Report, edit, etc...Posted by Darktica on 2006-04-18 at 23:23:50
Well, ok, ask yourself this:
Is having pets immoral? Is keeping fish in a little tank in your room and barely paying bother to them immoral? Is keeping a moth in a little jar in your room for a few days so you can glance over at it every time you walk by it until it dies immoral?
You can relate zoos to having simple house pets in many ways. I mean, what are house pets for other than to please you? We keep fish in our house because they're colorful and it looks nice in your house. We take care of dogs so we can throw a ball halfway across our yards and make them retrieve it. We keep moths in little jars on our dressers because we like to look at them and understand how they grow and think, why do they keep flying straight into the glass in feeble attempts to escape? Haven't they figured out that there's something blocking their path yet?
That's all we have zoos for: to see and learn about all different types of animals which we can't see everyday.
As for the animal's treatment, I'm sure they're in heaven. Out in the wild they're constantly fighting for survival. In zoos, they're given food, a considerable amount of space, and a nice place to shiz and sleep. In zoos, they have a team of professional breeders tending to them 24/7 who know how to cure sickness and cure other injuries (any that could come up in a zoo, which would be considerably hard to do). Either they're in heaven, or they feel couped up and actually want to be fighting for their survival. No one will ever know this, because none of us are animals, and we can't just ask them "hey man, you good with your cage?".
Someone said that humans try to figure things out too much. I agree with that, but I guess in a way it's the only thing we can do. We were put on this earth lacking what every other living creature does, we don't have fur, we don't have claws or a protective shell, we don't have prefect eyesight or incredible strength, but we do have something everything else doesn't: knowledge. Whatever we lacked, we simply built. Our armor is our shell, our weapons are our claws, our clothes are our fur, our glasses or contacts can correct bad eyesight. We've always been a curious and intelligent species, and we're the only creatures on earth that can understand and control our emotions and feelings.
Like I said, I agree with the fact that we think too much, though. Our knowledge will kill us one of these days, I can garuntee you that.
- Darktica
Is having pets immoral? Is keeping fish in a little tank in your room and barely paying bother to them immoral? Is keeping a moth in a little jar in your room for a few days so you can glance over at it every time you walk by it until it dies immoral?
You can relate zoos to having simple house pets in many ways. I mean, what are house pets for other than to please you? We keep fish in our house because they're colorful and it looks nice in your house. We take care of dogs so we can throw a ball halfway across our yards and make them retrieve it. We keep moths in little jars on our dressers because we like to look at them and understand how they grow and think, why do they keep flying straight into the glass in feeble attempts to escape? Haven't they figured out that there's something blocking their path yet?
That's all we have zoos for: to see and learn about all different types of animals which we can't see everyday.
As for the animal's treatment, I'm sure they're in heaven. Out in the wild they're constantly fighting for survival. In zoos, they're given food, a considerable amount of space, and a nice place to shiz and sleep. In zoos, they have a team of professional breeders tending to them 24/7 who know how to cure sickness and cure other injuries (any that could come up in a zoo, which would be considerably hard to do). Either they're in heaven, or they feel couped up and actually want to be fighting for their survival. No one will ever know this, because none of us are animals, and we can't just ask them "hey man, you good with your cage?".
Someone said that humans try to figure things out too much. I agree with that, but I guess in a way it's the only thing we can do. We were put on this earth lacking what every other living creature does, we don't have fur, we don't have claws or a protective shell, we don't have prefect eyesight or incredible strength, but we do have something everything else doesn't: knowledge. Whatever we lacked, we simply built. Our armor is our shell, our weapons are our claws, our clothes are our fur, our glasses or contacts can correct bad eyesight. We've always been a curious and intelligent species, and we're the only creatures on earth that can understand and control our emotions and feelings.
Like I said, I agree with the fact that we think too much, though. Our knowledge will kill us one of these days, I can garuntee you that.
- Darktica
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kyuubi. on 2006-04-19 at 15:53:14
QUOTE(Darktica @ Apr 18 2006, 07:23 PM)
Well, ok, ask yourself this:
Is having pets immoral? Is keeping fish in a little tank in your room and barely paying bother to them immoral? Is keeping a moth in a little jar in your room for a few days so you can glance over at it every time you walk by it until it dies immoral?
You can relate zoos to having simple house pets in many ways. I mean, what are house pets for other than to please you? We keep fish in our house because they're colorful and it looks nice in your house. We take care of dogs so we can throw a ball halfway across our yards and make them retrieve it. We keep moths in little jars on our dressers because we like to look at them and understand how they grow and think, why do they keep flying straight into the glass in feeble attempts to escape? Haven't they figured out that there's something blocking their path yet?
That's all we have zoos for: to see and learn about all different types of animals which we can't see everyday.
As for the animal's treatment, I'm sure they're in heaven. Out in the wild they're constantly fighting for survival. In zoos, they're given food, a considerable amount of space, and a nice place to shiz and sleep. In zoos, they have a team of professional breeders tending to them 24/7 who know how to cure sickness and cure other injuries (any that could come up in a zoo, which would be considerably hard to do). Either they're in heaven, or they feel couped up and actually want to be fighting for their survival. No one will ever know this, because none of us are animals, and we can't just ask them "hey man, you good with your cage?".
Someone said that humans try to figure things out too much. I agree with that, but I guess in a way it's the only thing we can do. We were put on this earth lacking what every other living creature does, we don't have fur, we don't have claws or a protective shell, we don't have prefect eyesight or incredible strength, but we do have something everything else doesn't: knowledge. Whatever we lacked, we simply built. Our armor is our shell, our weapons are our claws, our clothes are our fur, our glasses or contacts can correct bad eyesight. We've always been a curious and intelligent species, and we're the only creatures on earth that can understand and control our emotions and feelings.
