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Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-10-22 at 19:46:40
QUOTE(GodDidIt @ Oct 22 2005, 11:32 AM)
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512
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and how does that pertain to this topic?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-22 at 19:55:30
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and how does that pertain to this topic?


You need to think harder.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-24 at 11:56:55
QUOTE(GodDidIt @ Oct 22 2005, 04:55 PM)
You need to think harder.
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Maybe if you explained what you are posting and why you are posting it, people would be able to understand your argument.

And you say you debate well?

Now i'm going to show the ignorance of these ECFR:
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"Let's take a look at the evidence," said ECFR senior fellow Gregory Lunsden."In Matthew 15:14, Jesus says, 'And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.' He says nothing about some gravity making them fall—just that they will fall. Then, in Job 5:7, we read, 'But mankind is born to trouble, as surely as sparks fly upwards.' If gravity is pulling everything down, why do the sparks fly upwards with great surety? This clearly indicates that a conscious intelligence governs all falling."


This is hillarious. No where does it say that if they fall, there is no gravity, or since sparks fly upwards, there is no gravity. People blow things to far out of proportion.

My views on these two scripters are, If you have a blind man lead a blind man, they will both fail at helping eachother, thus they will "fall" or "fail" at what they are trying to accomplish. And, "sparks fly upward". Everything that has an action, has a reaction. And from reading this article, it seems like they are to stupid to realise this.

P.S. Apparently, they cannot comprehend Quantom Physics, either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-24 at 17:27:35
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Maybe if you explained what you are posting and why you are posting it, people would be able to understand your argument.


Maybe you should think harder.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-24 at 20:23:34
Isn't that Argumentum ad hominem abusive?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by VizuaL on 2005-10-24 at 22:03:43
Starts off in Serious Discussion, ends up in Null ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-24 at 22:04:55
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 24 2005, 08:23 PM)
Isn't that Argumentum ad hominem abusive?
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Ya okay. rolleyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-10-26 at 18:55:14
QUOTE(Atreyu) @ Sep 20 2005, 07:35 PM)
even though there is probably no "chaos cloud" were probably screwed around 2012 over some astroid invasion type of thing...gay huh?
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That's from the "Bible Code" program on history channel, I wouldn't worry about it until it happens and anyway, the asteroid is planned to miss earth by around a few million miles, but if it did hit us we'd have about 100 megatons of dynamite killing us. That was just to make you feel better.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-10-30 at 07:06:44
I dont really like the 100 megatons of dynamyte idea. i think we should just nuke that thing before it comes here ending in a meteor shower.... a very deadly one but at least we wont be screwed as bad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-10-30 at 12:19:28
If we nuke it all the tiny pieces would burn up in the atmosphere so there would be a meteor shower like you see in the newspapers telling you to say out tonight.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-10-30 at 12:27:09
Maybe I should invest in a new house on Mars smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-10-30 at 15:42:59
Not all of the peices will burn up. a nuke wont evenly distribute the meteor so that they are all small. you have to admit that there will be some huge chunks that will come.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-10-30 at 17:04:42
To actually nuke an asteriod to bits, you would have to build a nuke big enough to detsroy the planet as we know it. Besides asteriods isn't the thing you need to worry about we got plans to get rid of those, instead you should be worried about comets (eeek fear.gif ).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2005-10-30 at 18:12:25
all we need to worry about is one knocking the planet out of orbit and goin into the sun.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mayhem on 2005-10-30 at 21:34:18
Ya i dont think we should worry bout astroids
But i seriously think we might exsaust the earth
of that it has to give us
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-10-30 at 22:24:22
While the occurence is unlikely, there is nothing we could do should and asteroid decide to head at us.

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..people didn't believe meteorites were dangerous so:

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Conveniently, a natural test of the theory arose when the Shoemakers and Levy discovered that Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, which they soon realised was headed for Jupiter. For the first time, humans would be able to witness a cosmic collision - and witness it very well thanks to the new Hubble space telescope. Most astronomers, according to Curtis Peebles, expected little, particularly as the comet was not a coherent sphere, but a string of twenty-one fragments. "My sense," wrote one, "is that Jupiter will swallow these comets up without so much as a bump." One week before the impact, Nature ran an article, "The Big Fizzle is Coming," predicting that the impact would constitute nothing more than a meteor shower.

The impacts began on July 16, 1994, went on for a week, and were bigger by far than anyone - with the possible exception of Gene Shoemaker - expected. One fragment, known as Nucleus G, struck with the force of about six thousand gigatons - seventy-five times more than all the nuclear weaponry in existence. Nucleus G was only about the size of a small mountain, but it created wounds in the Jovian surface the size of Earth...

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I asked [Anderson and Witzke] how much warning we would receive if a similar hunk of rock was coming toward us today.
"Oh, probably none," said Anderson breezily. "It wouldn't be visible to the naked eye until it warmed up, and that wouldn't happen until it hit the atmosphere, which would be about one second before it hit Earth. You're talking about something that is moving many tens of times faster than the fastest bullet. Unless it had been seen by someone with a telescope, and that's by no means a certainty, it would take us completely by surprise."

