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Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2006-08-06 at 06:55:37
In a previous relationship, there was this certain problem. In my current relationship, it's not so much (yet)... but there are some issues with this.

Let's say my girlfriend has a male "friend" who wants to either have sex with my girl or at the very least, be in a relationship with her. By my defination of relationships, both sides have to mutrally want the same thing for it to be a true relationship (example: you can't date someone who doesn't want to date you... so can you be friends with someone who wants something more?).

Now, my stance has been my girl shouldn't go out with such a guy simply out of respect for the relationship and the above statement of relationships. Fake friendships with a member of the opposite sex can only go wrong.

What's your opinions? Am I wrong here? Obvisously there is a blurred line (if the guy takes it to the extreme and is a stalker...), but generally?

Or should it simply be about trust?

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What about ex-boyfriend's who still want my girl back... the situation gets amplified due to them having a past. Whatcha think about friendships between ex's?

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I have a kid... so I have a baby momma, "Mel". My girlfriend is "friends" with Mel, so she knows her quite well. Since we have a kid together, we have this forced relationship. Now, my girl knows Mel wants me back, I'm not completely sure. I offer to give her complete control over my relationship with Mel. She says it's not completely right to let her tell me not to go out with her, etc. I think if she's worried about me and Mel together, and she knows her feelings are justified, she has every reason to tell me what to do or not to do with Mel. Whatcha think?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2006-08-06 at 06:59:55
Maybe you should talk to me about whatever it is your problem is... before deleting data and such. It's rather immature.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-06 at 07:12:06
QUOTE(IsolatedPurity @ Aug 6 2006, 01:55 PM)
Or should it simply be about trust?

I think it should be based totally on trust and absence of controll. If you try to controll your wife so she doesen't have any romance with other men, call her all the time, check her, she will get pissed seriously by that, and cheat eventually. On the other hand, if you let her do what she wants, the chances of her cheating are less, because every person likes freedom. If you give her freedom, understanding will be found.

It's like this: if there is a usual box in a room with a 10 year old child, and you tell him "I will never tell you what is in the box", he is more likely to open the box.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-08-06 at 07:35:58
I dont anyways. Of course it isn't a same sheep. But it has the same structural integrity of the sheep that it was cloned from. It had a different life because all psychology differs from what enviroment they live in. Obviously, the cloned sheep had a different enviroment.
PwnPirate, that isn't a valid proof. Stop second guessing things that even the most knowledgeable scientists in the cloning part aren't even familiar of.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-08-06 at 10:45:17
I said it before I'll say it again :

QUOTE(n2o-SiMpSoNs @ Aug 5 2006, 09:10 PM)

I believe Kathy Bates said it best "Women are the devil"
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Now on a more serious note.

I dont think that girl has the right to tell you what to do you with your relationship. You have to make up your mind as hard as it may be. Just really think about it so you don't end up with neither of them. =/

PS : I think this should be in Lite Discussion. =X
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-08-06 at 10:54:36
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Aug 6 2006, 05:30 AM)
If you don't know who we are or what are we talking about, ask your moose, he knows what is this abaut.

I do?

Fine. Is this what you want?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cole on 2006-08-06 at 13:16:41
I eat newbs like you for lunch and supper! I'd eat ya for breakfast but thats the most important meal of the day so I gotta eat something healthy!

Welcome to SEN!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-08-06 at 13:32:42
Well, there is 'stuff' beyond the event horizon - we just can't see it.

At the centre of a black hole (or the bottom - whatever you want to call it), is a singularity - a point which cannot be described mathematically. All we can say is that at the singularity, space-time is infinitely curved. Of course, when infinity comes into equations, they become unsolvable, so singularities are a bit of a mystery.

I find black holes very interesting, as well as their closely related cousin - wormholes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-06 at 13:48:05
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I find black holes very interesting, as well as their closely related cousin - wormholes.
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I read an article about wornholes... it didn't explain much about how they are created.

