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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-03-27 at 23:45:01
Replying to post #73. Half the stuff you put up there wasn't backed up. Calling me gay every 2 seconds is about as unoriginal as repeating (only losing quality) what people just above you said (refering to post #68). I didn't say 15 and under are the early stages of life; I consider the early stages of life to be 29 and under. The diffrence between someone who has to hold a job, someone who has just moved to high school and someone who's still in elementry school is huge. Older people have access to different places. There are a lot of obvious reasons I didn't mention in my post. If we're still here, talk to me in 3 years and tell me what you think of people 3 years younger than you now.
You basically still disregarded what I said, you didn't say why it's wrong or anything you just decided it would be good enough to prove what an ignorant prick you are by being an uncreative dip shit =D All those insults coming from someone who can't even communicate perfectly in his own language (whether not weather). My point being don't try to type perfectly and then make a dumb mistake like that (all or nothing). Typos are acceptable, but mispelling common words like that is rediculous.
As for something ontopic, if you're Christian you're not only putting your faith in God, you're putting faith in people who tell you what God's will is. They could be making it all up. My point being that when it was decided homosexuality is a sin it could have quite easily been the desire of leaders to keep their population as high as possible thus, having more couples procreate. This coming from the belief of many atheists that religion is just a form of control (which is well backed in my opinion).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-03-27 at 23:55:01
QUOTE(PsychoTemplar @ Mar 27 2005, 11:45 PM)
...someone who can't even communicate perfectly in his own language (whether not weather). My point being don't try to type perfectly and then make a dumb mistake like that (all or nothing). Typos are acceptable, but mispelling common like that is rediculous.
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Spell check got the better of me.

I'm not going to bother rebutting everything else said in your post individually, I'll just say this: Any person who is capable of learning could have studied Christian beliefs and formed an opinion about their thoughts on teh gayness. Having said that, your point is null and void. Go home.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-03-28 at 00:10:10
After reading those last few posts does anyone see why I hate (with exceptions) 90-borns so much?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-03-28 at 00:17:40
EDIT: Never mind. At times I forget how gay the rest of my age group can be. You're right, I admit. It's just that I hate being lumped in with certain "90's borns."

Now, we should get back on topic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-03-28 at 00:38:11
ok we got all off subject here so what are we talking about other things then?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by pimpinelephant on 2005-03-28 at 04:14:56
I LIKE DUCKS!!!
What im trying to say is that is true love, you know the kind where the couple can have everything bad happen to them but still hold though it cuz they really love eachother, in a gay relationship??? thats all im asking, no more, no less!!! If so, name one example of this!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-03-28 at 05:53:18
Funny how, most SD topics end up turning into Christians vs Atheists...

So anyway, the thread topic description is stereotypical, as not ALL Christians do those things.

As for my position... I'm a straight person. I think we should treat them as any other person. I don't believe in man-to-man love, but I'm not going to fiercely oppose it, (kinda like how the atheists here seem to do to Christianity). Funny how lesbianism is more accepted in society.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-03-28 at 11:38:40
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What im trying to say is that is true love, you know the kind where the couple can have everything bad happen to them but still hold though it cuz they really love eachother, in a gay relationship??? thats all im asking, no more, no less!!! If so, name one example of this!!!

Who could I possibly name that you would know? Don't make irrational assupmtions. The only gay couple that might be widly known to prove this would be the fags who won the amazing race. They were cool, they went through quite a bit. Don't go saying you can't love someone unless you've had everything destroyed because you're a tard.
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Funny how, most SD topics end up turning into Christians vs Atheists...
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Funny how lesbianism is more accepted in society.

You think a lot of things are funny don't you chuckle ****? It's not funny at all, it's only logical that it would end up being the only religion that is opposed to gays (and is popular) vs everyone who isn't Christian; don't assume everyone who isn't Christian is Atheist. Obviously people are less opposed to lesbianism because they're lonly tarts who like to watch. If you were trying to be subtle don't bother next time, all it does is sceam out "I THINK IM SUPERIOR TO YOU!!!!!".
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So anyway, the thread topic description is stereotypical, as not ALL Christians do those things.

As for my position... I'm a straight person. I think we should treat them as any other person. I don't believe in man-to-man love, but I'm not going to fiercely oppose it, (kinda like how the atheists here seem to do to Christianity).

