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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-12 at 18:43:07
QUOTE(superpenguin @ Aug 12 2005, 06:06 PM)



  • an important lesson to learn : don't mistake what you think for what you know smile.gif especially when guessing if something is or not impossible. when the future prove you wrong you may or may not look stupid (depending if you react as good as yoshi for example), but it's still better to avoid to be wrong in the first place smile.gif



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I regretted making those news posts about rumor and people's research how viruses were impossible (people misinteruppted what I was trying to say). At this point, I'm going to change the way I make news posts for now on.

Hey, I'm only human. It was a learning experience for all of us wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by evolipel on 2005-08-12 at 18:58:13
QUOTE(T.s.u.k.a.s.a @ Aug 12 2005, 05:19 PM)
...since EUDs didn't pose a threat. Besides, if I had mad programming skills I might even be able to execute a small virues with a play wav trigger and a dupe map that constantly shows the text "Preparing Map. Please Wait...", no help from EUDs.
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Ok, now first of all... who are you to say that EUD triggers didn't pose a threat? Are you an expert at code injection? Not only did a more knowlegeable person say that there are methods to doing it (with EUD triggers), but regular triggers pose no immediate threat if more buffer overflows aren't found.

Let me get this straight, you're saying that if you had knowledge in programming, you'd somehow find a buffer overflow in the .wav playback code and manage to execute code? How do you know that such an exploit exists? Or was it just pure speculation that a large portion of SC trigger execution/wav playback code was insecure and contained a crapload of exploits?

Back to my point: go ahead, try to find another buffer overflow that could be exploited by SC maps to prove that EUD's weren't a significant problem in comparison. Or, prove to me that EUD's didn't pose a threat at all. Just because no virus maps popped up yet doesn't mean that it's not possible.

Blizzard's goal was to make SC as safe as possible, and leaving a hole in that they know about which could be used to execute malicious code wasn't part of the plan. If a virus map was ever made, they'd get a ton of complaints from the non-map making crowd. You can't compromise the safety of the whole user base just so that a portion could have freedom to do whatever the hell they wanted while making a map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-12 at 19:02:55
Patches don't corrupt replays. Replays become unviewable after certain patches. There is nothing 'corrupt' about them that prevents you from watching them in the version they were made for. Please stop using this word improperly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-12 at 19:06:46
Can someone punish all those people who posted 5 page of politics? Since that was just really retarded for posts and minerals. Go to sleep for 6 hours and come back to 27 pages. -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-12 at 19:11:58
Nothing was reported from this thread either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by darth_ender on 2005-08-12 at 19:16:09
Hey, I am going to put in my calmer two cents.
EUD's are gone. I'm sad about it. If Blizzard thinks they were a potential threat, who am I to disagree, though I'd hope it wasn't true?
On the other hand, I don't feel it's right to condemn DK. I feel I had a good post earlier about radium and Marie Curie. I believe everything he seeks is not for the purpose of destroying Starcraft, but rather expanding it. If his methods have potential problems, better that Blizzard learn from us than from someone who really wanted to do something malicious. But if it turns out he finds more good things without bad side-effects, then the whole benefits. I don't think the loss of replays is as important (no offense, I suppose I'm biased) as the potential growth for the UMS map-making community. I feel the benefits of his research far outweigh the hazards. Just don't get too upset. We are all fans of a beautiful game. Some of us just hope for even more.
Forgive me for anything rude I have said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by superpenguin on 2005-08-12 at 19:20:32
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Aug 12 2005, 04:43 PM)
I regretted making those news posts about rumor and people's research how viruses were impossible (people misinteruppted what I was trying to say). At this point, I'm going to change the way I make news posts for now on.

Hey, I'm only human. It was a learning experience for all of us wink.gif
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i named you as "a good example", your lastest annoucement sum up a large part of i could have put in my post too. I'm more worried about people that still claim that blizzard did the patch just to annoy them personnaly : if you had as much knowledge of the game as Blizzard had, you would approve this decision.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ihatett_da_hated on 2005-08-12 at 19:27:29
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Aug 12 2005, 05:11 PM)
Nothing was reported from this thread either.
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Funny, I thought I reported DK. Different thread?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-12 at 19:28:37
I thought I reported too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l2k-Warrior on 2005-08-12 at 19:50:39
I knew EUD were going to get removed :S Oh well. Personally I think Blizzard should of spent more time fixing things like Map Hacks, Winbots, and maps that crash SC but what can you do about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-12 at 19:59:35
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I new EUD were going to get removed :S Oh well. Personally I think Blizzard should of spent more time fixing things like Map Hacks, Winbots, and maps that crash SC but what can you do about it.


