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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zergling-373 on 2006-08-06 at 21:13:42
Hi guys i join this place to get maps and to put some of my maps on here and just need to know does anyone have any idea how to make a Starcraft exe Program
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-08-06 at 21:40:06
You're explaining that the time slows down from the view of the person who is watching them going through the event horizon. Which is only the view of the person OUTSIDE the event horizon. You see, black holes have super high gravity that sucks even the light. Which means if they are crossing the event horizon, you shouldn't be able to see their motion inside the event horizon because no light can come out. Exactly why the effect goes on... So in reality, the time doesn't stop. Its just the view from the outside of the event horizon.

In relativistic views, you could go through the black holes if you use quantum mechanism method...

Type Quantum Tunneling at www.wikipedia.com
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-08-06 at 22:05:16
Then I don't get the point why you people are posting in serious discussions.
The way I view this is that JoJo is a hardcore believer in religion. But I doubt those beliefs are not even close to the real one, because there is no "real" or "false" in belief, and belief is just "belief" where as you have to have belief on something unproved which makes it hard. It's a good test of will.

I am unsure if Desperado is religious or not, but I believe he is a little or more so familiar with theology. Otherwise, he is just a piece of paper written in vinegar without the tool to read.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-08-06 at 22:07:23
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I dont anyways. Of course it isn't a same sheep. But it has the same structural integrity of the sheep that it was cloned from. It had a different life because all psychology differs from what enviroment they live in. Obviously, the cloned sheep had a different enviroment.
PwnPirate, that isn't a valid proof. Stop second guessing things that even the most knowledgeable scientists in the cloning part aren't even familiar of.

You are constantly speaking of how scientists do not believe this or that yet.
Why don't you give me a link of where the world's leading authority on the topic of cloning simply states "I do believe that Dolly the sheep was the same exact sheep as the one it was cloned from." Then maybe I can validate your responses, and maybe I can stop "second-guessing". Because it basically sounds like you are putting words in their mouth. It must be so easy for you, since you seem to be on the inside information of cloning. So simply post a link.


Dolly the sheep is obviously not the same sheep as the sheep it was cloned from. Do you know how implausible that is? Twins are not the same as one another, they simply have the same genetic coding, you know yourself that this is the same with clones. There's obviously solid evidence of this. Solid enough to make a statement. There's absolutely no evidence of the side you seem to be supporting for no reason. So basically there is no reason to support it. You shouldn't just disagree with people for the sake of disagreeing with them, that makes no sense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-08-06 at 22:45:01
wow. how are you concluding my statement as being the same sheep? different psychology means they are seperate.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-08-06 at 23:45:22
It's more like a good test of stubborness.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JoJo. on 2006-08-07 at 00:19:25
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It's more like a good test of stubborness.
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If god is real then your ganna be freaked buddy...if not...idc I wish you'd stop dissing church and God. Just say what you belive and why and get on with another topic
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-08-07 at 00:59:48
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If god is real then your ganna be freaked buddy...if not...idc

Why that argument is flawed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2006-08-07 at 01:11:03
Sounds like she trusts you, if you wanna stay out of trouble you should do the same.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Laser_Dude on 2006-08-07 at 01:13:25
Well, personally I don't believe in a divine all-powerful being.

However, to many people the concept of a god gives life a purpose. And the fact that they are achieving a purpose makes them feel good. It also improves society. If I was to give you 50$ every time you did something nice, but out of your way, would you do it? Now, how about if you had to do not for the purpose of getting the money. How about if I told you that if you lived a good life, you would receive eternal happiness? How about if I told you if you didn't live a good life, or did what I've been saying grudgingly? Would you then live your life well? My life has enough purpose in it to not care for religion. The question is, if you do this stuff, will I follow my promises?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nayed on 2006-08-07 at 01:16:52
There is one main thing that keeps me from believing in Evolution... no matter how cool it sounds. If we evolved from primates- apes, monkeys, etc. then why aren't the primates still evolving today?

