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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-06-19 at 15:54:10
Still, in vbscript you end up using your shift key like 1/6th of the time.
And I Dont Like People Who Type Like This Where There Are So Many Capitals That It Drives You Crazy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-06-19 at 18:54:01
To prevent too many complaints, try making the program convert all letters enterred into lower-case,
and have the syntex lower-cased only
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rikimbo on 2006-06-19 at 21:13:00
Haha come on you guys, these are little details. How about we worry and complain about these trivial things after DiscipleOfAdun releases a beta version of the scripting language? smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-06-19 at 21:57:46
and one thing to never forget. Include hotkeys, and possibly make them customizeable. Make sure it tabs right, like DatEd.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-06-19 at 22:39:36
u missed important one that's smart Search Engine to find units and orders whistling1.gif
it that too pressure ? shifty.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-06-19 at 22:52:57
I'm not really sure if this is what you're asking for but heres a list of actions/conditions that I'd like to see included:
  • ability to control a spells range
  • ability to cloak un-cloakable units without a crash
  • ability to give units a movement speed boost
  • ability to make spells use the shield instead of the units energy
  • ability to make spells behave differantly dependant on the targets unit size
  • ability to make a unit carry out a action when it dies (like spawning other units)
  • ability to have multiple actions from 1 order (like attack and ensnare, along with plague)
  • ability to use conditions such as "is attacking" or "is moving"
  • ability to control how many units auto spawn at a time (like larva)
  • ability to control how often a order auto-casts if the conditions are set
  • ability to override orders such as burrow to continue normal movement while burrow'd
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-06-21 at 12:28:27
We'll see what happens. I decided last week to recode FG from scratch(my last build wasn't working right when I tried to add new items). But, I've been rather sick these past couple of days, so it might be a bit until I can start coding....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-06-21 at 12:59:51
whatever u decided I have nothing to complain
i just wish ur development considered for modder's workflow to not uncomfortable
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-06-24 at 11:22:06
I guess I should already know this...but is there anyone here who's knows enough of what they are doing to help actually find the offsets of these things? Doing it alone will take way too long... I just need someone who knows enough asm to know what they are looking for...is that too much to ask?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-06-24 at 16:04:44
I'd love to help, but unfortunately, I never got around to learning ASM... sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-06-25 at 00:28:52
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Jun 24 2006, 09:21 AM)
I guess I should already know this...but is there anyone here who's knows enough of what they are doing to help actually find the offsets of these things?  Doing it alone will take way too long...  I just need someone who knows enough asm to know what they are looking for...is that too much to ask?
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i understand ur alone state
i just can edit RCdata strings in PE by Scrtipting and list of strings data items by 32Dasm
offset seraching and editing is totally not at all in my line
so i don't know and utterly illiterated about ASM
my main force is just CG art creation
and as far as i remember, Among my e-buddies and acquaintance guys who have experience in build program
they are work for just applications with use C/C++
Also they are really indifferent to ASM and Game modding

btw, is there any community for Game Reverse Engineering things anywhere ?
how about try ask to Game Reverse Engineering community if there is community for that ?
they are indifferent to ASM for Game modding ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-06-26 at 15:32:09
http://community.reverse-engineering.net/ ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-06-26 at 19:33:15
Not sure if this is quite what you're looking for, but: resource limit? I mean like, be able to have a third type of resource other than minerals and vespane.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rikimbo on 2006-06-26 at 19:42:02
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Jun 26 2006, 06:32 PM)
Not sure if this is quite what you're looking for, but: resource limit? I mean like, be able to have a third type of resource other than minerals and vespane.
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That sounds like it would require about as much memory restructuring as adding a fourth race, but I don't know. That's just my hunch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-06-26 at 20:05:07
Good hunch. It's pretty close to as much restructureing. Odd, though, that's 2 times today I've had that request....

Anyway...I'm trying to spend as much time on FG as possible. More time I spend on it, less time until I can release it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rikimbo on 2006-06-26 at 20:13:13
QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Jun 26 2006, 07:04 PM)
Anyway...I'm trying to spend as much time on FG as possible.  More time I spend on it, less time until I can release it.
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Good! Because we're all waiting very patiently for it. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-06-28 at 03:55:32
i made some one images for FireGraft for a pastime smoke.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BroodKiller on 2006-06-28 at 05:52:18
crazy.gif Personally, I dislike the MemGraft logo theme.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-06-28 at 08:02:26
You maight want to consider changing your font.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-06-28 at 08:50:25
You beat me to it. I was just about to ask for people to start doing graphics...smile.gif

It's nice....but, I'm kinda reluctant to use that, just because it does mirror Memgraft a bit too much for my liking. However, I'm kinda lost on what to tell you I would like....maybe some random stuff and I can pick/choose what is good.


