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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord_Agamemnon(MM) on 2006-03-15 at 21:48:09
I'm an atheist. I don't not believe in God, I believe that there is not a God. Call it semantics, but I think that it makes all the difference. I believe this because I see no reason for God to exist; physical laws explain the creation of the universe, and I think miracles are rather dubious. If a man approached you and said "I just saw a mushroom flying through the sky!" you would think he's on drugs or crazy. Why, then, when someone says "I just saw Jesus flying through the sky!" is it a bona fide miracle?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-03-15 at 21:58:39
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Mar 15 2006, 12:43 PM)
No, you said the muslim community. The WHOLE muslim community, I might add. If you were smart, you would have in particular said the Arabic community of muslims. Sure, I'm a muslim and I'm a little pissed they did that, but am I burning embassies? In fact, several non-Arab Imams have condemned the violence.

Also, believing in God doesen't automatically make you go to heaven. Being an atheist or polytheistic person doesen't automatically make you go to hell. If you're a good person, you land in Heaven at the end, as I see it. And if you were a bad person, you land in hell. That's the way I see it, anyways.
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QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ Mar 13 2006, 07:21 PM)
I can see your religion as starting out good and etc.  But lately Im starting to dislike the majority in your community.  If you publish one bad thing about muslems, the whole muslem world riots and theres massive death and destruction.  Tolerant? Some cases. Understanding? stretch.
That a kid.
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I did not say muslem, and I did not say all.

Dude, just drop it I know what Im talking about.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-03-16 at 15:14:22
QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ Mar 13 2006, 07:21 PM)
If you publish one bad thing about muslems, the whole muslem world riots and theres massive death and destruction.  Tolerant? Some cases. Understanding? stretch.
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Uh huh. I see. You never said the word muslim, you said the word muslem, which is a misspelling of the word muslim. But apparently, you think muslims ALL get pissed about cartoons.

QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ Mar 13 2006, 07:21 PM)
I can see your religion as starting out good and etc.  But lately Im starting to dislike the majority in your community.
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AH HA! So, nothing about muslims, right? Just something about my religion... which is Islam! I see. Unless you're talking about Americans, of course. Do you hate Americans, or muslims? Please clarify. So, don't tell me to drop it. I'm damned sure I know more about my beliefs than you do.


Arbitrary: Yes, this is correct. Islamic beliefs are that no man has the right to judge a person fairly, as no man knows everything, but but islamic beliefs are that a powerful being called Allah (God), who is omnipotent and knows all, exists and judges men and sends them to hell or heaven.

DeadlyInnocence: We do not think of Allah/God as a person, so it is not a monarchy, but in your eyes, it may be. So you could also technically think of Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism as absolute monarchies if you think of Islam that way.

The Qu'ran specifically states power should be to the people, yet for some reason, many Arab followers of Islam cling to Arabic history in that they keep single-rulers or fake-democracies, as in Iran and previously Iraq.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-03-16 at 18:29:51
Ok fine, have it your way you pain in the butt. Hundreds of thousands of muslims riot and kill over anything bad anybody says about the religion. No difference either way, just you crying about it.

your religion = islam. now move it over into the other sentence, which i thought you would understand. the people in your (islam) community.

Which means you remove the religion, and you start with the people. gosh damn do you understand english? Or the english writing system?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2006-03-16 at 19:00:38
U know what, I believe in God because:
1. Fear of death
2. Stupidity, I guess...
3. I need somebody to confess to; I'm full of guilt
4. Parents, but lately, I love bein Christian...

And to Snake Ling, I BELIEVE (dunno if it's true) that ur religion focuses on power to God, but I BELIEVE that ours focuses on the people. Sorry if i offended you.

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Also, believing in God doesen't automatically make you go to heaven. Being an atheist or polytheistic person doesen't automatically make you go to hell. If you're a good person, you land in Heaven at the end, as I see it. And if you were a bad person, you land in hell. That's the way I see it, anyways.

No. I believe that's wrong. I believe that to go to heaven, you are saved by faith alone. That is because you can be forgiven for EVERY sin EXCEPT for hate of God.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-03-16 at 19:37:22
QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ Mar 16 2006, 06:29 PM)
gosh damn do you understand english? Or the english writing system?
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Yes, I do understand the English writing system. You forget to make the letter 'g' in your first sentence there capitalized, additionally, you failed to include a verb in the second sentence. Both sentences don't have the 'e' in English capitalized.

