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That shirt is awesome, nice silk-screen job on it. I never really liked the shirt idea because anyone can make them with iron-on transfers. Plus, do we really want to advertise how nerdy we are?

haha devlin.
ppl want to be judges cause it makes them special for once .
@getaids - You have to change avatars before they consider you as a judge because theres something about retarded midgets that really bother me..(no offense to any midgets or retards here)

That's a puppet. Go see Team America.

I agree with beer.

Why do you all want to be a judge?
Being a candidate, this motivates you to finish your maps, win prizes, if you don't even win a prize, you lose nothing and you even forced yourself to make a nifty new map that you tried your hardest to make and you can release it on b.net.

Your map will remain, these judges will be forgotten after the contest is over. (maybe )

WTF?
I might be oppinionated but i be fair if i need to

Who cares how many people ask to judge. It doesn't say that you have to ask to join the contest, so theoretically there could be a 5 to 1 Player to judge ratio and we'd have no idea about it because they (the players) have no reason to speak up. So let's just get back on the topic of the contest and let whoever wants to be a judge ask to be one.

___-= GL ALL =-___

That signature will need to be removed, and does this mean i get pushed into being a Judge as i entered some prize money? [I had a nice little project going as well...]

I wanna judge too !!!111oneoneone elventy....







.... kidding

Well I got a map I started almost a year ago, it was a fantastic idea but I got totaly stuck and stopt editing. One weak ago I started over, I used the same map but deleted almost everything (the triggers, terrain is almost the same) and I found an totaly other way to do it . So the idea is more then a year old but the trickers are brand new, is this legal ? I think/hope it is but I wanna be sure and do it by the rulez
ow and I got some more questions:
- Could you organize an 'Campaing Of The Year' competition, you have 1 year to make the map (dOh ! ) Something about 10 judges, some will look at the gameplay, others at how the triggers are done, etc. Those things should be: Orginality (importent!), Gameplay, Story, Triggering, Terrain, Fun, Differents (so not 8 'kill-everything-you-see'-maps) Role Playing Factor (do characters evolve, fall in love (stupid I now , just an example, but I would be fun )
- Are you allowd to use all editer/hacks/etc. there are or only the basic Starcraft Editer ?
- Is this the biggest map-making forum ? I've seen some map-making forums but most of them where sub-forums in a bigger one and most of them where quite dead.

Im in, i wont win. But ill try =)

The map can be protect or not !?

You should probably protect it.

But if the judges are supposed to look at the triggers then you may not want to.

omg what about other contest, is anyone even paying attention to it? Arg i already started on my diplo and i cant sumbit it to this contest yet the other one ends to soon..this really really sucks

What other contest? I thought this was replacing the SEN contest that idoL started after idoL dropped out...

well that ain't so complicated you sent an UNprotected map to them (the judges) so they can look how you did all the stuff and you put the protected version online... easy huh

They did, I do.


Sorry that I didn't pick up on this before... but, trigger complexity? Anybody can turn a play WAV trigger into two and make it more complex(and use useless switches[much like Blizzard]). You're looking for trigger simplicity, where something that would normally take 10 triggers are compressed into 2. The creators would simplify their triggers, making it more efficient. You're looking for something understandable and efficient.

I know it says I have no map making skills, but can I enter a map I started working on when the first contest (the one that was cancelled) was announced in october?

By the way: Say i made a map 2 years ago i never released and enterd it, how would you know or prove I didnt make it after the contest was announced?

Couldn't tell ya annnooommmyuuus (or w/e ) But my map is almost done! Just debugging.... i hate debugging ( "GAME OVER" *gasp* THAT wasn't supposed to happen ) especially when its a 3 player map and I can't release it to anyone (but a few friends ) Anyone want to be my friend?

that was exactly what I was going to ask well I think I will score quite some points then (if I ever get my map finishd before 1 january ) I'm working on the intro level (how everything works, you have a megaton of options) and I got 56 switches ! and I'm only on 25% of the trigger part but I could reduce it to 27 (I think) and on one point I couldn't put more effects in a trigger coz I had to activate almost all the triggers but it works now (and lotz faster )
and I got another question: can I submit a campaign ?? plzzzz *crawls on the ground likking your boots*

Coko: You don't have to be a judge.

DK: If you want staredit e-mail then you will get it. The gmail you were supposed to get will be gievn to the positions below.
Trigger simplicity would be appreciated in the terms that you said.
By trigger complexity I meant like using As few locations possible by using a couple of more triggers.
Complex Triggers will also be in using more than 1 trigger efficiently to make 1 action that can't normally be done with just a few actions and conditions in one Trigger. Thus to make that action you would need several triggers.

Deadalus: If you only have terrain and barely have anything else then go for it.


I would recomend you protect those maps, since when the winners are announced the maps will be posted on the front newspage of SEN, thus those maps will get a lot of downloads and they will circulate over public b.net

If you are almost done with a map then you have 2 weeks to submit it. After that time you will no longer be able to submit it or update it ever again to the contest. I can't give you more time because it will be unfair. 2 months with a decent 2-3 weeks of school vacation is a lot of time to make a map.

Yes you can submit campaings, but it will be reviewed on the average of every map.

About what you said of unprotecting maps Devlin: Thats why I want average or better mapmakers. because we already know the trigger when we see it.

okie do, protected maps you'll get, but if I was you I would want UNprotected maps coz I would wanna see how someone managed to do something, maybe he used a trigger on a complete new way or used thousand triggers to move a unit from a to b... And how the heck do you want to rate a map on trigger complexivity (sp?) if you can't open the map

eeeehm, you said:"Submit maps before January 31th 2005." on my calender it is 25-11-'04, dunno what calenders you guys use in the states but it scared the of me I will never be able to complete the map with the complete storyline, full working triggers, all ideas in it, etc. Now THAT would be unfair, I joined SEN only 3 days ago

Well as I said before, how the heck are you going to rate the trigger complex if you can't open the map.... now tell me that heh

We rate based on what we see in the game not in the editor.
I am picking judges that know quite well the triggers because of that. The judges should be able to recognize a trigger when they see it in a game.

You have 2 full months to make a map. During those 2 months you have about 2-3 weeks in which you have no school, which means you suddenly got over 8 more hours a day to do whatever you want.

If you are determined ebough then you have more than enough time.
If you only plan on doing 30mins per day on your map then it isn't enough.

yeah you said that but my question is:
"how can u rate a map on trigger simplicity/complexivity if you can't see how the triggers are used ?"
I mean, if you see that a marine patrols from a to b you will think it is done by the trigger 'order marine at a to patrol to b' but it can also be the trigger 'order all units at a to move to b' and 'order all units at b to move to a' and then preserve it, and you could also do the same thing but without preserver and make thousands of triggers to make it look like the marine actualy patrols, and you could also.... bla bla bla
believe me, something like this exactly happend to me when I rated some maps, if I was u I would want the unprotected map to rate it and put the protected map online... but it's your choise afcourse