Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-22 at 16:18:21
pyro, as usual, your missing the point. HE did nothing, his troops shot at them. May of been his choice but he did not shoot at them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-22 at 17:48:40
So if Im an Army officer, and I dislike some people, and I order my men to shoot the people when they see them. My men shoot the people, Im at no fault?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2005-12-22 at 18:08:16
Oh Chris told you guys.
And btw the way, its not the feds job to evacuate cities, its the local governments job. So don't blame Bush cause he didn't do what wasn't his job.
And btw the way, its not the feds job to evacuate cities, its the local governments job. So don't blame Bush cause he didn't do what wasn't his job.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-22 at 18:18:28
actually your name suits you well dumbducky, for he did not tell anyone. I never once said that saddam was at no fault (obviously have some very smart people here [/sarcasm]) but all i said was that he wasn't PHYSICALLY shooting. geez.... retarded people today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-22 at 19:24:58
lol, we shouldn't remove saddam cause he physically didn't do anything case hes lazy.
lol Euro don't insult him.
lol Euro don't insult him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EdAi on 2005-12-22 at 19:26:36
GEORGE BUSH IS AN IDIOT, AN IDIOT AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2005-12-22 at 19:57:14
Ahem....ill just make this straight up and simple
"He's an idoit"
"He's an idoit"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Weed-4-me on 2005-12-22 at 19:58:38
goerge bush is a fool... starting wars everywhere for oil profits
why cant u americans ellect someone else!
why cant u americans ellect someone else!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-22 at 21:36:53
because most of the US is republican and they dont know how to vote. voters are stupid. people that dont vote are stupid for not voting. voters are also stupid for electing senetors to vote for bush.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-23 at 00:23:23
You see, I don't get how someone can be only one party... as Chris Rock said: "There are some things I'm conservative about, and there are some things I'm liberal about. Abortion... I'm conservative, Prostitution... I'm liberal!" Same thing with me and repubs/demos... I have both parts of their views.
But yes, a majority of the house, senate, and congress are republicans, therefore they support their own. (aka bush)
But yes, a majority of the house, senate, and congress are republicans, therefore they support their own. (aka bush)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-23 at 01:42:06
QUOTE(Euro @ Dec 22 2005, 04:18 PM)
pyro, as usual, your missing the point. HE did nothing, his troops shot at them. May of been his choice but he did not shoot at them.
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Yeah well his soldiers have shot at US planes for years and now that Bush entered Iraq for no reason because Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 which is why Bush started the war... he saw an oppurtunity to finish his father's work and decided to capture Saddam without thinking about the conserquences:
1000+ Iraqi Civillian Casualties
30+ American Kidnappings and Decapitations
2000+ US Soldier Casualties
Savvy?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-12-23 at 01:52:30
I think he just got paranoid about the middle east, and with that thought of the dangers Saddam posed and moved in. Now he's sorta stuck there because if he pulls there might be a fanaticsm uprise that was waiting to happen. It's sort of like Vietnam but not AS bad. I'm not saying he's a good president I think he's causing more problems than solving. To me I think the war is the weakest reason to hate him really Saddam was a potential danger and he got rid of him making one less worry in the world. How he handles our nations domestic affairs is what makes me think he is a bad president NOT the war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-23 at 02:05:08
Its not waiting to happen its PLANNING to happen... Bush can't keep his troops in Iraq forever and even if he feels like returning our troops an uprise is gonna happen just like it will if there ARE troops. Bush doesn't have an infinite supply of troops willing to defend a struggling gov't in Iraq while people are being blown to pieces! Having US troops in Iraq is just delaying the insurgents attack but once it happens no one will ever know how and what happened! Think of it as this...
Iraq is a fortress.
US troops are the archers and reinforcements.
Insurgents are the warriors with battering rams and TNT.
Eventually... the "fortress" will collaspe and go back into an undemocratic/republic country under the reign of a dictator.
Iraq is a fortress.
US troops are the archers and reinforcements.
Insurgents are the warriors with battering rams and TNT.
Eventually... the "fortress" will collaspe and go back into an undemocratic/republic country under the reign of a dictator.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-12-23 at 02:13:32
Not if the populace truly wants a non dictator government and will fight for it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-23 at 03:43:41
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Not if the populace truly wants a non dictator government and will fight for it.
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Fight for freedom with what? Their bare hands vs. AK-47s and explosives? Unless they're invincible itll be one quick civil war.
