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People with the head up their asses will still try to hold on to the arguement that evolution is just a theory.

Hey, I BELEIVE in evolution. I am just stating a fact that it has not been proven.

Sure there are some points people have brought up.. humans to apes.. snakes have a place on their bellies where you can tell where their feet used to be, but seriously, is it actually proven?

Become a biologist and you will think that statement is funny. The only reason people have something to argue about carbon dating, fossils, or evelution is because they don't want it to be true. Now I'm not say don't question this stuff because science is all about challenging everything around you, but one thing I do ask is you is to think rationally.


You are correct that is not proven in the fact we have human / ape fossils from almost all stages of human evolution... (see above, some people will argue this is not a fact since we were not actually there to witness it taking place, in which case all history is actually just theory)

hehe challenge everything... yes like in math! all the rules that are there but to prove something true it has to be proven through all examples and it just takes one wrong one to make it totally false, like how do we really no that every single even number added together makes an even number, have you added together every1?

Lol... evolution can never become anything other than a theory because of the of the scientific process.

The Process :
I. Develop a Hypothesis
II. Conduct the Experiment
oooo it's not too easy to conduct an experiment on such a thing, is there?
III. Analyze the Data
Can't analyze data that's not there
IV. Compare the Results
V. Determine a Conclusion

What?
Yeah... it can never become a "law"

Evolution makes way to many assumptions on such matters as carbon dating and etc, how could you call it science?

Yes... assumptions: since when were they allowed in science?


Because you *can* die.

Well armageddan is comming but its not going come from asteroids its going to come from a appoticlitic war with the world. (DAMN BUSH >:D)


Rofl i know what he said Some Ones A Uber Noob xD

damn bush? why i see nothing wrong with his desision to attack if it were me i would probably not be so generus as to rebuild iraq because the point is to stop terrorisism so you destroy them

I have an idea... why don't we have a friendly talk with the terrorists? They are probably pissed at us for ing around with their countries and forcing idealogy upon their beloved religious states. I bet, if we stop being stupid in other countries that aren't even our own, they would leave us the alone. Back in the good old days when america was first it's own country, we had a great foreign policy: isolation. We wouldn't get involved. What so changed that now we need an embassy in every city and trying to convince everyone to be a democracy? If they want to stay a 3rd world country, let them.

By the way in 5 billion years the sun will get biger....

Actualy ... When the sun gets bigger no one knows if it will get big enough to get to the earth... Its called a Red Giant...

I STILL BELIEVE HALO WILL COME TRUE!!!!!!!!!

I JSUT KNOW THE COVENENT EXIST!!!!!!!

BUNGI HAS WARNED US!!!!!!

I hate biology.

I disagree about the history part. There were people who wrote this stuff down (AKA: Witnesses).

There werent any witnesses to evolution.

We read peoples accounts of what happened and come to a conclusion of what really happened. The same goes for evolution, we take peoples research and hypotheses and determine what really happened.

Unless you actually witnessed an even of history, it still could of happened some other way and people just lead you to believe in something else. I would say the Bible falls under that sort of interpreted history, the events and the people many be real but it doesn't mean the people telling the story are accurate. Expecially now after its been translated to so many different "versions".

http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-833.html

CAUTION: Many stupid answers. I think the December 2010 / 2012 ones are pretty convincing; the X-Files said that that's the day Native Americans predicted we'll be invaded by aliens.

So what if the government wants to cover it up? We humans got along alright with developing technologies, if all fails we can always nuke the aliens. And if that fails, we should die anyway. In our history of developing those technologies we've killed our environment pretty bad. We'd probably kill ourselves sooner or later anyway.

That doesn't make sense either.

And I only said that thing about evolution so that some creationist would be like "omg it iznt proven" and i could be like "fine prove god exists " and then id be like "pawnzored!!1".

No... we accept what we believe based on faith.
Evolutionists try to based their beliefs on science. They don't want to have faith in their little theory, they HAVE to prove their beliefs. They will do anything to do so... everything from avoiding researching things that prove them wrong and bull ting around with facts to prove them right... and of course, like previously mentioned, just making assumptions, running with them, and calling them truth.

Because you *can* die. Isn't death the worst drawback to life? Isn't evolution a process where mutations occur to better a species, giving it more advantages in life? Obviously, some mutation where there would be a disadvantage involed would equal death because of survival of the fittest, right? Now if every mutation was looked upon as an upward spiral to perfection, isn't immortality end game then?