But how are they "close relatives" ? Just because of the huge/endless time-space distortion ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-08-06 at 14:28:22
if we were to make a wormhole in the event horizon and go through it, could we escape the black hole?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-08-06 at 14:34:25
Ask the scientists about that...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-08-06 at 15:06:57
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Don't think im evil thinking like that either because I would never kill anybody thats a mortal sin (VERY bad) I don't understand why you think the idea is so creepy...however it works out if God did it or it just happend...I don't care im happy

You are claiming that everything that has ever happened has been the work of God and therefore is completely just. This rather narrow view of the world is.. disturbing.. and impossible to maintain unless you purposefully remain ignorant to the facts. There isn't really any good way to argue with you. Were you to die tomorrow and burn in Hell for all eternity you would happily accept your fate because that's what God wanted for you, am I correct? How can anyone even hope to argue against such an absurd belief system. It's like trying to explain calculus to a four year old, it just isn't going to happen. You need to have some rational basis for understanding the world to even begin to start comprehending more complex facts, but you have not yet reached that point in your life and it would sadden me greatly if you never do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JoJo. on 2006-08-06 at 15:15:12
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You are claiming that everything that has ever happened has been the work of God and therefore is completely just. This rather narrow view of the world is.. disturbing.. and impossible to maintain unless you purposefully remain ignorant to the facts. There isn't really any good way to argue with you. Were you to die tomorrow and burn in Hell for all eternity you would happily accept your fate because that's what God wanted for you, am I correct? How can anyone even hope to argue against such an absurd belief system. It's like trying to explain calculus to a four year old, it just isn't going to happen. You need to have some rational basis for understanding the world to even begin to start comprehending more complex facts, but you have not yet reached that point in your life and it would sadden me greatly if you never do.
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Like I mentioned...Your trying to argue with me or prove me wrong by contradicting my idea..AND also like I said "if there is no God it just happend well...that really sucks for me spending time on him but I think church is fun (yes seriously..) so either way im living happily" Get over it...please..
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Were you to die tomorrow and burn in Hell for all eternity you would happily accept your fate because that's what God wanted for you, am I correct?
No I'd be very pissed at God
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Desperado on 2006-08-06 at 15:17:18
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Like I mentioned...Your trying to argue with me or prove me wrong by contradicting my idea..AND also like I said "if there is no God it just happend well...that really sucks for me spending time on him but I think church is fun (yes seriously..) so either way im living happily" Get over it...please..

Read: I don't know how to respond so please ignore me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-08-06 at 16:04:57
Well I've been hearing more lately that the church of of scientology has become more controversial then ever with things as there scams or fake prohphets but what is this religeon anyway. I watched that episode on south park on it and it gave a short discription but do you think this religeon should be dismissed?
Even some agree that there books and stuff were trash saying how "Xenu dumped humans on the earth and destroyed them with hydrogen bombs making there spirits wander" and some more weird things but what really is this religeon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-08-06 at 16:24:55
It was started by the science fiction L. Ron Hubbard; at first it was supposed to be all science and such, but unlike creationism, was shut down as a science and people stopped coming. After this he started doing it again, but disguised as a religion and was able to manipulate the IRS into giving Scientology church tax-exempt status. The organization first recruits people who are having a hard time or anything like that; at first it's a really nice place and all they ask is small donations, the more you stay the more ruff they'll get with you and will start tapping into any resources that you have left, (your house, car etc...)
Also, the longer you stay in the harder it will be to get out, they give you tests or something with those vibrating metal tubes (e-meter) this is suppose to get the thetans (alien souls) out of your body making you a more able human. How does this keep you in the church? Easy, what you have to do is go through your "past lifes" and find out all of the negative experiences that you had in those past life times. Most of the time you either admit or get manipulated into admitting that you killed someone or something like that. They use this type of information to destroy the reputations of church deserters; they also gain lots of personal information that they give out to other scientologists (mostly lawyers) to either harrass or harm that person, or dig up dirt on the person to ruin their life and credibility. I could give more information but I'm a little rusty on my Scientology facts. Oh, and lastly their headquarters is in Clearwater Florida, its a nice place they control the mayor and the police force in it, check it out sometime.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-08-06 at 16:27:18
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Tom Cruize use your witchcraft to get this fire off of me


yeah scientology is a really wierd religion...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-08-06 at 16:37:56
1. Why aren't I green in the donation list?