Like I said, I agree with the fact that we think too much, though. Our knowledge will kill us one of these days, I can garuntee you that.
- Darktica
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Is having pets immoral? Is keeping fish in a little tank in your room and barely paying bother to them immoral? Is keeping a moth in a little jar in your room for a few days so you can glance over at it every time you walk by it until it dies immoral?
You can relate zoos to having simple house pets in many ways. I mean, what are house pets for other than to please you? We keep fish in our house because they're colorful and it looks nice in your house. We take care of dogs so we can throw a ball halfway across our yards and make them retrieve it. We keep moths in little jars on our dressers because we like to look at them and understand how they grow and think, why do they keep flying straight into the glass in feeble attempts to escape? Haven't they figured out that there's something blocking their path yet?
That's all we have zoos for: to see and learn about all different types of animals which we can't see everyday.
As for the animal's treatment, I'm sure they're in heaven. Out in the wild they're constantly fighting for survival. In zoos, they're given food, a considerable amount of space, and a nice place to shiz and sleep. In zoos, they have a team of professional breeders tending to them 24/7 who know how to cure sickness and cure other injuries (any that could come up in a zoo, which would be considerably hard to do). Either they're in heaven, or they feel couped up and actually want to be fighting for their survival. No one will ever know this, because none of us are animals, and we can't just ask them "hey man, you good with your cage?".
Someone said that humans try to figure things out too much. I agree with that, but I guess in a way it's the only thing we can do. We were put on this earth lacking what every other living creature does, we don't have fur, we don't have claws or a protective shell, we don't have prefect eyesight or incredible strength, but we do have something everything else doesn't: knowledge. Whatever we lacked, we simply built. Our armor is our shell, our weapons are our claws, our clothes are our fur, our glasses or contacts can correct bad eyesight. We've always been a curious and intelligent species, and we're the only creatures on earth that can understand and control our emotions and feelings.
Like I said, I agree with the fact that we think too much, though. Our knowledge will kill us one of these days, I can garuntee you that.
- Darktica
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part of that is true. people that have pets are for pleasing, entertainment, and such. but its pretty different from zoos. well we do enjoy having pets like cats and dogs around. people that own pets are up to them to take care of them, keep them happy and healthy.
but in our present time, letting humans to take care of them might be the only way to help them. if not, they usually get run over by a car or die from other things and this would still happen sometimes when they are left unattended. there are laws on animal abuse, and you should notice by now that there are far more cats ,dogs, birds, or other animals for people to take home. people do feel the same way you wrote, and some people don't have pets. i guess sometimes that people that do more on trying to help them are doing more harm instead.
but i do think that some animals should be left alone. like birds and fish should have their freedom to fly and swim. there are snakes for sale on local pet shops but i think people wouldn't want to take care of a snake anyway.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-04-19 at 19:32:23
QUOTE(Darktica @ Apr 19 2006, 03:23 AM)
That's all we have zoos for: to see and learn about all different types of animals which we can't see everyday.
- Darktica
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Not true. Zoos have a much more conservational function and purpose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Darktossgen(MM) on 2006-04-22 at 12:55:20
Zoo's are just cruel. It DOES look good when they have Un-endangered species there, but some zoos lists their rareness and there were like 5 different enedangered animals at mine 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-04-22 at 13:00:05
Meh, the animals are kept safe and healthy.
I really dont care if the animals are in cages.
They are animals.
Once they can somehow tell us they dont like it in there, I'll think otherwise.
Its a good thing they have endangered species in there. They are keeping them in a safe environment where they wont go extinct. If anything, they are probably trying to breed them to get their status back to un-endangered.
I really dont care if the animals are in cages.
They are animals.
Once they can somehow tell us they dont like it in there, I'll think otherwise.
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It DOES look good when they have Un-endangered species there, but some zoos lists their rareness and there were like 5 different enedangered animals at mine
Its a good thing they have endangered species in there. They are keeping them in a safe environment where they wont go extinct. If anything, they are probably trying to breed them to get their status back to un-endangered.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-04-22 at 14:54:11
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Once they can somehow tell us they dont like it in there, I'll think otherwise.
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so, if you are put in a cage & your mouth is tied so you cannot talk, everybody will think that it's OK for you ? man, animals have the same feelings as a person
QUOTE(l)ark_13 @ Apr 22 2006, 07:59 PM)
Its a good thing they have endangered species in there. They are keeping them in a safe environment where they wont go extinct. If anything, they are probably trying to breed them to get their status back to un-endangered.
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i agree with that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-04-23 at 16:06:47
Actually, scratch my last statement that if they could tell us they didn't like it then I would think otherwise.
I dont care what animals think
I dont care what animals think
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kyuubi. on 2006-04-24 at 16:42:40
well most animals fight from being captured and thrown into a circus or zoo...animals that get ferocious and start attacking anything for food...i wouldn't claim that to be murder...it's just how they are. some animals in general personality are typical in a species. some may fight agreesively while others can be ver timid and such.
i do agree animals having feelings. they can feel pain, anger, and other emotions similar to humans. taking a baby cub or something from a parent will make them hunt you down or something.
in some zoos, i do see them as cruetly and abusive towards animals only for our benefits. if we can only keep animals from being extinct while letting it become free in the wild.
i do agree animals having feelings. they can feel pain, anger, and other emotions similar to humans. taking a baby cub or something from a parent will make them hunt you down or something.
in some zoos, i do see them as cruetly and abusive towards animals only for our benefits. if we can only keep animals from being extinct while letting it become free in the wild.