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Yeah, I always found that weird, he swears every seconds in Bad Boys 2, but in his songs he barely ever swears and when he does, it's usually "ass". I never found Will Smith to be that great a rapper, but he does have his songs.

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I've listened to A LOT of rap. I used to listen to Young Jeezy, TI, 50 Cent, Young Buck, Eminem, Birdman, Lil Wayne, Lil Scrappy, and so on.. Trust me, I've heard rap, and there is usually not a positive influence. And maybe I'm grouping rap and saying it's all vulgar, and negative, but that's true for a large percentage of it.. I can tell you one thing, a lot of rap is. Will Smith is one person, out of a large amount of people, who raps about positive things. And I think we all know Will Smith isn't a stereotypical rapper.

And Will Smith falls under Hip Hop artist, just so you know.

You're right, I have no clue what I'm talking about!

Explicit music/games are beginning to be the base of some society today. Although it's not the best thing for younger kids, it would be disasterous if you took them off of the market. Riots and stuff like that would happen. Let stuff like this take its place, but not take over our culture.

Any normal kid with a sense of reason will know the killing in games is wrong.

Yea, but a lot of people are friggen fooles...

Just like last week I heard something about some kid trying to re-enact some scene from WoW and he jumped of a farking cliff.

I'd like to know what's going through people's minds when they do that. I don't know the details of the story, or if that was intentional or if the falling was accidental, but I don't think he should have been in a postion for that to happen anyway.

I believe that it's not really the child's fault for what they perceive from the music/games that they play. There have been recorded violent actions derived from GTA: SA and other violent games.

Really I think it's in the parenting, I've always been told that you should never do any of this stuff, because it can not happen, and will not happen for you or work for you. Same with music, I can play and listen to whatever I want as long as I don't display what I hear in real life. Sure, a cuss sometimes but I'm not violent even though I play games like CS and DoD.

Well i think yes and no. It does promote spyco killers and really gets people going. It's really unhealthy to the human mind. BUt for the people who are able to contain it. They should feel free to play.

No. Parents should know what children are listening to. Plus, there are other things that are worse than listening to music. The responsibility goes to the parents for letting them get the cd or music and let them listen to it.

The thing nowadays is that noone wants to take blame for anything.

well, i listen to metal if i wanna express my anger somehow, or if i'm in a bad mood. but if i have good mood for good thaughts, i can allso listen to Mozart Bach or Beethoven.

some people think, that parents should controll what their children are listening to.
but they can't controll their thaughts. if a person is inclined to commit suicide, if not the music or games, then something else will inspire him to do so. we see things the way we want to see them.

i heard on discovery channel, that some Judas Priest song has words "do it" & cawse of that 1 guy commited suicide. millions of people heard this song & didnt understand those words as "commit suicide". if a man who allways wanted to play football but didnt play it heard this song, maybe he would start palying football...

Music can affect how people think. Period. It's up to the parents and those responsible for the children to discern between what kinds of music they want their kids to listen to. I'm sick of people blaming everyone but themselves. We've changed a hell of a large amount since the '30s and '40s where everyone took account of what they did. Now it's everyone else's fault, and none of their own. Gah, sorry about the rant, it's been irking me all day.

You don't have to listen to the music if you don't want to, or the movies. If you want to be "corrupted" by "explicit content", then watch the movies, listen to the music. If not, stay away, and stop whining...

You shouldn't ban anything. No one is making you play GTA, or listen to Snoop Doog. Or making you watch Hostel. Nothing should be banned, and if it is I see that as violation of the first amendment, and unconstitional. I don't mind things being banned in a state, because you can over throw that with reasonable evidence. Banning things nation wide is just stupid.

you're right about that noone is forcing you to do so.


but if this violent music/game hadn't existed, then 0 people would listen/play it.


sometimes nomatter how hard parents try, they can't stop their child/childrenn.

Because they never instill discipline in the in the first place. I'm scared to death of what my parents might do, and they don't even touch me.

There are only certain games in which it shows you as the character of the evil horde. Those types should be banned UNLESS you are of the age of 18. Other games such as doom 3 or quake 4 do not show you as the evil one nor as a realistic world. GTA is a game in which should be banned for younger adults but not for older peers that have life experience and know the consequences. We have had robbers, murderers, and suiciders since before the days of technology. How will video games change that by a large degree? It has no affect to the older children but the less adult like ones should be careful.

They have the ESRB rating for a reason. Legally, the stores can't even sell the M games to minors anyway, so it's completely the parent's fault.

I've bought Diablo 2 from a store, alone.

Actually, Diablo 2: LOD.

I'll go with: "Duh?"
Maybe we can just get rid of everything that the goverment doesn't like and turn into a facism? The great thing about america is how you can get so many things without any legal problems. This isn't true with other countries like Britan, and Austrailla. You could pull that up with a lot of things, but you can't change what already happened. "Maybe if there weren't any guns, there would be no war" etc.


Banned means no one can use it, even if you are 18. So you can't "Sort of" ban games, music, or movies.

You know "CJ" wasn't that bad. Claude, Sure, Tommy Vercetti, defently. But Carl Johnson was only protecting himself. He kills a corrupt cop and probably helped a lot of people's lives (Tenpenny DID kill his partner and everything). It's not like the main missions were "Destroy innocent civillans". Obviously he's still pretty bad, but not all "Evil" Characters are that bad. Heck, some "Good" characters are pretty scary. Solid Snake? The guy who can break your arm and shoot you in the head, I'm sure that'll look great for some people.


Laws saying that it's illegal to sell games to minor (Without a parent/18 year old) have only arrivied recently in some states. And Diablo 2 was made in like 1999.

I bought it in 2005.

Just saying, it's possible to break those rules. And I think D2 was made in 2000 or something and LOD 2001 or 02.

They came out near the end of 2005 and early 2006. And I remeber you playing D2 a long time ago. Plus I think the clerk could've figured out that games rated "Mature" from 2000, probably don't hold as much ground as Mature games today. Like "Death Racer" on NES. I'm sure that would've been mature (If the ESRB exsisted) but it's just stick figures running over other stick figures...

I've purchased D2 many times, even though I could have downloaded it illegally.

And, I think back then, they used like some RSAC rating.

That's what it says on my Quake box

i just think if the person is old or mature enough to handle such things without any real influence to change his life to do what he sees, then it should be perfectly legal and no harm done...

but banning the explicit stuff including things on movies and tv would cause a huge upset...and would pretty much be unfair to an audience group...

but if parents think they can't handle it,people are right to say its up to them to not expose the stuff to them yet until they think they are ready they can handle it...

i dont think so. for example: you really like playing SC but your father doesent wants you to play it. if you're afraid to play it at home becawse of the punishment, you play is at your friend's house, without your father even knowing.

A kid who was properly parented wouldn't disobey his parents rules, even if he isn't at his parents house?

But then again, that'd be almost too perfect of a kid -_-