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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-25 at 21:25:35
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 26 2006, 02:16 AM)
Congratulations on the most active post in clan mp history! Okay now to the point.

I just met speed the very day he asked to be recruited. He came up to me and asked to join and I said I didn't know who he was, and we had to see his map. I told agent not to go easy on him, agent says he liked speeds map, therefore he can join. He said he mostly plays on west. Minigame, if I wanted to get mp) members into Oo I sure have done a poor job doing it, I know jmoney was in Oo. and I have not pressured him to join Oo. I was a big boy about it, and I didn't care that he joined mp) why do you care about speed? Besides speed was unhappy in your clan. Since he joined Oo, he's been ejoying his time on bnet. Why do you want someone who is unhappy in your clan to stay? What did I do when Oo.Sin.oO aka laps(U) didn't spend any time in channel clan Oo? I suggested he joins another clan. Sometimes someone's not right for a clan. I have never had anything bad to say about mp) I don't see waht the problem is. If tagbanning Oo was good for your clan, then I would be more understanding, but Oo is a frendly peaceful active clan. Tagbanning Oo is like suffocating yourself. Think about it. I understand the rage you can feel when you are betrayed, it happens to me on a weekly basis. You gotta search for what works my friend. Your members don't support this idea, listen to them.
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more like multiple members. lol T-master thats a good one Dr.Phil. theres one diff between Dr.Phil and SOLAR. and thats that Dr.Phil is smart.

onto my point

1.Mp)Speedy or w/e join your clan
2.Mp)Shorty joined your clan
3.Mp)Icy joined your clan.

thats at least 3 ppl. lets hear your justice on that "Dr.Phil"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2006-01-25 at 21:27:29
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 25 2006, 09:24 PM)
Minigame, these people in your clan play sc for fun. If you want to have the title "leader" you need to understand the huge responsibillity that comes along with it. If the clan is unsuccessful it is your fault, no one elses. Your members are a direct reflection of you.
"plus if a person quits becuase the clan is dying then there meanies"
If the clans dying, then you're not doing your part. Why should your members be responsible for running your clan? I want to help you, and you should take my posts as advice.
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Mp isnt dying really tho it just is inactive because the members got other things to do like school n shiz but since I know someone is gonna say "Activity is key to a clan" ill just say that I know already but it isnt a big deal if were inactive
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.SOLAR.oO on 2006-01-25 at 21:31:35
QUOTE(Mp)Cloud @ Jan 25 2006, 09:25 PM)
more like multiple members. lol T-master thats a good one Dr.Phil. theres one diff between Dr.Phil and SOLAR. and thats that Dr.Phil is smart.

onto my point

1.Mp)Speedy or w/e join your clan
2.Mp)Shorty joined your clan
3.Mp)Icy joined your clan.

thats at least 3 ppl. lets hear your justice on that "Dr.Phil"
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Speed joined by choice. Shorty was not in MP when shorty joined Oo. You badmouthed shorty as she quit which removed any chance she had to rejoin. Icy has been working really hard to join Oo, and was rejected for a while before getting in. I'm not out to get clan mp people, seriously. If a good mapmaker wants to join Oo, I'm not going to disallow it due to the fact they're in mp. Hey cloud, are you comparing me to dr.phil? Because that's totally cool!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-01-25 at 21:31:52

QUOTE(Mp)MinigameEast @ Jan 25 2006, 08:15 PM)
it is not my choice to make Mp) inactive. my members has the right to recruit almost anyone in starcraft. besides dont put all the shiz on me becuase i didnt do this and i didnt do that. you know there is a word called asking?

have i ever flammed clan Oo forums that much?
i beleived T-masta needs to stop bickering over a tag ban even if T-masta doesnt even come into my channel.

plus if a person quits becuase the clan is dying then there meanies. im sorry to say but i dont take that kind of shiz. i give props to people that stay in the clan that can beleive and help the clan like the people that started the clan and surviving it right now.

im not making the war. yall are making the war. one little tag ban and you think its the end of the world.

