tens of thousands of times as small as a nucleus of an atom.
Step 5- The black hole nearly instantaneously disintergrates into a dozen or more different kinds of particles as a result of Hawking radiation.
Step 6- A 10-story-tall detector measures those particles as they blast from its center. Those from a black hole would create unique pattern.
What they gave for steps for their experiment-
Step 1- Supermagnets in the 17-mile-long LHC accelerate two beams of protons to near light speed and point them on a collision coarse.
Step 2- Small extra dimensions--if they exist--appear when the protons get close together. In effect, they increase the force of gravity.
Step 3- Eventully the force of gravity between the protons becomes so strong that it forces quarks inside the colliding protons to coalesce.
Step 4- This merger collapses space-time and forms a minuscule black hole tens of thousands of times as small as a nucleus of an atom.
Step 5- The black hole nearly instantaneously disintergrates into a dozen or more different kinds of particles as a result of Hawking radiation.
Step 6- A 10-story-tall detector measures those particles as they blast from its center. Those from a black hole would create unique pattern.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Protoss_Hero on 2006-08-04 at 13:18:32
First of all,the Big Bang Theory has some parts that has a connection to God if i'm correct,but that has to go down where that what you believe humans were created by dust and no it doesn't have connection to evolution.the atoms part i believe that before the big bang,there was another universe.that is probaly where the atoms were from and if there was another universe,there is might be another lifeform before us
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Protoss_Hero on 2006-08-04 at 13:22:28
have you been to arizona flagstaff?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-08-04 at 13:23:01
QUOTE(Protoss_Hero @ Aug 4 2006, 12:22 PM)
have you been to arizona flagstaff?
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No, whats so special about it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LeMerovingian on 2006-08-04 at 13:23:24
Humans have a programmed capacity for religion. It has existed throughout the ages, even when the voice of reason seems to trump it. I think this is partially out of laziness, for if we can just attribute everything we don't understand to some supreme deity, we never have to figure things out for ourselves. Whatever.
Anyway, "Armageddon" has somewhat of a religious connotation. If we use the word in one of its original definitions, the battle between Satan and the corrupt, and God and the faithful, then it is an event of which we would in all likelihood receive no warning.
Personally, if this Armageddon sceneario takes place, being a man, I prefer the muslim views of paradisal life after death. After all, who could refuse an eternal existance with seven virgins? It's definitely better than having sex with your girlfriend a few hourse before you're all ashes. And hey...with any luck, she may be among your seven.
Anyway, "Armageddon" has somewhat of a religious connotation. If we use the word in one of its original definitions, the battle between Satan and the corrupt, and God and the faithful, then it is an event of which we would in all likelihood receive no warning.
Personally, if this Armageddon sceneario takes place, being a man, I prefer the muslim views of paradisal life after death. After all, who could refuse an eternal existance with seven virgins? It's definitely better than having sex with your girlfriend a few hourse before you're all ashes. And hey...with any luck, she may be among your seven.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2006-08-04 at 13:24:21
Welcome to Staredit Network. Do not take any of the kiwis from any member because they have been tampered with.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-08-04 at 13:26:26
I Probally wont be here so it doesn't matter to me.[/religion]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Protoss_Hero on 2006-08-04 at 13:30:02
there's an observatory up there called Lowell,and for 7-7's question,he can find the answer to the question.and 7-7,if youre reading this,go to arizona flagstaff,find the observatory up there on a hill,once get inside,turn left to a bookstore,there is a book called,From Blue Moons to Black Holes.in that book,there a bunch of FAQ on a lot of stuffs about space
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-08-04 at 13:30:08
QUOTE(Protoss_Hero @ Aug 4 2006, 01:22 PM)
have you been to arizona flagstaff?
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No I havent and what would this have to do with what I wrote about?
Also they are going to do this experiment in late 2007.
Question and Answer I saw in the book I got all this info from.
Why Extra Dimensions?
They could reconcile the major theories of the 20th century: quantum mechanics (the physics of the very small) and general relitivity (the physics of spacetime). Without extra dimensions, quantum mechanics implies that gravity should be much stronger than it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-08-04 at 13:31:30
The world doesnt know crap about the black hole. No one ever gone through it, near it, or touched it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-08-04 at 13:32:09
QUOTE(LeMerovingian @ Aug 4 2006, 12:23 PM)
Humans have a programmed capacity for religion. It has existed throughout the ages, even when the voice of reason seems to trump it. I think this is partially out of laziness, for if we can just attribute everything we don't understand to some supreme deity, we never have to figure things out for ourselves. Whatever.
Anyway, "Armageddon" has somewhat of a religious connotation. If we use the word in one of its original definitions, the battle between Satan and the corrupt, and God and the faithful, then it is an event of which we would in all likelihood receive no warning.
Personally, if this Armageddon sceneario takes place, being a man, I prefer the muslim views of paradisal life after death. After all, who could refuse an eternal existance with seven virgins? It's definitely better than having sex with your girlfriend a few hourse before you're all ashes. And hey...with any luck, she may be among your seven.
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Anyway, "Armageddon" has somewhat of a religious connotation. If we use the word in one of its original definitions, the battle between Satan and the corrupt, and God and the faithful, then it is an event of which we would in all likelihood receive no warning.
Personally, if this Armageddon sceneario takes place, being a man, I prefer the muslim views of paradisal life after death. After all, who could refuse an eternal existance with seven virgins? It's definitely better than having sex with your girlfriend a few hourse before you're all ashes. And hey...with any luck, she may be among your seven.
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Thats Judgement Day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-08-04 at 13:35:43
But that's what I'm doing...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-04 at 13:40:12
QUOTE(7-7 @ Aug 4 2006, 08:17 PM)
but they say that if black holes do exist that there is a good chance that there are more than three dimensions.
