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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-09-27 at 10:50:12
QUOTE(Ego @ Sep 27 2005, 09:39 AM)
haha, the censor is awesome
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lol, I've laughed cause of it. Blam cracks me up too sometimes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Killa_04 on 2005-09-28 at 23:55:43
Sadly at my school last year we had a record for 2 kids commiting suicide. 1 of them happened to be very popular person. Most of us tend to think of suicides for the worthless people, but the kid who commited suicide I knew he seemed totaly happy. He'd go to parties every other day and was never lonely and probably could get the girl he wanted if he tried hard enough. Very good student as well. It shocked all of us he of all people would commit suicide. The other was slightly more stereotypical since he wasn't the happiest guy. If people do commit suicide, more than their end happens, it depresses everyone else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-09-29 at 03:00:09
We get a lot more suicides than anywhere else. (We = Alaska) Basically because we don't have any sunlight half the year, it gets sorta depressing.
You wake up, its pitch black, you go to school, where you can see the sun rise and set at the same time around 1 pm. Then you go home in the dark.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-10-04 at 16:57:39
Rantent lives in Alaska?! LOL!

I hate depression. I sometimes get them, or If I go to a concert or dance, someplace where there's a great density of people and usually inside, I get depressed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 17:03:03
It's the Empathy man.. Stay away! lol

I get depressed. It sucks ass
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-10-04 at 17:39:59

I used to get depressed, and then i stopped caring.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SirhcTheForbidden on 2005-10-04 at 18:55:45
Actually, I have a friend about to suicide in the next days. He keep saying I'm the only one still keeping him alive (basicaly, he puts all his trust un humanity, in me. Boner. Don't ever let anyone do this to you). His parents won't help him (serisouly, I didn't think it was possible either), professionnals cannot do anything for him (he already consulted like... 3 times), he has no friends, he cannot go back to school (or more like, he doesn't want to... long story), he can't get a job... Etc, you see the portrait; the usual depressive guy.

I gave up on him. It's just pissing me off to try to get a guy up, and he keeps putting himself down, saying death is the only solution. God, if you hate life so much, just kill yourself already... Don't try to depress as many people around as possible before doing it.

Or I don't know... Go kill a bunch of people before doing it. Now it'd be worth it. Who cares anyway, he'll be dead.

It's a part of life. Gotta live with it! Sigh...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-04 at 19:59:15
:censored:slap him in the face and tell him to get over himself.

Tell him you're sick of his chronic depressive state and you refuse to be his friend any longer until he :censored:ing grows up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by synd][cate on 2005-10-04 at 20:10:04
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Oct 4 2005, 06:59 PM)
:censored:slap him in the face and tell him to get over himself.

Tell him you're sick of his chronic depressive state and you refuse to be his friend any longer until he :censored:ing grows up.
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lol sigh.. when you say blam like this it makes me think you have't gone through depression at all .. even though you claim you have. If you knew depression at all you would understand depression is not something you "get over" or snap out of.

The best thing you could do is try and improve his quality of life and be the best friend you could even if it causes you little problems in your own life. If you ever helped him get out of his current state he would thank you for the rest of his life.. but no your life is too god damn pretty for some depressed kid to be messing it up. Aren't you special.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SirhcTheForbidden on 2005-10-04 at 20:44:17
I AM going to see him this weekend in a futile attempt to show him he's not the actual @$$(*@# friend he think he is... Coupled with the several other attempts of before. (he kinda lives farther away. Not a walk-long.)

You can't help it, though, it gets depressing even on your own life. And there are parents and a girlfriend out there actually SEEING the difference on my face cuz he's trying to drag me along his depression or something... Not fun to watch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-10-04 at 21:06:23
Heh, I'm so cynical, so I don't trust humanity to prove anything other than it's stupidity. That's part of the reason I stay not depressed. I am so cynical.

Queer though, I'm cynical and optimistic tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-05 at 01:17:49
QUOTE(synd][cate @ Oct 4 2005, 05:10 PM)
lol sigh.. when you say blam like this it makes me think you have't gone through depression at all .. even though you claim you have.  If you knew depression at all you would understand depression is not something you "get over" or snap out of. 

The best thing you could do is try and improve his quality of life and be the best friend you could even if it causes you little problems in your own life.  If you ever helped him get out of his current state he would thank you for the rest of his life.. but no your life is too god damn pretty for some depressed kid to be messing it up.  Aren't you special.
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It's called, Reverse Psychology. It worked on me.

It may work on him or not. I was just giving the guy an idea of how to knock some sense into him that everything will be alright.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FrAZ428 on 2005-10-05 at 05:44:40
QUOTE(SirhcTheForbidden @ Oct 4 2005, 06:55 PM)
I gave up on him. It's just pissing me off to try to get a guy up, and he keeps putting himself down, saying death is the only solution. God, if you hate life so much, just kill yourself already... Don't try to depress as many people around as possible before doing it.
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Are you positive the suicide part isn't just a facade to evoke lots of attention? It often is. It's also incredibly selfish. Maybe you should be a bit more concise and harsh... Then he might just listen better........ Idk. Too may unknown variables.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SirhcTheForbidden on 2005-10-05 at 10:20:24
Well, I doubt it, since he already has all the attention he wants, being a big mouth. Always speaking. That's what I like about him: You don't need to be saying anything since he'll do all the damn work! Wonder. He also used to go to realist medieval meetings (D&D kinda thingy, except with plastic swords and such), but he doesn't anymore... For some reason. He also used to teach archery. But. Dunno. He stopped.