("no respect no freedom")
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Am i the only 1 that doesn't think this makes sence?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-01-25 at 21:36:36
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 25 2006, 09:24 PM)
Minigame, these people in your clan play sc for fun. If you want to have the title "leader" you need to understand the huge responsibillity that comes along with it. If the clan is unsuccessful it is your fault, no one elses. Your members are a direct reflection of you.
"plus if a person quits becuase the clan is dying then there meanies"
If the clans dying, then you're not doing your part. Why should your members be responsible for running your clan? I want to help you, and you should take my posts as advice.
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oookkkk........ lets put it this wayhow about quit putting this on me only. you know there is another leader named Mp)Sniper and a co-leader named Mp)Jmoney.

mostly a leader is the supporter of the clan. from my point of view the members is what it makes it count. the members make the clan grow not the leader. members get more members, sort of like germs do you think? you dont need a leader germ to make more members other germs can do that.

so what im saying is that the members have a big part of this also.
its there choice that they want to be inactive.
i dont think there babies so they know how to recruit and bring more people.
im just here to provide the channel, the forums, seeing hows things going.
the rest is up to the members.

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QUOTE(Insane @ Jan 25 2006, 09:27 PM)
Mp isnt dying really tho it just is inactive because the members got other things to do like school n shiz but since I know someone is gonna say "Activity is key to a clan" ill just say that I know already but it isnt a big deal if were inactive
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i dont care if its inactive. i only care that were still alive and to be known in starcraft. its the members that can make it active not me.

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 25 2006, 09:16 PM)
Congratulations on the most active post in clan mp history! Okay now to the point.

I just met speed the very day he asked to be recruited. He came up to me and asked to join and I said I didn't know who he was, and we had to see his map. I told agent not to go easy on him, agent says he liked speeds map, therefore he can join. He said he mostly plays on west. Minigame, if I wanted to get mp) members into Oo I sure have done a poor job doing it, I know jmoney was in Oo. and I have not pressured him to join Oo. I was a big boy about it, and I didn't care that he joined mp) why do you care about speed? Besides speed was unhappy in your clan. Since he joined Oo, he's been ejoying his time on bnet. Why do you want someone who is unhappy in your clan to stay? What did I do when Oo.Sin.oO aka laps(U) didn't spend any time in channel clan Oo? I suggested he joins another clan. Sometimes someone's not right for a clan. I have never had anything bad to say about mp) I don't see waht the problem is. If tagbanning Oo was good for your clan, then I would be more understanding, but Oo is a frendly peaceful active clan. Tagbanning Oo is like suffocating yourself. Think about it. I understand the rage you can feel when you are betrayed, it happens to me on a weekly basis. You gotta search for what works my friend. Your members don't support this idea, listen to them.
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its not just you, its your whole clan and who ever is recruiting.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.SOLAR.oO on 2006-01-25 at 21:40:30
Minigame you're delusional. Any clan leader will agree that it's the leader's responsibillity to run the clan. You can't expect members to do it. Even co leaders and other top ranks need supervision and guidance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-01-25 at 21:42:47
Will this ever end? Just make up and be friends and stop this dumb charade. Its not worth going to war just for a simple tag ban.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-01-25 at 21:47:00
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 25 2006, 09:40 PM)
Minigame you're delusional. Any clan leader will agree that it's the leader's responsibillity to run the clan. You can't expect members to do it. Even co leaders and other top ranks need supervision and guidance.
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well theres rules... obviously thats your guideness there.
for one... im a different clan leader. letting the members to decide whether they should be treated like toddlers or let them do almost whatever they want with the rules applied.
if they need map making help then they should ask a member or 2nd choice SEN.
i believe thats what SEN is for, helping others and make maps don't you think?
oh i believe in my members, if only all of them are trustworthy, believers and can work this out together.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-01-25 at 21:47:15
Yeah that's what I thought. A lot of people were complaining too. Why is Oo tagbanned from Clan Mp?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-25 at 21:47:59
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 26 2006, 02:31 AM)
Speed joined by choice. Shorty was not in MP when shorty joined Oo. You badmouthed shorty as she quit which removed any chance she had to rejoin. Icy has been working really hard to join Oo, and was rejected for a while before getting in. I'm not out to get clan mp people, seriously. If a good mapmaker wants to join Oo, I'm not going to disallow it due to the fact they're in mp. Hey cloud, are you comparing me to dr.phil? Because that's totally cool!
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Shorty deserved it, she said i flammed her when i didnt so i just flammed her to actually giver her the reason. btw Dr.Phil still ownz u ermm.gif

QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 26 2006, 02:40 AM)
Minigame you're delusional. Any clan leader and Ex-Clan Leader will agree that it's the leader's responsibillity to run the clan. You can't expect members to do it. Even co leaders and other top ranks need supervision and guidance.
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Fixed.