EUD maps crash MACs, so they were fixing a crash glitch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-12 at 20:06:29
QUOTE(superpenguin @ Aug 12 2005, 07:20 PM)
i named you as "a good example", your lastest annoucement sum up a large part of i could have put in my post too. I'm more worried about people that still claim that blizzard did the patch just to annoy them personnaly : if you had as much knowledge of the game as Blizzard had, you would approve this decision.
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I checked out the www.battle.net forums, and some people are going nuts. In my opinion, it would of been nice, but not necessary.


QUOTE(ihatett_da_hated @ Aug 12 2005, 07:27 PM)
Funny, I thought I reported DK.  Different thread?
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I got nothing. It must have been a different one.


QUOTE(Tavrobel @ Aug 12 2005, 07:59 PM)
EUD maps crash MACs, so they were fixing a crash glitch.
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Extended Players crash MACs as well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-12 at 20:08:02
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Extended Players crash MACs as well.


Ohh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the the information.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Scheisse on 2005-08-12 at 20:22:58
Recently, I have started my own research. I call it, "The Mix Factor." First off I need some Pasta, then some Spaghetti. Then you add a pint of Salt, and a bit of cheese. Then you got yourself StarCraft Macaroni! PWNED GG NOOBS! I AM DEATHKNIGHT W00TZ0RZ!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by I-X-King-X-I on 2005-08-12 at 20:36:10
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Aug 12 2005, 05:11 PM)
Nothing was reported from this thread either.
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i kinda find that amazing lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-12 at 21:46:48
I clearly remember reporting at least twice in this thread...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-12 at 21:59:20
Again another problem solved by prodject revolution. Every trigger you could ever wish for plus custom crap without moding in a Wc3 run SC. Everything would be exactly like sc except maybe carriers cuss of lag for the time being until we can get some better&cheaper hardware out. Oh yeah im back this is the first time if ever heard of these so called "god triggers" even though you can still do more in coding.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SuperToast on 2005-08-13 at 00:05:58
QUOTE(Kept_Wheat @ Aug 12 2005, 07:59 PM)
Again another problem solved by prodject revolution. Every trigger you could ever wish for plus custom crap without moding in a Wc3 run SC. Everything would be exactly like sc except maybe carriers cuss of lag for the time being until we can get some better&cheaper hardware out. Oh yeah im back this is the first time if ever heard of these so called "god triggers" even though you can still do more in coding.
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Only one problem with that, WC3 isn't starcraft.

Last time I checked I played starcraft not WC3.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by www.com.au on 2005-08-13 at 02:06:45
took me a while to work out, but the 1.13b patch also stops deathknights TRIGGERS OF GOD triigers from working (ie; th death count stuff and terrans with shields)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-13 at 02:31:08
... that's like the only thing they are supposed to do. closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by I-X-King-X-I on 2005-08-13 at 02:39:20
QUOTE(www.com.au @ Aug 13 2005, 12:06 AM)
took me a while to work out, but the 1.13b patch also stops deathknights TRIGGERS OF GOD triigers from working (ie; th death count stuff and terrans with shields)
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thats what the patch was all about rofl
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-13 at 07:28:55
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took me a while to work out, but the 1.13b patch also stops deathknights TRIGGERS OF GOD triigers from working (ie; th death count stuff and terrans with shields)


Extended Unit Deaths Triggers are the Triggers of God.
Have you been following us for the last month, or have you simply not chosen to listen? The whole purpose of 1.13b is, as all the others have said before me, to patch them out and specifically make them not work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by I-X-King-X-I on 2005-08-13 at 07:41:44
QUOTE(Tavrobel @ Aug 13 2005, 05:28 AM)
Extended Unit Deaths Triggers are the Triggers of God.
Have you been following us for the last month, or have you simply not chosen to listen?  The whole purpose of 1.13b is, as all the others have said before me, to patch them out and specifically make them not work.
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well said
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-08-13 at 09:39:30
OMG SOMEONE ATE MY BURGER!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by I-X-King-X-I on 2005-08-13 at 10:06:57
QUOTE(.Coko[CK] @ Aug 13 2005, 07:39 AM)
OMG SOMEONE ATE MY BURGER!
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stay on topic closedeyes.gif (which is religion, candians, japanese, koreans, bush, iraq, nuns, and aboriyton if you dindt know )
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