I'll clarify a couple of things:

- He never had any "real" friends until he was like... 15 or 16 (can you say: Childhood traumatism?).
- He already went 2 (or 3) times to see a psychologist, and he states they never found anything wrong with him.
- He used to pick fights all the time. It's the only way he could surevive, back then, at his school filled with bums and retarded freaks (the kind of school where NOT having a weapon is asking to get killed. And no, it wasn't a ghetto school).
- He also states he already tried to commit suicide at least 20 times...
- He used to be a junkie (stopped when he came back to college, the same college which he was banned from later, since he was a bit dislexic).
- His family apparently do not have any clue of his current state of mind (which is the case of most suicidal people anyway, so scratch this one).
- The only girl he trully loved left him (saying she needed time to think about their relationship). 2 days later, she was with another guy. Bang. HEAD SHOT!
- His parents are, apparently, keeping him in the house (which he calls a prison). He can barely ask to get out to see friends (the few he still has), and they won't drive him anywhere else (he got a car, but failed his exam 3 times, up to now).


I think that's all there need to be. Reverse psychology is only like Aspirins: It does okay for the next few hours (days, in this case), but after that, he's just re-falling in the dark pit.

He's actually a good author (for texts, at least), but won't get to admit he is good (or do anything to start a publishing process going). He sucks more at poems, but, eh; here's 1 of them (badly written, I must admit):

- 1 -
CODE
Darkness has covered the light
diving me into the blackness of the night
and the my gloomest nightmares
became reality

Transformed my fear into a monster
Tore my hope, made me weary,
the face of future
Hiding t he joy
to unveil my pain
destroying bit by bit
my being.

Me me fall slowly, forgetting
The lie of my life
slowly betraying the act of God
Diving me deeper in the grave
because the wounds of my soul,
bleeding stream...

Don't try to save me.
It's to late.
I built my grave.


Pretty usual, you'd have to say. Well, in brief, all his texts are pretty dark and refer about the fact that someone needs to save him, that he's falling deeper, and blablabla etc... It's well written anyway.

I also canceled the meeting I had with him, this weekend, to see my girlfriend instead. I mean, how can I refuse that. If he's still alive the next weekend, I'll go see him and have a nice time (before he falls again into depression, once again, since he's all alone).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sir_IceHawk on 2005-10-05 at 11:16:27
ive gone through some major hastle in my life...
but suicide is nvr the answer...

if you do commit suicide...think of the ppl who will b left behind?

ur parents: loved u since the day u where born...sometimes it may not seem so...but trust me its true

brothers and sisters (if ur an only child then it dont matter): tho u argue with each other over the simplest of things alot of the time (i do with my sister) they r still there 4 u...and i bet uve had a laugh and a joke with them?

ur m8s: think of ur best friend, the 1 thats been there for you for the many years, the one that helps you get out of trouble, the one that would take a bullet for you. i would take a bullet for my m8s. if u when suicidal...then how would they feel?

there are soo many ppl in ur life that care about you...if u have a problem then at least 1 of them will b able 2 help you out smile.gif

SIH
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fortune on 2005-10-07 at 09:01:23
I feel that suicide is wrong. People get frustrated, that is a fact. Suicide is a way out, which is also a fact. There are better choices though, in my opinion. Whatever your pitiful story may be, it's not worth pulling the plug.

Let me ask you all a question, if any of you have ever considered suicide, what for? It may be too personal a question for the likes of this community to answer, but the topic's purpose is to discuss suicide. I think if we were to get a few personal accounts, we could analyze the topic with a better approach.

I'll start. I have never enjoyed humanity. At times, I feel as if the world is just too flawed for my brain to contend with. I fight myself daily to deal with the pain and the anguish that it causes me. For that reason, the thought of suicide has lingered through my mind once or twice in the past few years. Although through the course of events in my recent past I have become more independant and self-running, I still feel a constant control by my surroundings—and my anger. I don't think suicide will ever haunt me enough to actually occur, but it still lives within me. Does anyone feel as if my account is unreasonable?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-10-07 at 23:05:28
[center]I have thought about it a few times.
At those times, I didn't like knowing the limit to my mortality. I'm better now. I know I don't have more than 10 years left, but I'm gonna live the blam outta those years.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-10-07 at 23:44:39
I like that outlook!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-10-08 at 00:36:40
I'm sorry bro sad.gif

I have pondered suicide. I think it is normal for humans to ponder about it once or twice. The human race as a whole wants to die, most just cannot go through with it because they do realize that it is just a down moment, and there are plenty of highs to come.

Everyone wants to die. Most just keep on living.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-10-08 at 00:37:55
I don't want to die. Most people I know don't want to die. If we wanted to die, we wouldn't care about most of the things we care about.
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