Black Holes do exist. Our galaxy, for example has a huge Black Hole in it's center.
We life in a 4 dimension world. The 4th one (dimension) is time-space. (Einstein)
QUOTE(7-7 @ Aug 4 2006, 08:17 PM)
Step 1- Supermagnets in the 17-mile-long LHC accelerate two beams of protons to near light speed and point them on a collision coarse.
Step 2- Small extra dimensions--if they exist--appear when the protons get close together. In effect, they increase the force of gravity.
Step 3- Eventully the force of gravity between the protons becomes so strong that it forces quarks inside the colliding protons to coalesce.
Step 4- This merger collapses space-time and forms a minuscule black hole tens of thousands of times as small as a nucleus of an atom.
Step 5- The black hole nearly instantaneously disintergrates into a dozen or more different kinds of particles as a result of Hawking radiation.
Step 6- A 10-story-tall detector measures those particles as they blast from its center. Those from a black hole would create unique pattern.
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Step 2- Small extra dimensions--if they exist--appear when the protons get close together. In effect, they increase the force of gravity.
Step 3- Eventully the force of gravity between the protons becomes so strong that it forces quarks inside the colliding protons to coalesce.
Step 4- This merger collapses space-time and forms a minuscule black hole tens of thousands of times as small as a nucleus of an atom.
Step 5- The black hole nearly instantaneously disintergrates into a dozen or more different kinds of particles as a result of Hawking radiation.
Step 6- A 10-story-tall detector measures those particles as they blast from its center. Those from a black hole would create unique pattern.
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How can you accelerate beams of photons to near light speed if they are traveling at the speed of light already ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EcHo on 2006-08-04 at 13:41:13
Where is the scientists getting their theory from? Did they ever go near it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-08-04 at 13:47:47
he said protons not photons
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Varses on 2006-08-04 at 13:49:16
Just because multiple places around the world have been attacked doesn't make a world war. To me a world war requires actualy contries fighting against each other, not just lots of small terrorist groups striking countries.
The real reason why I don't think we're going to have a world war is because of the fall of nationalism. I am an American and, personally, I despise some of the actions our country has taken since September 11. It's not because I hate my country, it's because I do not have fervent patriotism in my country as the best on earth, a form of nationalism. As globalism replaces nationalism, fewer battles will be fought between countries and more between factions of ideologies.
The real reason why I don't think we're going to have a world war is because of the fall of nationalism. I am an American and, personally, I despise some of the actions our country has taken since September 11. It's not because I hate my country, it's because I do not have fervent patriotism in my country as the best on earth, a form of nationalism. As globalism replaces nationalism, fewer battles will be fought between countries and more between factions of ideologies.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-08-04 at 13:50:23
QUOTE(Mini_Boobs_2707 @ Aug 4 2006, 01:31 PM)
The world doesnt know crap about the black hole. No one ever gone through it, near it, or touched it
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If someone were to go through a black hole, they would be stuck at the point of there death forever. People on the outside of the black hole would be able to still see the person inside (frozen) even after the death of the person inside. Because black holes freeze space time. (4th dimension) but there has to be more than just 4 for black holes to still exist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-08-04 at 14:03:42
but black holes suck in light also...so you couldnt see the person
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-04 at 14:08:35
QUOTE(Do-0dan @ Aug 4 2006, 08:47 PM)
he said protons not photons
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Sorry, my bad
QUOTE(Mini_Boobs_2707 @ Aug 4 2006, 08:40 PM)
Where is the scientists getting their theory from? Did they ever go near it?
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Einstein prooved Black Holes to exist on paper a long time ago. They were found relatively not so long ago.
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QUOTE(7-7 @ Aug 4 2006, 08:50 PM)
If someone were to go through a black hole, they would be stuck at the point of there death forever. People on the outside of the black hole would be able to still see the person inside (frozen) even after the death of the person inside.
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Do you think before you post ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CAFG4reals on 2006-08-04 at 14:11:54
QUOTE(lonely_duck @ Aug 3 2006, 10:27 PM)
Many scientists do believe in some type of divine creator or something(and I'm not talking about creationists either).
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ROFLROFLROFL
woah woah woah, this just jumped out at me. I need to set the record straight. Most of the scientists that believe in ID come from Discovery Institute, a place that gets gizilions of dollars from the rightcheous right to research objectively. guess how many scientists support ID there? 500. "wow thats alot!" No no its not. The AAAS, the largest association of scientists in the U.S., has 120,000 members, and they ALL firmly reject ID. Oh and theres more, lots more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scien...elligent_design
Where did I get this blasphemus liberal garbage?as neutral as it gets
If it wasnt for P.O.D. and their retarded forums, these ridiculous ideas wouldnt be so main stream.
now whats next on the list to debunk?
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A mod or sum1 needs to split this topic in half. 1 for philosophical debate and the other for science.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Protoss_Hero on 2006-08-04 at 14:12:44
maybe if we got the technology,we can find more planets like Earth
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-08-04 at 14:15:33
QUOTE(Snipe @ Aug 4 2006, 09:19 AM)
account such as illies won't be affect. I'm sure sooner or later they will find a way to delete the accounts but until then, there safe. NIce account btw.
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Ah. I understand now. I realized it was about name spoofers soon after I posted it. But, I've had that account for many years now. I thought it was dying, so I had to install my Diablo II and log on my accounts to keep them active (I don't have StarCraft no more.)
I think I lost `BiG~kAhOoNa` on East though. West it's still alive. But who needs East anyways?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-04 at 14:46:36
I will not show you the Egg Song. (Voy, don't do it this time !)
Hello.
Hello.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-08-04 at 15:09:56
The new player colors are actually growing on me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-08-04 at 15:24:04
Whatever you do new member don't double post.