Btw, even if I tried, I wouldn't be able to get myself to not believe in God.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Laser_Dude on 2006-08-07 at 01:20:19
the fact that we evolved from primates was a theory, unfortunatly, they have a different number of chromosomes, and are thus an entirely different species. However, natural selection (half of evolution) has been proved in a lab. So has genetic mutations (the other half). But what did we evolve from then? I dunno. I don't think anyone knows.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-08-07 at 01:23:12
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There is one main thing that keeps me from believing in Evolution... no matter how cool it sounds. If we evolved from primates- apes, monkeys, etc. then why aren't the primates still evolving today?

They are still evolving. Organisms don't evolve, populations do.

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Yes, I've asked many people who are religious to just pretend there is no god. They've all failed. It's this close-minded attitude that makes you oblivious to the truth. And by "truth", I mean logic. blushing.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Laser_Dude on 2006-08-07 at 01:27:34
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Aug 6 2006, 10:22 PM)
there is no god. They've all failed. It's this close-minded attitude that makes you oblivious to the truth.
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You don't get the point do you? It's not about whether or not god is real. It's about what makes you feel good about life in general. If you found out that all the ideas from the matrix are real, would you still eat good food? Play Starcraft? Or even care about life at all? It's the fact that it feels good to eat something good. Who cares whether or not it's real.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-08-07 at 02:04:52
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You don't get the point do you?  It's not about whether or not god is real.  It's about what makes you feel good about life in general.  If you found out that all the ideas from the matrix are real, would you still eat good food?  Play Starcraft? Or even care about life at all?  It's the fact that it feels good to eat something good.  Who cares whether or not it's real.
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But your own selfish fantasies can effect the rest of society because of your own purposeful ignorance. I wouldn't really care what any one believed in, but since whacked out beliefs can come together and become a powerful external force. (Look at children's crusades, 9/11, and many other religious causes) I tend to care.

But you are right, that is the point. That is the entire point why people believe in these things. To be happy. The primary reason why most religious people are religious, is to be happy. Not because it's real, but because it makes you happy. This is a major motive that seperates atheism from over all religion.

I don't know about other atheists, but I would MUCH rather prefer there being a nice new testament god than there being none. It adds a better meaning to the world. It doesn't make it seem so empty. But the reason why I'm atheist, is NOT because deep down inside I "want" there to be no god. It's because deep down inside I "think" there is no god.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-08-07 at 02:45:46
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You don't get the point do you?  It's not about whether or not god is real.  It's about what makes you feel good about life in general.  If you found out that all the ideas from the matrix are real, would you still eat good food?  Play Starcraft? Or even care about life at all?  It's the fact that it feels good to eat something good.  Who cares whether or not it's real.
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It's not about whether or not it feels good, it's whether or not it's right. If someone said murder was fun, would you let them to do it because it allows them to feel good? I know I wouldn't.

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But you are right, that is the point. That is the entire point why people believe in these things. To be happy. The primary reason why most religious people are religious, is to be happy. Not because it's real, but because it makes you happy. This is a major motive that seperates atheism from over all religion.

I highly doubt they do it to make themselves happy. It depends on entirely how you were raised. Everytime I see a kid who's religious, I know their parents are religious. Rarely do you see a child whose parents are atheists and himself devoted to religion to be happy. I've never encountered such a child.

However, if they were raised that way, then it is entirely possible they will believe that by being religious, they will be happy. Logically, this is wrong; since it's possible to be happy without a belief (or with a belief that doesn't interfere with logic), I don't understand why you would limit yourself to only that set of beliefs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-08-07 at 02:46:43
I was good friends with a girl like that, and when she started dating, I talked to her a lot less. Because I knew the line. Most guys do, and this guy you're talking about is simply right on the line. And he KNOWS he's on the line. He's just there for either a move, or a rebound. And as long as he's there, chances are, he's gonna talk bad about you behind your back. If she says a bad thing about you, he's gonna agree with her asap.

For those guys that are in this situation, do NOT bring up this topic with your girl friend. Only time you should talk about it, is if you know she's been cheating on you or if she's the one that brings it up. And if she does bring it up, say something along the lines of, "I never worry about it, because I love and trust you."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-08-07 at 02:59:42
Of course part of it is how you're raised. Everyone already knows that. I meant more towards the continuing reason why people believe in religion. I'm not just talking about stupid 15 and 20 years old. (People our age) I'm talking primarily about people 30+ years old. If you ever get into arguments with them, they'll show much more apathy towards the truth, then say a 15 year old would.