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I think he just got paranoid about the middle east, and with that thought of the dangers Saddam posed and moved in. Now he's sorta stuck there because if he pulls there might be a fanaticsm uprise that was waiting to happen. It's sort of like Vietnam but not AS bad. I'm not saying he's a good president I think he's causing more problems than solving. To me I think the war is the weakest reason to hate him really Saddam was a potential danger and he got rid of him making one less worry in the world. How he handles our nations domestic affairs is what makes me think he is a bad president NOT the war.
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War is the main reason people stand by their president! The whole reason why he was re-elected is because once a president starts a war its better for them to finish it but at this rate he wont. If a president does poorly in a war... the country dislikes him. If he does good... the country likes him. The actions of the president determine the end result from the citizens reactions. If the president suffers... the WHOLE country suffers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-23 at 06:37:02
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 22 2005, 11:42 PM)
Yeah well his soldiers have shot at US planes for years and now that Bush entered Iraq for no reason because Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 which is why Bush started the war... he saw an oppurtunity to finish his father's work and decided to capture Saddam without thinking about the conserquences:
1000+ Iraqi Civillian Casualties
30+ American Kidnappings and Decapitations
2000+ US Soldier Casualties
Savvy?
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30+ American Kidnappings and Decapitations
2000+ US Soldier Casualties
Savvy?
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I hate to have to defend the president, but listen you farking whitie:
Bush didn't go into Iraq. The Coalition did.
We went in to rid Iraq of a dictator: Acomplished
I agree that he is doing daddy's work, but he started the war for other reasons.
Now, you farking whitie. PROOVE to us, that there have been 30+ AMERICAN kidnappings and decapitations.
I'm gone for 3-4 days, and SEN is over-ran with the stench of whities... AGAIN!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-12-23 at 11:39:35
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Fight for freedom with what? Their bare hands vs. AK-47s and explosives? Unless they're invincible itll be one quick civil war.
I doubt America will leave without giving them some weapons and possibly training
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-23 at 14:47:16
Actually kellimoose there have been many kidnappings and many decapitations... 
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/
Just 6 examples, scroll down and on the left side of the page will be a title "KNOW YOUR ENEMY", under it is 6 clickable videos of 6 different innocent civilians being beheaded by terrorists in Iraq.
And lonely_duck you are correct. We have trained thousands of Iraqis to become iraq army and police. They use AK-47s and our old desert uniforms (we have new awsome versions)
So if there is a civil war I think that the new Iraqi government will survive becuase their army is being trained similar to how our army gets trained. Good quality troops.
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/
Just 6 examples, scroll down and on the left side of the page will be a title "KNOW YOUR ENEMY", under it is 6 clickable videos of 6 different innocent civilians being beheaded by terrorists in Iraq.
And lonely_duck you are correct. We have trained thousands of Iraqis to become iraq army and police. They use AK-47s and our old desert uniforms (we have new awsome versions)
So if there is a civil war I think that the new Iraqi government will survive becuase their army is being trained similar to how our army gets trained. Good quality troops.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by killah1077 on 2005-12-27 at 06:10:41
Im still looking back to before 9-11, when there was a security update to the prez. but "Osama trying to attack within the US" (or something of the sort i may be wrong) and they(Bush and his cronies) didnt think it was specific enough 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2005-12-27 at 18:46:38
he wanted a reason, he knew osama wouldn't upset him...
Now he wants another 9/11 type attack to make his patriot acts look like the bill of rights.
Now he wants another 9/11 type attack to make his patriot acts look like the bill of rights.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pyro_Maniak14 on 2005-12-27 at 19:35:38
Haha... simple government cover up. And back to the point about Bush "not" going in Iraq... He controls the country and the majority of US Military forces are under HIS command. He was the ONLY person who can use the army like pawns because he owns the country. So he DID go into Iraq. Second... Iraq has NOTHING to do with 9/11. NOTHING... ABSOLUTELY 
NOTHING! His fight was with terrorists in Afghanistan and Osama but he saw Saddam across the border and sought to capture him. Sure... he captured him but with needless casualties. Now he piste off the terrorists in Iraq so they are fighting to put another dictator into power all because of Bush's decision to invade Iraq and capture Saddam. Now the US is too busy training Iraqis how to aim and fire guns when they should be looking for Osama instead of fighting terrorists THEY provoked.
