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Report, edit, etc...Posted by ZPD on 2005-06-21 at 15:35:15
QUOTE(Vampire @ Jun 21 2005, 01:57 PM)
All I can tell you is that there is a total of 8 people that have this hack, I will not exchange their names for the privacy reasons but I can tell you that all the people that have it can be trusted and the hack will not be spread over the battle.net.
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That's not the point. People can figure out how this is done. I already believe I know how it was done. It won't be too long before people make their own versions of the hack. it's not whether it will be leaked or not. people know how this si done, and people will figure it out. That's one of the reasons why this is becomeing such widepread information in other communities; it could spread very easily, and it most likely will.

However, there is the possbility that it will not spread widely. I never saw any threads about trying to get people off Battl.net when name spoofing came out, or map hacks. The only problem with this is that it impacts the game a lot more then a map hack.

Interesting discovery Deathknight, I worship your mad programming skills, people should stop trying to pin him as an evil player who is trying to kill Battle.net, I hope this doesn't spread although it likely will, at least to some extent. All we can do is hope Blizzard fixes this or that the general populace of malicious StarCraft hackers can't figure out what the hell happened to do this.

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im with aperape, no matter how you look at this, this is your fault deathknight
You can't blame plane crashes on Issac Newton because he discovered gravity. We'll see how things play out in the next few weeks.

~Zerg Playing Dead, a member coming back from the grave even though his account died somehow, tongue.gif.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-06-21 at 15:44:46
ZPD, that was very nicely said. And that should shut the n00bs up that just want to come in and spam up the forums.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2005-06-21 at 15:46:47
its not deathknights fault guys, its all the people who decide to use it afterwards. anybody else could have figured it out, not just deathknight. and its just a game, not a real life crisis. if somebody uses the what ever it is in a game then just leave the game and save the replay and send it to blizzard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-06-21 at 15:46:50
Holy Shit!

I just realized that you are Zerg playing Dead. I was always wondering what happened to you. l)ark2004 if you remember me. You helped me a few times with my many noobish questions! I've filannly grown up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PsykoticNin on 2005-06-21 at 15:47:11
that's quite a comparison you're making there zpd even though you're off by a mile

issac explains law of gravity -- planes crash, accidents
deathknight shows hack off -- hackers work towards obtaining this newly announced hack which would ruin sc for the time being

im not trying to rag on deathknight for the replay and hack but im saying this is ultimately his fault and i dont get why people are making him out to be such a pity case..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kingra on 2005-06-21 at 15:48:18
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im with aperape, no matter how you look at this, this is your fault deathknight

by the way kingra, im napier and for those two people that joined i just said "  YOU" and banned them
you wernt the ones that joined so how would you know i was "pissed" cuz no on joined.. moron


Oh so you're banning them and coming into the server saying "faggots" because you kicked them from the game?

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and thanks for kickin me from Op sen deathknight.. seeing as all this is your fault and your kickin everyone for supposedly releasing the hack. You might as well quit sc if thats the case cuz you spread all this news about the hack and im sure no matter how good you are at keeping secrets (which your not) there will be individuals who will figure out, if not try, this hack because of all the news surrounding it now. thanks


He kicked you because he doesn't want anyone else to have the hack, idiot. He didn't spread the news, Aperape did.
If you think it's funny to pretend to have the "hack", don't go blaming him for kicking you about that either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-06-21 at 15:50:20
QUOTE(PsykoticNin @ Jun 21 2005, 11:47 AM)
that's quite a comparison you're making there zpd even though you're off by a mile
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Nin, he is exactly right(ZPD). You are portraying DK as some malicious asshole. When in reality he just explores things that go a little deeper. Hence is site "Glitch Factor".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ZPD on 2005-06-21 at 15:51:53
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that's quite a comparison you're making there zpd even though you're off by a mile
It is a comparison, which is why it's not accurate. Who blames Issac Newton for plane crashes? No one!, yet he discovered what causes them. That doesn't mean he is to blame. That's the comparison I'm making. if this does spread, we shouldn't turn against Deathknight and say "0mfg get off t3h enternets u h4x0r u r teh screwed battl;enet" Peolpe will still play, even if this does spread. naturally, people will eventually grow bored of using such a program. Accounts doing this repetatively will be banned. Blizzard may or may not take further action such as making a patch. The moral is don't target Deathknight for this, it's stupid and gains you nothing trying to demoralise him for this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-06-21 at 15:54:43
It'll be better if I say this now: If anyone posts the smallest hint of how to do this, they will be suspended and there is a possibility on getting banned.

Those 8 people that supposedly know how to do this hack. I don't trust all of them. Why do I say this? Because one of them told 2 others without DK's knowing.