As for the atheist parent thing, i'm sure just about as many atheist raised children grow up to be religious, as religiously raised children grow up to be atheist. The biggest reason why you havn't seen any, is because atheist parents are pretty hard to come by. Infact, I never met atheist parents face to face before. And if I did, I didn't even know.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JoJo. on 2006-08-07 at 03:13:21
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Aug 6 2006, 11:45 PM)
It's not about whether or not it feels good, it's whether or not it's right. If someone said murder was fun, would you let them to do it because it allows them to feel good? I know I wouldn't.
I highly doubt they do it to make themselves happy. It depends on entirely how you were raised. Everytime I see a kid who's religious, I know their parents are religious. Rarely do you see a child whose parents are atheists and himself devoted to religion to be happy. I've never encountered such a child.

However, if they were raised that way, then it is entirely possible they will believe that by being religious, they will be happy. Logically, this is wrong; since it's possible to be happy without a belief (or with a belief that doesn't interfere with logic), I don't understand why you would limit yourself to only that set of beliefs.
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my mom, dad, and step mom, are atheists..i am religous
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-08-07 at 03:22:04
Scientology is no different than any other religion. All it's missing is 100-200 years.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JoJo. on 2006-08-07 at 03:28:32
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Scientology is no different than any other religion. All it's missing is 100-200 years.
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Read post number 2...if thats true well i'd say it is different than other religions..I noticed you didn't disagree with his post
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-08-07 at 09:14:33
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-08-07 at 09:42:47
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As long as you continue to be at least slightly meaner than her suck-up male friend, you will continue to have her as a lover. However, women ARE emotional creatures and DO need shoulder's to cry on from time to time. For that reason, don't be surprised if you get a "concerned older brother" type phonecall from this guy and he knows more than he should about your private relationship problems. Women are really wierd about these guys. I've been that kind of male friend in the past AND I've had to put up with them.

You really don't have to worry about her cheating on you with him unless you screw up REALLY bad. This guy's sexuality is so non-threatening to yours that she will likely never make that turn. But you can't call him on his true motives either because for SOME reason girls wish to remain in denial about the alterior motives of their best guy friends. They know just as well as you that the guy has feelings he can do nothing about, they just don't want YOU to say anything about it. Sooner or later, he won't be able to hold back his "true feelings" anymore, and then she will file the restraining order. He will take care of himself.

#2

Ex boyfriends... Hmmm... The more abusive the guy was, the greater the chance she will go back. You have to maintain the dominance in the relationship between you two for the best chances, but some girls are just too stupid for their own good. I hope your girl is not.

#3

The fact that your current girlfriend and your kid's mom know eachother pretty well is probably going to be a contributing factor the relationship's eventual downfall (when you're being an ass like all guys are sometimes, they will have an enemy in common at that point). I probably don't have to tell you that you should never doubt the power of the mother's feelings (if she has them). You are going to know your kid's mom for the rest of your life, but you probably aren't going to know this other girl for that long.

My advice: I don't know the story between you and your boy's mom, but I would say give that another try. I know you both have your differences, but a MATURE relationship requires that the couple work together in spite of such differences. But be careful with her, don't take her back unless you really mean to WORK at it. A sturdy, longlasting relationship takes WORK. The longer you keep this other girl in the picture, the more likely it is that you're going to do something that NEITHER of them can forgive. It's gonna be a tough call for you. Your baby's mama knows how to push your buttons in the wrong way (believe me, I know), but she also knows how to push them the right way. For that reason, if you two stay fairly close while you or she dates someone else, you two WILL cheat on your partners with eachother. Been there, done that. Make a clean, careful call. You don't want a custody fight.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-08-07 at 10:53:18
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Scientology is no different than any other religion. All it's missing is 100-200 years.
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Your a fool if you think it's like all the major religions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-08-07 at 11:17:23
I think I read somewhere that he was high when he wrote the book, but that might not be true.
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