As a favor - while I'm busy actually coding FG, would someone please look over my list(first post), and see what isn't there. That would greatly help me if I didn't have to do it, and could spend that time coding.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ermac on 2006-06-28 at 08:58:20
A Splash Screen eh? shifty.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2006-06-28 at 10:05:58
Things I noticed you missed

Science Vessel:
Cast EMP Shockwave
EMP Shockwave Hit

Dropship:
Loading Tech
Unloading Tech
Unit's Display (the thing saying how many units are loaded and stuff)

Battlecruiser:
Cast Yamato Cannon

Larva:
Morph to unit

Zergling:
Movement speed tech
Attack speed tech

Hydralisk:
Movement speed tech
Attack range tech
Morph to Lurker

Broodling:
Health-Loss rate
Ammount spawned (when created)

Drone:
Morph to Building
Morph to Advanced Building

Overlord:
Movement Speed tech
Sight Range tech
Carrying units tech
Loading units ability
Unloading units ability

Mutalisk:
Morph to Devourer
Morph to Guardian

Queen:
Cast Ensnare
Ensnare Effect
Ensnare Timer? (probably controlled by Iscript)
Cast Parasite
Infest (Command Center)
Infest unit Restrictions

Defiler:
Cast Dark Swarm
Cast Plague

Scourge:
Attack (Suicide)

Infested Terran:
Attack (Suicide)

Lurker:
Attack when Burrowed
Stop Attacking when Burrowed

Hatchery:
Upgrade Tech
Morph to Lair
Select Larva
Larva Count
Larva Timer
Larva Max

Lair:
Same as above, but morph to Hive instead of Lair

Hive:
Same as the above 2, but doesn't morph

Nydas Cannal:
Spawn Exit
Move units from Entrance to Exit
Move units from Exit to Entrance
Kill Entrance if exit dies
Kill Exit if Entrance dies
Exit Requires creep also

And I'm going to stop at zerg, I'm getting way too bored of typing this
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-06-28 at 10:47:30
Oh yeah, I forgot about these:

Donating minerals/vespene to other players.
Converting minerals to vespene (or vice versa).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-06-28 at 13:31:02
QUOTE
You beat me to it. I was just about to ask for people to start doing graphics

QUOTE
A Splash Screen eh?

that was just picture for pastime, it's not intention to beat u
i didn't made that for use splash maybe it's say to better just fan pic ?
i found photoshop fire filter one of plugin from the web,yesterday
so i just want made some image for fire graft
Also it's good to check how comes PS filter effect for picture
that's why i made that smoke.gif
u can pick/choose what is good among around images if would offered some images for FG
don't reluctant to use that it's not intention to use that...
wat would decide for use or not ,all decision are handed just ur pleases
i don't have mind beat u, off cause i would like if decide for use my next picture later
but that's not important to me wat would accepted or not
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Jun 28 2006, 06:02 AM)
You maight want to consider changing your font.
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as i said... i didn't thought need to consider font
but ur oppionion is need to accept if would i make other one
QUOTE(BK)
Personally, I dislike the MemGraft logo theme.

np , everone each have own opinions
but i did expect u will dislike becuzz i know u like simple things basically
i made thought that ur inclination from by around of ur tellings smoke.gif
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btw.... how about flame colors ? i tried change flame colors from red to green
to blend in Back ground what seen greenly text of Matrix
is that green colors of flame mixed pretty well ?

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QUOTE(TERRAINFIGHTER @ Jun 28 2006, 08:05 AM)
Things I noticed you missed
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And I'm going to stop at zerg, I'm getting way too bored of typing this
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well that some sounds seems looks related to Ai and ohter matters
offcause these are included EXE offset matter too
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ermac on 2006-06-28 at 14:02:16
QUOTE(nirvanajung @ Jun 28 2006, 08:30 PM)
QUOTE(Ermac @ Jun 28 2006, 03:57 PM)

A Splash Screen eh? shifty.gif
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that was just picture for pastime, it's not intention to beat u
i didn't made that for use splash maybe it's say to better just fan pic ?
i found photoshop fire filter one of plugin from the web,yesterday
so i just want made some image for fire graft
Also it's good to check how comes PS filter effect for picture
that's why i made that smoke.gif
u can pick/choose what is good among around images if would offered some images for FG
don't reluctant to use that it's not intention to use that...
wat would decide for use or not ,all decision are handed just ur pleases
i don't have mind beat u, off cause i would like if decide for use my next picture later
but that's not important to me wat would accepted or not
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No, don't ge me wrong, that comment was not towards your screen, or beating it, i just showed my interest in trying to make it, as in "Someone needs A Splash Screen eh?"
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