The other day I was in a game with DK and a couple of other people. DK was showing me the "hack" and then several other people started doing it as well. DK said: "How did you figure did out?" One of them replied: "This person told me".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PsykoticNin on 2005-06-21 at 15:55:22
yes kingra thats what im doing.. so what? is it as bad as revealing a hack to the public on bnet instead of private or lan games? i find it funny that even though people are against this hack they still want to have it. So i created a game and yes people did join looking for the hack so i said " censored.gif YOU" and banned them. i dont see what the problem is here. Yes its immature but are you going to bitch at me for that? im sure theres no articles out there on my immaturity.. heh neways..

no he didnt spread the news but he was the cause of it.. im saying ultimately he is at fault not aperape..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-21 at 15:56:21
QUOTE(PsykoticNin @ Jun 21 2005, 03:47 PM)
that's quite a comparison you're making there zpd even though you're off by a mile

issac explains law of gravity -- planes crash, accidents
deathknight shows hack off -- hackers work towards obtaining this newly announced hack which would ruin sc for the time being

im not trying to rag on deathknight for the replay and hack but im saying this is ultimately his fault and i dont get why people are making him out to be such a pity case..
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I don't listen to people who don't capitalize the first letters in a sentence, sorry!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2005-06-21 at 15:56:51
Also if I remember correctly ApeRape is an ass, I think wesmic can back me up on that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PsykoticNin on 2005-06-21 at 15:57:51
i dont give a shit about my punctuation and guys that like warhammer biggrin.gif

im not portraying deathknight as anything, im stating it as i see it
he banned me so i gave him my thoughts on it and said wtf
like everyone else i voiced my opinion on this matter.. nothin personal really

jesus i got the grammer police on my ass, find another hobby will ya
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-06-21 at 15:58:23
ApeRape is an idiot. He'll do anything to sink SEN...

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-21 at 15:58:43
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i dont give a shit about my punctuation and guys that like warhammer  biggrin.gif
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Or bad english.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2005-06-21 at 15:59:12
blaming dk is like saying that the person who invented cars is to blame for car crashes.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PsykoticNin on 2005-06-21 at 16:01:50
NO ITS NOT..
the purpose of the invention of cars/planes is not to disrupt society but to enhance it. hacks are made to disrupt.. bah

maybe the accidental invention of the atombic bomb would be a better comparison
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-21 at 16:02:36
No, hes breaking the limits of starcraft. Cars broke the limits of speed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ZPD on 2005-06-21 at 16:03:07
You should have seen the topics when Yoshi left in October, wink.gif. People are natueally interested because this could screw up many melee games; and also UMS maps. Any UMS map could be screwed up if people build to units they aren't suppose to have. I wonder if disabling units for those players would help.

Anyways, this is unfortunate but it isn't the end of the world, or of StarCraft. Blizzard is probbably reading topics like this and thinking "Oh crap, not another bloody StarCraft issue!" But whether Blizzard does anything or not, it will not matter in the long run. How many of the people here will leave StarCraft on Battle.net if they see these kinds of occurences starting to happen a little more frequently? I know I'm not leaving for something as controversial as that.

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maybe the accidental invention of the atombic bomb would be a better comparison
Yes, that's a good one. But were the creators of it trying to ruin the world? The atomic bomb was researched into because of the possbility of making bombs that could decimate cities. In World War 2, that was a serious possibilty to try to stop Germany from taking over, or Germany creating them first. But overall, the scientists in the project weren't cruel hearted trying to ruin everything. Neither was Deathknight.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PsykoticNin on 2005-06-21 at 16:03:51
um you're the ones making these big comparisons of invention of cars, planes and isaac newtons law of gravity to this, not me. I'm simply adding on to it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2005-06-21 at 16:04:36
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NO ITS NOT..
the purpose of the invention of cars/planes is not to disrupt society but to enhance it. hacks are made to disrupt.. bah

that was a bad comparison, but when DK invented this he didnt mean to spread it and ruin sc or make it public or anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-06-21 at 16:05:49
Its eventually going to get out. Yes, I will do everything I can to make sure that it never reaches here. It isn't classified as a harmless glitch (such as float a drone, crush a tank, etc), and no, I never did or never will approve of 3rd party software to gain unfair advantages in gameplay.

My stance is, its bad, but the community shouldn't be so harsh on deathknight. He may have screwed up, but he may have been just trying it, etc. I don't know the exact details on this, it could very well be a glitch.

As for the discussion on the Licence agreement, Xtra Editor, SCMdraft, Starforge, BWscanner, Proedit, modding tools, and all those those things we take for granted in the community, can be considered a breach of that Licence agreement we all accepted. However, our intentions with it are not to ruin the game or unbalence it, but more to have fun as a whole. You don't see people disagreeing with these programs, because we all know they are generally harmless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-21 at 16:05:55
Psykoticnon doesnt know what he's talking about. You think DK is trying to destroy starcraft?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PsykoticNin on 2005-06-21 at 16:06:42
im sure he didnt but this is the result of carelessness
neways i dont care as long as i can resume playing the occasional melee without fearing hacks im fine and im sure blizzard will address this issue soon

no.. did i write anything about him destroying starcraft? NO
and i know exactly what im talking about, do you?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2005-06-21 at 16:11:37
it was leaked i think. someone posted on (REMOVED) that gave a major hint on how to do it i think.
Edit: i am about 70% sure im wrong
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