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An asteroid or comet travelling at cosmic velocities would enter the Earth's atmosphere at such a speed that the air beneath it couldn't get out of the way and would be compressed, as in a bicycle pump. As anyone who has used such a pump knows, compressed air grows swiftly hot, and the temperature below it would rise to some 60,000 Kelvin, or ten times the surface temperature of the sun. In this instant of its arrival in our atmosphere, everything in the meteors path-people, houses, factories, cars-would crinkle and vanish like cellophane in a flame.

One second after entering the atmosphere, the meteorite would slam into Earth's surface, where the people of Manson had a moment before been going about their business. The meteorite itself would vaporize instantly, but the blast would blow out a thousand cubic kilometers of rock, earth, and superheated gases. Every living thing within 150 miles that hadn't been killed in the heat of entry would now be killed by the blast. Radiating outward at almost the speed of light would be the initial shockwave, sweeping everything before it.

For those outside the zone of immediate devastation, the first inkling of catastrophe would be a flash of blinding light-the brightest ever seen by human eyes-followed an instant to a minute or two later by and apocalyptic sight of unimaginable grandeur: a roiling wall of darkness reaching high into the heavens, filling an entire field of view and traveling at thousands of miles an hour. Its approach would be eerily silent because it would be moving far beyond the speed of sound. Anyone in a tall building in Omaha or Des Moines, say, who chanced to look in the right direction would see a bewildering veil of turmoil followed by instantaneous oblivion.

Within minutes, over an area stretching from Denver to Detroit and encompassing what had once been Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, the Twin Cities-the whole of the Midwest, in short-nearly every standing thing would be flattened or on fire, and nearly every living thing would be dead. People up to a thousand miles away would be knocked off their feet and sliced or clobbered by a blizzard of flying projectiles. Beyond a thousand miles, the devastation from the blast would gradually diminish.

But that's just the initial shockwave. No one can do more than guess what the associated damage would be, other than it would be brisk and global. The impact would almost certainly set off a chain of devastating earthquakes. Volcanoes across the globe would begin to rumble and spew. Tsunamis would rise up and head devastatingly for distant shores. Within an hour, a cloud of blackness would cover the planet, and burning rock and other debris would be pelting down everywhere, setting much of the planet ablaze. It has been estimated that at least a billion and a half people would be dead at the end of the first day. The massive disturbances to the ionosphere would knock out communications systems everywhere, so survivors would have no idea what was happening elsewhere or where to turn.

... etc, the climate would be cooled and poor growing seasons would result for up to 10,000 years...

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We can't send people to it, we don't have any rockets powerful enough to send man as far as the moon. The last, Saturn 5 was retired years ago.

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Even if we did manage somehow to get a warhead to the asteroid and blasted it to pieces, the chances are we would simply turn it into a string of rocks that would slam into us one after the other in the manner of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 on Jupiter-but with the difference that the rocks would now be intensely radioactive. Tom Gehrels, an asteroid hunter at the University of Arizona, thinks that even a year's warning would be insufficient to take appropriate action. The greater likelihood, however, is that we wouldn't see any object-even a comet-until it was about six months away, which would be much too late. Shoemaker-Levy 9 had been orbiting Jupiter in a fairly conspicuous manner since 1929, but it took over half a century before anyone noticed.


--A Short History of Nearly Everything, by Bill Bryson (2003)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-10-30 at 22:30:00
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I wouldn't call it short.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-10-30 at 22:30:59
When it sums up the entire history of scientific discovery (nearly everything), 616 pages is pretty short.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-10-31 at 00:20:35
There are different plans to use nukes against asteroids, but it takes many years. Also the only asteriod found that will hit us is in the 29th centuary so that should bring a little comfort; though they might have not found one that is closer to hit us so... Anyways, again I bring up that comets are the ones to fear most, since you cannot see them until they are only a few years away from Earth.


Nitpick: meteorites ARE harmless, since they are meteors/meteoroids that have already landed on Earth.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-10-31 at 18:37:13
If we don't have the technology to stop/avoid getting hit by an asteroid in the future then we don't deserve to be around then tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-10-31 at 20:17:28
This is one of the few posts I actually agree with him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-11-01 at 08:21:11
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To actually nuke an asteriod to bits, you would have to build a nuke big enough to detsroy the planet as we know it. Besides asteriods isn't the thing you need to worry about we got plans to get rid of those, instead you should be worried about comets (eeek  ).


Well, that particular nuke has been around for, oh, twenty years. The blueprints anyhow. They just never decided to build it because it would actually blow about 1/4 of the planet away and the rest of it stayed in one piece, there would be volcanoes, etc. and our planet would be knocked straight out of orbit.

Great, huh?
It's nice to know what our tax money goes into.
Although it would effectively send a meteor flying in the other direction...

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Plus, think of how screwed our planet would be without Jupiter. That thing sucks up most everything that comes flying our way.

I say we forget God and worship Jupiter as the Protector of all Life. w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-01 at 09:53:50
Why does it seem like every day our world is closer to dying.
I mean after hearing this, it doesn't seem like it is that hard to destroy the earth smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mayhem on 2005-11-01 at 11:38:34
Ya the earth is vounerablle to many things n thats y soo many pppl are afraid of the end of the planet we call earth
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-11-01 at 11:42:18
But hopefully I won't be around to see the end.
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