To Castaminator,

No, you haven't offended me. We believe God (the same God as yours) holds the power to judge everyone, we believe people have the power to do what they want. In our religion, our Prophet told us that God would judge people on how they contribute to humanity, not whether they believe or not. An athiest scientists who disbelieves in God due to the fact there is no proof of God, for example, will go to Heaven if he or she doesen't do anything bad or contributes to humanity. A Muslim who murders a pagan non-believer will go to hell because he, well, anti-contributed to humanity.

We also don't believe in repenting major sins, for example, Hitler could never be forgiven for his part in murdering millions of people and causing a massive war.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-03-16 at 20:53:30
Then can I ask muslims and christians here one question? Why are you guys fighting with each other when you believe in the same god?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-03-16 at 21:57:20
lol snake, thats what I thought, you pasted ze test-o-la

No its not Christians fighitng muslims. Its muslims in the middle east thinking this is another crusade by christians (and since when is the US Army entirely christian?). I saw a history channel research show on this topic.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2006-03-17 at 01:25:12
QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ Mar 16 2006, 08:56 PM)
lol snake, thats what I thought, you pasted ze test-o-la

No its not Christians fighitng muslims.  Its muslims in the middle east thinking this is another crusade by christians (and since when is the US Army entirely christian?).  I saw a history channel research show on this topic.
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Most worthwhile, or intelligent like, thing I've ever seen you say smile.gif .

There's a huge conspiracy theory that the american government is being controlled by the old age believers of the christianity. In other words, some people think the U.S. is trying to convert every1 to christians... and if u refuse we kill you
(ya know, like chronicles of ridwang-gotta love that movie! w00t.gif ). People think this all similar to manifest destiny, the crusades, all that smack. Because all throuygh out america's NON-PROCLAIMED history America has been thought to be trying to convert half of the world(philipines, samoa, puerto rico, cuba, japan, etc.). Is it true? Personally I wouldn't put it behind anything, i'm open to the possibility.

But anyway, that's what the whole idea is with the whole taliban thing(since they tell us americans lies). 1988 when U.S. first goes into Iraq, we try to make them become a part of us through a small diplomatic secrecial meeting(it has a name, I forgot I'll try2 post it in a edit) Iraqee's(mispelled that) raise arms to protect their country from this whole ugly christianity invasion. Thus the war we had in the 1980's. Taliban and a few of the others, are people willing to give their lives to protect their rights, their lives, their religon, their god, and their way of life. That's the truth of the original war in iraq, however as far as we know our intent this time is... justice for all people? Oil? Love and peace? Middle eastern style fried chicken? WHO KNOWS! That's the thing... who the **** knows?!?

Anyway, I just want to point out, that the muslim religon has little itself to do with the suicide bombers and "terrorists" or whatever they call them. Some people who SUPPORT the muslim religon, arn't as... peaceful as others. So they raise their hands in name of... their religon - of god! What better reason?! That is what i wanted to point out, and to rant a lil bit about america conspiracy theories that are pretty well-known.

~Tdnfthe1
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-03-17 at 06:51:58
Besides, let's also remmember there have been Christian, Jewish and even Hindu terrorists. These terrorists called themselves followers of a religion, yet disregarded the values of the religions totally and entirely.

And, in the U.S. Air Force, it is very hard to advance unless you are an evangelist protestant christian.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-03-17 at 18:21:55
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Mar 17 2006, 03:51 AM)
Besides, let's also remmember there have been Christian, Jewish and even Hindu terrorists. These terrorists called themselves followers of a religion, yet disregarded the values of the religions totally and entirely.

And, in the U.S. Air Force, it is very hard to advance unless you are an evangelist protestant christian.
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Negative, any one one who is perfectly healthy can be in the air force. you just have to be pretty smart and pass their pyshical and mental tests. Sadly it is usually white men....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-03-17 at 19:23:46
And sadly, I said to advance. Not to get in.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-03-17 at 19:45:13
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Mar 17 2006, 04:23 PM)
And sadly, I said to advance. Not to get in.
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and sadly advance to what? makes no difference. The Airforce does not discriminate.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-03-17 at 20:11:14
The airforce doesen't discriminate or impose evangelist christianity on anyone, right?

That is, of course, why there is a lawsuit against the airforce, right?
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