2. You need to add my other donation of 666 minerals to my total.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2006-08-06 at 17:18:20
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1. Why aren't I green in the donation list?

2. You need to add my other donation of 666 minerals to my total.
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1. Well that must be because when i was addig you i had problems with my isp and disconected me, creating that the edit got erased so when i added you back i may have forgotten that you were green
2. omg... i'm so damn confused..first voy tells me you gave him 666 now you tell me you gave 666 and you have 559...something like it i mean omg wtf!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falcon_A on 2006-08-06 at 18:19:21
Wow, IP, you're in nearly the exact situation I'm in. And I also have no idea what to do.

Of course, I'm 15, and you're...what, 23? Lol. W/e.

Anyway, you might think you're paranoid, she might think you're paranoid, but I believe you have a right to "question" her "friendship" with this man. You can't force her to not see him, because that would be controlling, which in this case is bad, which would aggrivate her or give her a reason to leave you...however, if you are totally "ok" with it, you might be seen as not really caring if she goes and cheats on you. (Both type of reactions nearly freaked me over.) I think you and her probably have an open enough relationship that you can talk with her about this. Pretty much, tell her the exact same thing you told us. You aren't sure about this guy, you don't wanna manipulate her friendship, but you're concerned, and she should handle herself in a certain way around this male friend, make sure he knows that she doesn't want to be with him...or, if she does, no more bullsh*t with you, and that she can go and date him instead.

As for the situation with you and "Mel", I don't know what to say.

My problem is basically something like this: I'm in love with girl A. Girl A is in love with me. We start to date eachother. Guy A still somehow has feelings for her, although he's been at her house maybe twice, and that was over 2 years ago. Guy A is one of my best friends, I've known him since 2nd grade, we go back before any other friends or people I know. He is very lonely, has no girls to talk to, date, freak, or whatever. He has dreams of raping this girl, has threatened to kill himself if she doesn't date him (a while ago), and my girlfriend continues to talk to him on "AIM", when I'm not around. However, both he and she (and they have sent me a couple convos proving this) understand that she's only asking about me, where I was, etc etc...

The only way I was able to get myself to be able to ignore this was to threaten to kill my friend if he ever goes near her, but she'll never go near him...purely "online" "friendship", or some dumb crap...which is what me and her were for a long time, but we decided to get together after a while.

Somehow, we continue to have a relationship, but this week she got Über jealous of me because I kept going to Girl B's house. Last friday I was there, Saturday I was with Girl A, Sunday I was home, Monday with girl B, Tuesday with girl B, Wednesday with Guy C, (just a friend of mine, but I wasn't talking to or with my "girlfriend", which pissed her off.), Thurday with Girl B, and Friday home, and Saturday night into Sunday (today) with Guy C.

So, she feels I've been ignoring her and she wanted to manipulate my relationship with Girl B, and I wanna manipulate her relationship with Guy A.

Funny how it's like the same thing, isn't it? Just kinda the other way around.

Oh yeah, did I mention how Guy A introduced me to Girl A, "accidently"? while they were dating, and she picked me over him? Whatever.

Sorry for rambling about myself.

Back to you.

Anyway, relationships with ex's are probably the worst, because if they keep talking, that means that whatever sparked them to get together in the first place might bring them together again. My friend was with this girl one time, who as soon as her ex said he would take her back, she dropped my friend in a heartbeat.

I agree with you that she should at least tell you the way she feels about you and Mel possibly getting back together. Which is pretty much the same with you being able to tell her how you feel about her and her "male friend". Whether or not you take eachother's feelings into account when you think about your relationships with these people is what really matters, and you (plural) might not do that even though your (plural) significant other might want you to not see them anymore.