Now i have ALOT of experience running a clan, 2 years it was co-leader of clan shu and the 1 year i was leader until i finally died out, the reason it ended up dying was because of a warring clan but thats another story. and i have to agree with you 100% Any Clan Leader and Ex-Clan leader will agree that it's the leaders responsibility to run the clan. BUT sometimes the leader can be over-worked. and needs a break, which is what co-leaders are their for.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-01-25 at 21:49:03
QUOTE(Mp)Marine @ Jan 25 2006, 09:42 PM)
Will this ever end? Just make up and be friends and stop this dumb charade. Its not worth going to war just for a simple tag ban.
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im not the one making the war. its not like the tag ban is going to be pernament. its the way they act most of the time. No Respect!

i like your idea, but your not looking in my point of view
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-01-25 at 21:49:33
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 25 2006, 09:16 PM)
but Oo is a frendly peaceful active clan.
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Haha.
QUOTE(Oo.SOLAR.oO @ Jan 25 2006, 09:16 PM)
Your members don't support this idea, listen to them.
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I agree with this.
QUOTE(Mp)MinigameEast @ Jan 25 2006, 09:36 PM)
mostly a leader is the supporter of the clan. from my point of view the members is what it makes it count. the members make the clan grow not the leader. members get more members, sort of like germs do you think? you dont need a leader germ to make more members other germs can do that.
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Keep in mind that even though most of us live in a democratic republic society, clans are monarchies. The leader is the one to take all the fame or all the blame. The leader is the one to do all the work when the members fail to do their duties. You can never rely on anyone else so it's basically a leader who is the clan.

Now let's keep this a clean discussion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.SOLAR.oO on 2006-01-25 at 21:50:09
Yes, I'm done here. This reminds me of when clan [T] started a war with Oo to boost activity. Remember Krazy2[T]? Anyways, I'm done with this issue, minigame talk to me in person about this, if you want. Being tagbanned from mp) doesn't affect me in any way shape or form. Have fun in your channel.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-25 at 21:56:38
QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Jan 26 2006, 02:49 AM)
Keep in mind that even though most of us live in a democratic republic society, clans are monarchies. The leader is the one to take all the fame or all the blame. The leader is the one to do all the work when the members fail to do their duties. You can never rely on anyone else so it's basically a leader who is the clan.

Now let's keep this a clean discussion.
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You've obvisouly never been in a democratic clan.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-01-25 at 22:04:30
I'd like to see that work. You can't force members to create a Congress and pass legislations. There is no executive branch, no judiciary branch. It's all under one person. This is why many times when a leader leaves without warning, the clan falls apart.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2006-01-25 at 22:04:47
moslty is always me... me me me that is the active leader.
im getting sick of being the only one doing it.
i think common sence is not that common anymore i think my clan needs to vote on whether they wanted to be treated likes a communist or have freedom like the United States have?

there are alot of diffrent leaders out there legacy. like the president of the United States and the President of Mexico and theres hitler and sudam.

leaders do have diffrent point of views... and im not going to be the leader that acts and be another leader like them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-01-25 at 22:05:57
Monarchy and communism are totally different.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-25 at 22:11:29
QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Jan 26 2006, 03:04 AM)
I'd like to see that work. You can't force members to create a Congress and pass legislations. There is no executive branch, no judiciary branch. It's all under one person. This is why many times when a leader leaves without warning, the clan falls apart.
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no your just doing it in a VERY hard way. have you ever heard of an election? my old clan was a council of 4 branch leaders. 2 leaders that leaded 2 branchs each and 1 leader that commander everyone. when a leader resigned. we let the regular members vote a new leader to replace them. ill give you a basic over view of how the branchs went.


Leader
Army Leader Army Leader
Branch Leader Branch Leader Branch Leader Branch Leader

looks pretty simple huh?. we dont need your "executive branch or jedicaiary branch. just do it the easier way. aka use ur imagination and not something that someone else made up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sniper on 2006-01-26 at 00:54:02
Guys people play Starcraft for fun. Why are we turning this into WW3?

If an Oo member is able to "sweet-talk" them into joining their clan there is obviously something that Oo has that we don't whether its activity or people. If they decide to move to Oo that's their choice. No one pointed a gun at their heads. I can understand how minigame feels. It is very annoying when people start "recruiting" our members. However, tagbanning only limits the ability to have Oo pride in the channel. Isn't it just as easy to come back on a different account?