Another thing about that... how would a species "start" to evolve without being killed off? Like when things first started growing arms and , they weren't useable arms, were they? I mean... it's not like a some animal without arms popped out an animal with arms and used them right away. Like this frog who can spit out an explosion. How could that have just evolved? It had to be perfect the first time or otherwise the frog would kill itself with it's own chemicals. There could be no gradual evolution from a frog without this ability to a frog with it... no trial and error methods within it's own species.

I'm not some stupid creationist who goes around saying "evolution couldn't have happen because the possibilities of it happening is like 1 out of 1.34 x 10^99999" or use this disassembled watch in a desert with a tornado spinning it around to make it a working watch scenerio. It happened and that's all that counts. Just like there's a 1 in so many oddz that I was born the way I am. Just because the odds were against me that I was born this way, doesn't mean I'm not real. Creationists do come up with some stupid arguements. However...

Evolution claims to be science without using anything scientific. That's all there is to it.


I can prove God exists to myself... that's all that matters. I guess we'll see later who is right.

This has to be the most ironic statement I have ever seen uttered by a creationist.

Believing in whatever you want is easier than looking at the facts and making an educated guess on what really happened. Unfortunately Christianity produces drones like we see up above that feel that faith is something special and some how makes them better Christians.. When all it's really doing is derailing their logic processes so they don't ask questions anymore that might some how cause their heads to explode.

>Evolutionists try to based their beliefs on science. They don't want to have faith in their little theory, they HAVE to prove their beliefs.

No . I do believe this FAITH thing will work out for you however because it takes special people with a special type of thinking to be complete idiots. Let me ask you,.. Which is more valid, belief which you have to keep in check with reality, or your own concotion of whatever the hell you want to believe ... and then you somehow go on to justify its better because you don't have to actually explain why its real.

I was brought up in a house with people like you, and really you all scare the of me... and I am glad I never turned out like you. Thank GOD, that he gave me a brain suffucently capable of realizing that he doesn't actually exist.

Ooooo that's where you are wrong. I do ask questions. Don't persume to know me.


like how evolutionists are derailing the scientific processes...
It's just funny how they run far way from anything that'll prove them wrong. Just like how volcanoes can produce the same layered effect like in the grand canyon in days... but wait... the grand canyon HAD to have it's billions of years in order to be formed the way it did. Nope... you won't find any evolutionists at a newly erupted volcano, because they'll also find out newly formed rock carbon dates to be thousands of years old.

But then again, it's funnier when you have a living snail that, by their dating process, dates to be tens of thousands of years old.



See... this is how it happens: Evolutionists won't dare try to prove themselves wrong. Like I said before, "Evolution claims to be science without using anything scientific", it's just that simple. You want to talk about keeping things in a reality check... talk about your own people.

Creationists can take their beliefs and use science to prove it too.


Lol. Do you think believing in God is easy?
Mmmm... take special note on the "educated guess" part.

dude your ridiculous why dont we have a freindly talk? hmm i dont know that sounds like a great idea :wt e: oh wait thats right THEY CRASHED PLANES INTO THE DAMN WORLD TRADE CENTER if i recall we were leaving them the hell alone there the ones who started it and then expect us to leave them alone theve got to be god damn insane if they think they can screw with america and not get blown to hell who the hell did they think they were messing with we are not Canada were not as peaceful and forgiving

You have only communicated your blind arrogance related the workings of this world rather than any attempt to suggest you do question the things that happen around you.





You use two examples to base your broad claims about the flawed thinking of evolutionary science. This my friend is not the way to go about scientific reason, so I am sorry to say that you are the last person that should critique the science in evolution.

Creationists will do anything to attack carbon dating and they constantly choose to ignore an factual evidence of its validity. Please display your references if you wish to post facts on the internet, perferably from an objective source.

Unlike yourself, I am not about to go and make wide claims of what is true and what is false since I am not a scientist. There are thousands of articals on the internet that will both support and deny your own thoughts on the subject, unfortunately you selectively read what you want and somehow this only further verifies what your looking for. Correct me if I'm wrong but I can almost guarentee you have started at the topic of evolution or creation with prejustice, you are a Christian correct? Since evolution would derail your belief system I can almost guarentee you knew evolution was wrong before you started to ask questions.