Fake friendships can only go wrong is true indeed. Doing something like that might make the person think they have a chance at dating you if you don't totally shut them out, which would be the operative move if they were enough dicks to date and break up with beforehand.

Good luck in your situation, I believe that you should talk it over with your girl, and you have your rights to be worried, and she has her rights to be worried as well. But since you love eachother, you should be able to trust eachother enough to resolve it where you end up spending time with eachother instead of your friends anyway...or in your case, your "baby momma".

Oh yeah, kudos if you actually read all of this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-08-06 at 18:35:49
QUOTE(Jammed @ Aug 6 2006, 05:47 PM)
I read an article about wornholes... it didn't explain much about how they are created.

But how are they "close relatives" ? Just because of the huge/endless time-space distortion ?
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Because a wormhole is essentially a black hole with a ring-shaped singularity (it has a hole in the middle). A wormhole is different from a black hole because instead of being a hole with a 'bottom,' it is a rip in space-time that allows particles to move from one place in space-time to another. In this way a particle could travel in time, for example.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JoJo. on 2006-08-06 at 19:18:48
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yeah scientology is a really wierd religion...
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agreed
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JoJo. on 2006-08-06 at 19:33:27
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Because a wormhole is essentially a black hole with a ring-shaped singularity (it has a hole in the middle). A wormhole is different from a black hole because instead of being a hole with a 'bottom,' it is a rip in space-time that allows particles to move from one place in space-time to another. In this way a particle could travel in time, for example.
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exuse me if this post is stupid..
whats the 5th dimension? is the concept of the wormhole that it has such a high mass that it has a powerful enough gravitational field
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Objects in a gravitational field experience a slowing down of time, called time dilation.
that make time go into the negative beyound the event horizon?? Which causes space time to reverse itself and cause "time travel"??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Laser_Dude on 2006-08-06 at 19:55:43
If you aren't in for some serious, serious science discussion, skip over this post, but for the science lovers (like me) read on.

OK, Basically, you make a black hole by crushing enough matter into a small enough space. The "event horizon" is the point at which, if anything passes this "divide", it cannot escape, even light.

The faster you move, the slower time goes (from someone else's point-of-view). The reason you can never reach the speed of light is because, the closer you get to your goal, the more time slows down and the more energy you have to spend(which doesn't get you anywhere). From the point-of-view of a standstill person, that energy goes into mass. The reason you will never reach the speed of light is that your mass increases (exponentially). Should you reach the speed of light your mass would become infinite. But that would take infinite energy, which we can't get.

That problem solved, gravity and acceleration (there is no way to tell the difference) would slow down time. Thus, being near the event horizon of a black hole would slow down time(from someone else's point-of-view). If you were at the event horizon of a black hole, everyone else would appear to be at a standstill, but unless you're orbiting at the speed of light you would get sucked in. Never to escape.

7-7, I don't know where you got that picture, but it's waaaay off. A black hole (hence the name) would appear to be completely black. That is because the photons(light) would get sucked into it, and thus, never reach your eyes.

Black holes, surprisingly, do emit something. You might ask how. Well, the immense energy in the black hole is causing energy to be converted into matter. Particles and Anti-particles appear around the black hole and instantly innhililate each other. Occasionally these particles appear right on the event horizon, one of them gets sucked into the black hole, giving the other a boost, the one that didn't go into the black hole flies off. Unfortunately, this theory cannot be detected due to the lack of sensitive enough equipment.

The problem with the mathematics of black holes is two competing theories, quantum mechanics, and general relativity. Quantum mechanics is used for things very small and light, like atoms, whereas general relativity is used for very large and heavy objects. Quantum mechanics doesn't include gravity, and general relativity doesn't include the strong, weak, or electromagnetic force. What do you use for an object very small and very heavy?

If this is too much to take in, I'm sorry, I've just finished a very interesting book on black holes, string theory, extra dimensions, and relativity. If you're interested, it's called The Elegant Universe by Brian Green.
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