So, this is what we're going to do. Somebody with access will untagban Oo ( if it hasn't already been done so. I don't spend my time reading 4 pages of forum posts ). I will ask that members that leave please give an explanation so we can understand what has happened. You guys will stop arguing..........now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-01-26 at 02:36:27
QUOTE(Sniper @ Jan 25 2006, 10:54 PM)
Guys people play Starcraft for fun. Why are we turning this into WW3?

If an Oo member is able to "sweet-talk" them into joining their clan there is obviously something that Oo has that we don't whether its activity or people. If they decide to move to Oo that's their choice. No one pointed a gun at their heads. I can understand how minigame feels. It is very annoying when people start "recruiting" our members. However, tagbanning only limits the ability to have Oo pride in the channel. Isn't it just as easy to come back on a different account?

So, this is what we're going to do. Somebody with access will untagban Oo ( if it hasn't already been done so. I don't spend my time reading 4 pages of forum posts ). I will ask that members that leave please give an explanation so we can understand what has happened. You guys will stop arguing..........now.
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Well done sniper smile.gif
Way to close things up clapping.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-26 at 11:19:01
Actually Legacy, GgG has had a senate, and a whole set of rules. We were a democracy!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AgenT_Nick on 2006-01-26 at 16:03:27
i really want to stop this fighting but minigame wont get over that one of his children ran away and found a new family. u just got to get over it. friends?

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[5:20:29 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> what does r2b play as now?
[5:20:32 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> hi
[5:20:33 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> Red2Blue(U)
[5:20:37 PM] -- cA.Fire@USEast [31ms] has joined the channel using Starcraft Brood War (16 wins).
[5:20:40 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> ewo speed
[5:20:45 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> wats speed limit?
[5:20:48 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> umm
[5:20:55 PM] -- cA.Fire@USEast has left the channel.
[5:20:56 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> i was thinking about join your clan
[5:21:04 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> my clans like dead

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[5:21:08 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> ,
[5:21:11 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> inDeeD
[5:21:16 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> do u know me?
[5:21:17 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> lol
[5:21:18 PM] -- Oo.SpeCk.oO@USEast has left the channel.
[5:21:20 PM] <PreTeeN@USEast> .
[5:21:21 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> nope XD
[5:21:25 PM] <PreTeeN@USEast> <~ Mp)GrEeNs
[5:21:27 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> i made
[5:21:28 PM] -- Oo.SpeCk.oO@USEast [78ms] has joined the channel using Starcraft Brood War (564 wins, with a rating of 866 on the ladder)
[5:21:28 PM] <PreTeeN@USEast> :/
[5:21:28 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> maze d
[5:21:31 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> turret m
[5:21:33 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> oh i know u
[5:21:34 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> floor trp d
[5:21:35 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast>
[5:21:37 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> yea
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[5:21:43 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> thought i knew Speed_Limit
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[5:21:46 PM] <Oo.SpeCk.oO@USEast> speed limit ahah u made alot of maps
[5:21:47 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> but them Mp)
[5:21:50 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> ya
[5:21:53 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> gd defences
[5:22:00 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> UR IN! but i aint recruiter
[5:22:00 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> lol
[5:22:04 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> ur name sounds familial
[5:22:05 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> so i cant recruit
[5:22:12 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> whos recuiter?
[5:22:17 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> speck will be
[5:22:18 PM] <Oo.SpeCk.oO@USEast> solar vic
[5:22:19 PM] <Oo.SpeCk.oO@USEast> umm
[5:22:20 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> lol
[5:22:21 PM] <Oo.SpeCk.oO@USEast> person
[5:22:21 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> or nort
[5:22:22 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> yea vic
[5:22:26 PM] <Oo.RiNE.oO@USEast> T
[5:22:26 PM] <Mp)speed_limit@USEast> nade hella maps

this is proof we didnt steal him from mp)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-01-26 at 17:36:56
QUOTE(Dorkhawk @ Jan 26 2006, 11:19 AM)
Actually Legacy, GgG has had a senate, and a whole set of rules. We were a democracy!
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Yeah but back in the day, I remember when Chaos was like the entire clan by himself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-26 at 18:03:38
smile.gif
We had a constiution, that had so many flaws. We could pass laws, with 3/5 of the senate and Leaders approval, and then if the leader disagreed we could counter it! Too bad Chaos made loopholes like pocket vetos. We couldn't beat those sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AgenT_Nick on 2006-01-26 at 18:05:32
ha thats funny
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