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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Volcove99 on 2005-08-06 at 03:26:06
Only some of the expos are cramped, and they are made to be that way. Its not my fault I felt like making an island map for once, as there is a definet lacking in them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-06 at 03:49:01
on a side note, nukes can reach every single expo on the map without actually having to go on the expo.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2005-08-06 at 13:01:45
Well, on island maps air control is pretty important. Which is why I spammed turrets to make up for my lack of it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Volcove99 on 2005-08-06 at 16:40:49
Well, if you think about it, besides seige tanks or nukes on nearby islands, the terrans have no way to drop in an island very well. Zerg has guardians, Protoss has corsair w/ disruption web. Terrans? Nothing. I made those smaller adjacent islands to give terrans a bit more of a chance.

Oh yes, vital news about Orange bud. The map is flawed, and all special abilties are disabled under the UMS setting. The map is not suitable for UMS play. If you are to use it, either modify it accordingly or just remove the extra starting locations so players can play it on normal melee settings.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Grouty on 2005-08-06 at 23:20:30
wesmic and cheeze i do believe its a bo3 format you have to play both maps then if there is a tie play gamea gowon

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The maps for the First Round will be:
Underworld and Turnabout
If a tiebreaker is necessary, it will occur on Gamea Gowon, which can be downloaded here.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-06 at 23:36:32
Oh really?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-08-06 at 23:45:32
That's so :censored:ing gay, god damnit, I was never informed; it doesn't say that anywhere in either post in the two threads by moose.


Oh wait, nevermind... we played again the next day and I won the next 1v1 between the two of us, so I guess I still advance. bo3's suck.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Blind on 2005-08-06 at 23:52:52
I think it's good that it's bo3 because we're scheduling our matches on our own time, so it doesn't make the tournament longer (in most cases). We're given a week to play each round, so whether it's bo1 or bo3 wouldn't really make the tournament longer unless someone has to go after the first match. Making it bo3 helps prevent flukes, etc. But I agree with wesmic that it wasn't really clear it was bo3. The person I played against didn't know either until I told him that it had to be bo3 or else there wouldn't be a tie-breaker. (I initially thought it was a bo1 and we were supposed to choose 1 of the 2 maps given for the round to play on.)

Edit:
This is as opposed to standard small tournaments where everyone meets in a channel and plays the whole tournament in one day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-08-07 at 00:01:23
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Aug 6 2005, 10:45 PM)
That's so :censored:ing gay, god damnit, I was never informed; it doesn't say that anywhere in either post in the two threads by moose.
Oh wait, nevermind... we played again the next day and I won the next 1v1 between the two of us, so I guess I still advance. bo3's suck.
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Except we didn't play the right map. smile.gif

LOOKS LIKE I"M BACK IN. w00t.gif

.. After looking at turnabout ..

That is not a melee map. I don't know what it is, but it's not a melee map. The mineral placement sucks. A lot. Seriously.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-07 at 00:03:33
Me too. blushing.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-08-07 at 00:18:48
Wow, it never said anywhere that it was bo3, mabye by tie-breaker he meant if the maps were completely mined out and no units were left, except cannons/sunks that the game would be a stale-mate (or tie), then they would rematch on a more popular map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Blind on 2005-08-07 at 00:22:01
The chances of that happening are low. You can pretty much conclude that it's bo3 because he gave us 2 maps to play on. But yeah, he should've made it clearer, just so things like this don't happen.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 00:23:35
That mineral placement is unreal.

To the map maker: why don't you remake it and resubmit it?

I'm sure the admins wouldn't mind. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-08-07 at 00:25:12
QUOTE(Blind @ Aug 6 2005, 11:22 PM)
The chances of that happening are low. You can pretty much conclude that it's bo3 because he gave us 2 maps to play on. But yeah, he should've made it clearer, just so things like this don't happen.
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I figured we had a choice, in other words, I'm going to be forced to play Cheeze on Turnabout if this is true about this bo3 crap, which was never stated previously, Turnabout is almost unplayable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-08-07 at 00:27:11
Don't worry wesmic, I'm trying to see if moose will let me quit the tourny to make some changes. ohmy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-08-07 at 00:52:18
I made a major error guys. The tournament is supposed to be a best TWO OF THREE MATCHES. Somehow that only made it to one of the posts. Sorry! If you played one game, just play another on the other map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by E)s-Fury on 2005-08-07 at 01:54:25
Hmm... My opponent left on Friday for a 4 day vacation, we played our one match before hand, but this complicates things.. Don't come crying to me when I hold up the tourney.. closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-07 at 02:45:06
I think you'll have to extend the deadline by 2 days or so then. >.>
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-07 at 02:49:05
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Aug 6 2005, 10:27 PM)
Don't worry wesmic, I'm trying to see if moose will let me quit the tourny to make some changes.  ohmy.gif
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or you could just throw up a white flag, it will be much easier for him
Report, edit, etc...Posted by iamandragon on 2005-08-07 at 03:34:15
QUOTE(Volcove99 @ Aug 6 2005, 03:40 PM)
Well, if you think about it, besides seige tanks or nukes on nearby islands, the terrans have no way to drop in an island very well. Zerg has guardians, Protoss has corsair w/ disruption web. Terrans? Nothing. I made those smaller adjacent islands to give terrans a bit more of a chance.

Oh yes, vital news about Orange bud. The map is flawed, and all special abilties are disabled under the UMS setting. The map is not suitable for UMS play. If you are to use it, either modify it accordingly or just remove the extra starting locations so players can play it on normal melee settings.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but terran is the race that got the most victories among the pro gamer tours on island maps. I remember there's a terran who sucks on all match ups but his winning percentage on Island Maps like Gorky Park is 100%.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by uberfoop on 2005-08-07 at 13:16:48
QUOTE(iamandragon @ Aug 7 2005, 01:34 AM)
Sorry to disappoint you, but terran is the race that got the most victories among the pro gamer tours on island maps. I remember there's a terran who sucks on all match ups but his winning percentage on Island Maps like Gorky Park is 100%.
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terran is way overpowered on island maps against zerg lol. they can just turtle up and mass science vessels and valkyries and no zerg unit can get by. this is why i hate island maps-they make zerg hopelessly inneffective against terran.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-08-07 at 13:21:53
2-3 minutes: Spawning Pool + Extractor
4 minutes: Lair
5-6 minutes: Spire
8 minutes: 3-4 Mutalisks flying around harassing the poor Terran like heck.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Blind on 2005-08-07 at 15:56:26
You're never going to harass any decent terran with 3-4 mutalisks. Your best bet is to get scourges to contain and expand. Devourers are your best bet late game.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by exo6yte on 2005-08-07 at 17:29:07
Holy god, we have to play on turnabout? I hope I lose so we can play on Gaema Gowon.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Volcove99 on 2005-08-07 at 17:37:40
Does anyone not notice the problem with Orange Bud?! sad.gif
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