NOTHING! His fight was with terrorists in Afghanistan and Osama but he saw Saddam across the border and sought to capture him. Sure... he captured him but with needless casualties. Now he piste off the terrorists in Iraq so they are fighting to put another dictator into power all because of Bush's decision to invade Iraq and capture Saddam. Now the US is too busy training Iraqis how to aim and fire guns when they should be looking for Osama instead of fighting terrorists THEY provoked.Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2005-12-28 at 00:19:24
You realize that it is proven that he is a moron. He passed high school with a D average and failed college. He had to get his father to get him a job in the oil department and he didn't know how to do math until he was 34. He is only president from his first term cause the electoral college people were republican and just wanted some republican as a leader; idiot or not. It was a dumb idea to go to war in the first place, peaceful confirmation would have been much better. He is keeping us forces in iraq to train a dead country how to fight, and how to form a government. He is a total nut job but he won't be in office for long. Got a feeling he'll get kicked out before he becomes the next adolf hitler.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-28 at 03:59:41
QUOTE(Pyro_Maniak14 @ Dec 27 2005, 05:35 PM)
Haha... simple government cover up. And back to the point about Bush "not" going in Iraq... He controls the country and the majority of US Military forces are under HIS command. He was the ONLY person who can use the army like pawns because he owns the country. So he DID go into Iraq. Second... Iraq has NOTHING to do with 9/11. NOTHING... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! His fight was with terrorists in Afghanistan and Osama but he saw Saddam across the border and sought to capture him. Sure... he captured him but with needless casualties. Now he piste off the terrorists in Iraq so they are fighting to put another dictator into power all because of Bush's decision to invade Iraq and capture Saddam. Now the US is too busy training Iraqis how to aim and fire guns when they should be looking for Osama instead of fighting terrorists THEY provoked.
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NOTHING! His fight was with terrorists in Afghanistan and Osama but he saw Saddam across the border and sought to capture him. Sure... he captured him but with needless casualties. Now he piste off the terrorists in Iraq so they are fighting to put another dictator into power all because of Bush's decision to invade Iraq and capture Saddam. Now the US is too busy training Iraqis how to aim and fire guns when they should be looking for Osama instead of fighting terrorists THEY provoked.[right][snapback]391071[/snapback][/right]
Why are you biznatching about Osama Bin Laden? The US does not care for him, because they know he didn't do it.
Or else we would have found him and arrested him, like we did with Saddam -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-12-28 at 18:26:46
ahhh yes, of course Osoma didn't do it! Who could any one hate a butcher like him!?!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-28 at 20:36:31
Pathetic argument, by a pathetic man.
Take his example before you praise Bush anymore.
The Patriot Act = The very thing Franklin is talking about.
ADDITION:
Here are some quotes from one of our Presidents:
Can you see, that EVERYTHING HE SAYS, goes AGAINST what our country is now?
I shouldn't be doing this because:
QUOTE(Benjamin Franklin)
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Take his example before you praise Bush anymore.
The Patriot Act = The very thing Franklin is talking about.
ADDITION:
Here are some quotes from one of our Presidents:
QUOTE(John Adams)
But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.
John Adams
Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom.
John Adams
I always consider the settlement of America with reverence and wonder, as the opening of a grand scene and design in providence, for the illumination of the ignorant and the emancipation of the slavish part of mankind all over the earth.
John Adams
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.
John Adams
The proposition that the people are the best keepers of their own liberties is not true. They are the worst conceivable, they are no keepers at all; they can neither judge, act, think, or will, as a political body.
John Adams
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
John Adams, 'Argument in Defense of the Soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials,' December 1770
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
John Adams, Journal, 1772
John Adams
Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom.
John Adams
I always consider the settlement of America with reverence and wonder, as the opening of a grand scene and design in providence, for the illumination of the ignorant and the emancipation of the slavish part of mankind all over the earth.
John Adams
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.
John Adams
The proposition that the people are the best keepers of their own liberties is not true. They are the worst conceivable, they are no keepers at all; they can neither judge, act, think, or will, as a political body.
John Adams
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
John Adams, 'Argument in Defense of the Soldiers in the Boston Massacre Trials,' December 1770
There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.
John Adams, Journal, 1772
Can you see, that EVERYTHING HE SAYS, goes AGAINST what our country is now?
I shouldn't be doing this because:
QUOTE
The blind follow ignorantly