He never said ALL Christians are prejudice assholes. You need to realise whenever someone names a group of people they don't mean every single person in the group.
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but i know that there he a hell of alot of christians

Key word, a lot, you can't deny someone of their own experiences.
Though no one has given me a strait answer I think it is clear now that in Christianity being homosexual is a sin. Therefore it shouldn't be unfair to think all serious Christians don't have some sort of grudge against gays. If you can't say why you dislike them, only that you think God told you to, that is sad.

To be honest all of this is as dumb as all countries thinking that God is on their side.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-28 at 15:31:00
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Gays vs. Christians, why do christains make fun of them?


IT DOESN'T SAY SOME. IT GROUPS ALL OF THEM TOGETHER. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO.

There, now perhaps you saw what I posted like three times tongue.gif

Besides which, pyscho, you're flaming more and more as this topic progresses.
And you called your moderator an asshole. Which makes me cry. And when I cry, I push the shiny warn button.

I move that we lock this topic, unless someone has a valid point they'd still like to discuss?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by pimpinelephant on 2005-03-28 at 16:56:16
I LIKE GORILLAS!!!
well, PsychoTemplar, to tell you the truth, I am still waiting for an answer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-03-28 at 17:03:09
I'm waiting for a response to my post. It's pretty obvious you don't know what true love is. You see, like I said, there is no difference, at all. Are you going to tell someone who they should love? If so, how are you in the position to do that? What gives you the right to tell someone else what to do?

Also, I would like to point out, your first sentence on every post is spam. It is ironic that Firekame would go point out obscure flaws from another person, then simply ignore spam from a person who doesn't know what he's talking about at all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-03-28 at 18:17:10
Okay, I'm going to try to take this easy, and then I'll stop posting in the serious discussion forum if you like.
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IT DOESN'T SAY SOME. IT GROUPS ALL OF THEM TOGETHER. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO.

If I told you apples are delicious, I don't mean all apples, there are a few rotten ones in every bunch. Clear?
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There, now perhaps you saw what I posted like three times tongue.gif
I have a very short memory. Sorry.

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Besides which, pyscho, you're flaming more and more as this topic progresses.
And you called your moderator an asshole. Which makes me cry. And when I cry, I push the shiny warn button.

Mod or not I treat people based on how they act in response to me. It's kind of funny that some people say I'm sucking up to mods while others say I should be nicer. I guess I'm all things to all people.

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I move that we lock this topic, unless someone has a valid point they'd still like to discuss?

Why not just close all topics that have been dead for a week yet people still bring them up?

If anyone here thinks I'm being an asshole by posting what I consider to be well thought out arguments PM about it and I'll stop.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-03-28 at 19:00:50
morally straight guys like to play around with lesbians but the lesbians reject there offer. why wouldnt it do the same thing if a girl asked a gay guy to do thump thump.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-03-28 at 19:46:49
Yeah, this thread hasn't really gone anywhere. Btw, pimpin is trying to make some kind of joke by posting that irrelevant crap, but it's not funny, not suitable for this forum, and is just adding a few bytes to the page size. Chill, I apologize for clumping all teenagers into one group, pimpin, you're full of misconceptions and ideals of a perfect heterosexual relationship and those bad, non-loving gays who split up all the time and are just in it for the sex. I'll stop calling him a teenager and start calling him immature, kay?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-03-28 at 20:13:12
Okay, skipping past every post I'm posting my thoughts, pure and simple. Christians have no right whatsoever to oppress anyone in the name of their faith. With that said, I wonder why this topic exists. In fact, no one has that right to oppress. I'm not even going to post my opinion, unless you considered that an opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-03-28 at 20:17:41
Well said, Felagund. Well said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-03-28 at 21:00:12
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No. I can see you're going to get on my nerves during your stay.

He got on everyone's nerves during his last stay, he just came back now that everyone forgot.
Addition: Looks like he just *reminded* everyone.
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In the Bible it says those with souls may enter heaven or hell. SOULS. Animals, however, do NOT have souls.

Hypocrite, because we are animals.
Btw, No you are not confused and I will not explain more.


If god really was real then we would all burn in hell because wether you are straight or not, homosexuality happens wether you decide on it or not. There is also a thing called "Point of view", if it doesn't seem like homosexuality to one person, then it is not homosexuality to him, meaning he can't go to hell because he is not homosexual. God cannot have point of view being the omnipotent being he/she/it is.