I was a Christian too at one time, yet reason enough has changed my views. I have come to the conclusion after observing the way Christians live their lives, that they are very arrogant in their ways. They always seem to be the authority on any subject that would question their faith, lacking any type of healthy thinking process to support their claims. Before you say this again, no I dont want to hear "God is my authority on this subject, so I don't have to give you a logical answer" aka "No... we accept what we believe based on faith."

Nothing good can become of blind reason, and this exactly what your faith is regardless if you will ever be able to see this connection. I also guarentee you won't as long as you walk this Earth, you have been conditioned by your belief system not to question this.


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Are you too foolish to ask why they crashed the plains into the WTC in the first place? Oh and please don't repeat Bush's reasoning around me, "They hate our freedoms -- our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech".. they hate you because you have been ing up the region for a good number of years.

Eh... at least we have similar reasoning in one regard.

So anyways...



Living snail that has been dated to be 27,000 years old
Science, vol 224, 1984, pp58-61

A newly killed seal dated to be 1,300 years old
Antarcitic Journal, vol.6, 1971 p 211

I can keep on listing them... but what's the point? It's not like it's going to matter to you. Although, even some evolutionists say c-14 dating is the suxx0rs. I can even talk about how the comets and sun are dated wrong... Or the milky way "winding up" dilemna: if we were billions of years old, our galaxy wouldn't be a spiral, it'll just be one big cloud of stars.


What was this reason? Or are you just talking about "reason" as a reason?


Yes. Lutheran if that means anything to you. It does make a small amount of difference what branch of christianity...
But I know what you are saying. Let's just pretend one branch of christianity can only be the right saving path. It's far from being the truth, but none the less, let's say only Lutherans can enter heaven. Now, any person born under a catholic household is like 95% doomed be catholic, as long as they remain a christian, no matter what. It's just how they were trained... that they are right and lutherans are wrong. I know this. I bounced around with this idea on my own way back in 7th grade. I asked questions. I have challenged my own faith and I came up with lots of questions I simply can not anwser. Such as the one I already stated either in this post or another: If God was all loving and all knowing, he knew who the devil was going to be as he created the angels. Why did he create something that he knew was going bring mankind into sin and cause us to fall away from him... eventually causing us to be in hell? Why the test?
In HS senior year... I used to sit and talk with a bunch of different religions in a debate room. Gnostics, non-denomation, christians, lutherans, baptists, evolutionists, thestic evolutionists... etc... Everyone challenging everyone, it's quite fun when we all stay mature... you learn a lot. I do remember people changing my views on some topics. So...


Not really. When those people sent a link to read, I read it. I wasn't all gay and like nooooo that's evolutionary crap!!!!1111.

If I grew up with no guidance and had to find my own path... where would I be? Interesting thought...


Do you not think there are creationists and neutral parties as scientists? I mean, what about what they have to say? No, they can't be right about anything because they aren't evolutionists and are only trying to prove themselves right? Not really.

Seriously, do you question evolution yourself? You keep talking about my blind reason, but what about you? If you look hard enough, you will see what you believe in is just the same: blind faith.


But the scientific process... and everything is hardcore. It's not like evolutionists can just bend this to fit their "science."
Where exactly do you believe our starting point to be at? The big bang theory? That the universe just "always" has been there? What?


Some are. It depends on what type of christian and etc. Some are just basically the way you are trying to sterotype me.

Where is this going anyways?
Maybe we are both wrong about life and the real anwser is 42.

Dude, the answer is so totaly seven.

EDIT: At this point i'd like to state that my belief in evolution is based entirely on my faith, and there is no way you can ever prove me wrong. Ever.

Um no... it's 42.


At least you admit it.

I thought armaggedon was just a bunch of meteors that kill bad people
and I heard from someone that it can happen any day, but im non religious so what the hey?

Uh... seriously. You would have to re-think your poll. The end of the world won't come for at LEAST a billion years. I think you have been watching/playing 1 too many movies/games.

The end of the world will either come because of us(humans) doing something extremely stupid, or when the sun dies.

its actually a religious thing, where in the future a bunch of meteors are supposed to come down and brutally kill people, violence in the bible these days.

Wrong-- definitely seven.

Um, yes... thats what i meant.