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Some people believe black people should still be put into seperate communities, like whites only and etc..

but we don't allow that now do we?

Likewise, some people believe abortion should be banned. But we're not going to allow that are we?

Oh, South Dakota already did.

Rights taken away by Republicans since Bush's first election: too many.

Unless the to-be-mother was raped or in danger, it should not be done, because you could be killing the person that will lead to the cure of cancer or the such. The best of both worlds.

Theres no basic human right saying killing fetuses before they are born is ok(correct me if Im wrong). That is just human manipulation to the extreme.

I don't get the point of discussing this. Pro-lifers define a fetus as a human. Pro-choicers define a fetus as a thing. The only way to stop abortion is to gain power in congress and ban it. It's just thats to hard.

For the Most part, I believe abortion should be illegal. Under very few circumstances would I see abortion as an ok thing to do... and those few circumstances are the only valid and reasonable pro-abortion arguments I see.

I think you're right... most people who have an opinion on this aren't going to change it, no matter what reasons are given by the other side.

For clarification, MA, no one claims to be "pro-abortion". They're either pro-choice or pro -life.

I take offense from people who say I'm "pro-abortion".

the key word here is chance. That fetus will grow into a human being, hence giving it a chance to LIVE. Your ending that little life becuase of your own selfish problems.

So?

Negative, see your ending a life that already started.

Your logic of castrating yourself does not apply becuase you didn't kill yourself. The whole point about abortion is ending a life

Although, some extremists (like Mormons, I think) DO believe that ANY type of birth control is murder because it prevents a potential life from starting.

You should not be able to abort a fetus once it is "viable" (IE, it can survive outside the mother's womb) except under special circumstances (IE, it will end up killing them both). A zygote cannot survive outside the womb.

It's mostly 'more precious then what you give it' because the parents care for it and will nurture it. Without abortion, the parents won't want the baby, it will just be a burden.

The parents will grow to love it in time, possibly, or give it to an orphanage, and from there there's nowhere for them to go. A life of pain and misery, and the chances of them really rising in life are slim. It's called mercy for the parents, who might have to quit school or whatever they're doing and support an extra child, or it's mercy to the child, who won't have to live a terrible life (probably). The chances that everyone comes out happy are slim.


And your ending a life, the baby that might have been, by castrating yourself
A fetus isn't sentient in any way, so how is it different from castrating yourself? Either way you're removing a possible baby from the world.

Ever heard of adoption?

@ Doodan's statement: I don't think so.. I grew up around Mormons, and they never spoke of that O.o...



This isn't Oliver Twist.


Sperm is not alive.

ADDITION:
And by the way: If you don't practice good safe sex habits (Wear a condom, have her be on birth control, have spermicide, and the day after pill), then you shouldn't even be having safe sex.

Castrating is BEFORE the fetus has life, abortion is the fetus had already started growing.

Abortion I think is fine but it needs tight restrictions and punishments.

If a teen gets pregnant and has an abortion she has learned nothing except the fact that she can can get away with it. There needs to be some way of her to "suffer" for what she did so she won't do it again.

One of the main arguments is when is something alive. Whether something that is microscopic/close to in a womb alive or not is really oppinion. I personaly don't know though when I would classify something a living or not.

omg your not reading my posts. The fetus is LIFE, it has already started growing, you are killing that life. But castrating yourself is not killing a fetus becuase they fetus isn't even there.

DT, tough on abortion, soft on terrorists.



To me, if it has cells and can grows, its life.

Sperm have to mature too. Does that mean that each time we ejaculate, it's murder?

It's an imaginary conflict of interests between the mother and the unborn fetus.

If the mother wants an abortion, what is stopping her? Certainly not the fetus. The only personality traits of a fetus are ones that other people impose on it. Fetus' don't talk; nobody knows what they want, if anything.

Some people just assume that the fetus wants and deserves to live, that the rights of the fetus supersede the mother's right to choose an abortion.

But the real question here is not about right vs. wrong, it's about whether or not it should be illigal to abort.
Illfounded and restrictive laws are bad. Throw my rights/freedom away and let the government decide my family's fate? That'll be the day.

Maybe people will make the wrong choice, but it should he their's to make.

I agree