We all have to calm down, I admit that everyone gets a bit steamy after an argument gets to a certain point but why close the topic? It is just getting interesting.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-30 at 03:38:38
Now tell me who the HECK told you we were animals? I believe there was a certain word for describing us....oh yeah, MANKIND!!!!!!! Hmm, maybe I should break the word up to make it clearer. Man...well that doesn't mean animal. Kind....means we are man. Say it with me now....Man..Kind. Not animalkind or animal or whatever the crap you are making up. (I have ranted hehehe).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Axellraff on 2005-03-30 at 03:47:11
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Now tell me who the HECK told you we were animals? I believe there was a certain word for describing us....oh yeah, MANKIND!!!!!!! Hmm, maybe I should break the word up to make it clearer. Man...well that doesn't mean animal. Kind....means we are man. Say it with me now....Man..Kind. Not animalkind or animal or whatever the crap you are making up. (I have ranted hehehe).
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I dont know too what you have to tell before, but me I am enough believing and the Bible says that the man should not sleep with another man as if it will sleep with a woman!
Then what to say moreover! wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-30 at 05:43:55
I can't tell what the hell you are saying... huh.gif And where in that post did I talk about women...???
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Axellraff on 2005-03-30 at 08:02:23
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I can't tell what the hell you are saying... huh.gif And where in that post did I talk about women...???
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-03-30 at 13:56:03
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Now tell me who the HECK told you we were animals? I believe there was a certain word for describing us....oh yeah, MANKIND!!!!!!!

No! We ARE animals! In your post, you stated about splitting up the word "mankind", and by how you interpreted it you somehow came to the conclusion that we are not animals.

Let's use your own logic. Fishdom.
Fish- Well, that doesn't mean animal.
Dom- Thats a term to enhance the first part of a word.
Therefore, fishes are not animals!

"But, wait!" you say, "Fishes are animals!". Where do you get these assumptions from??? You use the assumption "x are animals" for fishes and every other creature you 'consider' to be an animal, but not on humans!
In fact, we are in Kingdom Animalia, Class Mammalia, Genus Homo, and Species sapien. From what I am interpreting, the reason you cannot believe that we are animals is because we are so "split apart" from them. We have more in common with animals than differences. If you are looking on the internet to see the common traits, look under class mammalia.

Also, with you and me being a Christian, you should know FULL WELL that God created everything from dust (which he created). The main difference is that God made us in his image and brought us into existence in a unique way. But, you do see now that we are animals, right indecisiveman?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-30 at 17:17:27
No no no Kirby you see you are wrong. I gave you the two scriptures which proves my point. Maybe I will share with everyone else. The reason we are not animals is because God named us mankind. The problem with YOUR argument is that God isn't naming "Fishdom", we are. If God were to say the fishes shall be known as "Fishdom" I would agree they were NOT animals, but He didn't. And God didn't name animals, Adam did. Ok I will quote it form the Bible(so much work but well worth it)

Genesis 2:19-20 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. (irrelevant)-->But for Adam there was not found a helper comparible to him.

Ok so that shows Adam named animals. However, God named us. And if God wanted to class us as animals wouldn't we have popped up from the ground and Adam have named us as he did every other animal? I think so. God wanted us to be different so He named us Mankind. So WE can't make up words and call animals that, only God can.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Axellraff on 2005-03-30 at 17:29:39
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No no no Kirby you see you are wrong. I gave you the two scriptures which proves my point. Maybe I will share with everyone else. The reason we are not animals is because God named us mankind. The problem with YOUR argument is that God isn't naming "Fishdom", we are. If God were to say the fishes shall be known as "Fishdom" I would agree they were NOT animals, but He didn't. And God didn't name animals, Adam did. Ok I will quote it form the Bible(so much work but well worth it)

Genesis 2:19-20 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. (irrelevant)-->But for Adam there was not found a helper comparible to him.

Ok so that shows Adam named animals. However, God named us. And if God wanted to class us as animals wouldn't we have popped up from the ground and Adam have named us as he did every other animal? I think so. God wanted us to be different so He named us Mankind. So WE can't make up words and call animals that, only God can.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-30 at 17:34:00
Unless there is some kind of hidden logic in that(which there probably is but I don't want to read into it), I suggest you stop spamming and say what you have in your head.
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