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As I said before, too far up the techtree. Using queens is not too bad in normal melee, but anything more than two is too much, and rather wasteful since you have to get a queen nest anyways. Broodlings were really made cheaper in the recent patches(100/100 minerals/gas) to research. And to get ITs, you have to infest anyway. By that point you will either have destroyed it yourself, or your enemy has done it for you.

... I agree with that. The person who gave the kid the gun should go to jail, AND the person who also used the gun should too. When did I ever say the person who doesn't use a hack shouldn't get punished either? Hell, Blizzard already punishes them, but they should also go after the CREATORS, the main CAUSE of the problem.

Think of it like drugs and drug dealers. You have the users as the bottom of the chain, and higher up you have the dealers. You mostly want to go after the dealers because they are the ones selling the drugs.

I find it funny and pathetic that you are trying to justify hacking.



Stop playing TheoryCraft

Yes, that's what I am saying. No other choice. I don't have an example of people using ITs on a main basis, unless it is the campaign, and you have nothing better to use.

Deep Six is a viable strategy against protoss. But you guys really need to stop argueing over this.

Me.



The drug users will only turn to more drug dealers. There will always be an available drug dealer, private or public.

What is this TheoryCraft you speak of? I've only heard of it in WarCraft III.

By the way, how did we go from the patch 1.13c to how infested terrans are pwnage in melee or other maps?

Not alot of people micro well. Sometimes one can lose control of an IT that auto-acquires. You could kill many units in a flash, in theory, but how often will an enemy group twelve ultralisks together, without backup or a second plan? As for Fastest, I don't play it alot. And I find that people who play Fastest are more likely to survive than LT players on Fastest. Getting to the point, no you don't need, but Fastest is not pure massing of one unit. If you did that, other people would just make an anti-unit and you would get screwed anyway. And who is going to build a CC just for you, unless you already had the minerals to spare in the first place (again, high techtree-reqs). And most people who don't use ITs are usually using something else, which they ahve already established a firm foundation in. And please don't tell me what to do when I know what I am doing. As for professionals, your definition of them is flawed. Just because someone is professional does not mean they are good. It means they get paid for it. After all, in literature, Sherlock Holmes is considered the best detective, but he is an amateur. An amateur is by definition, someone who DOES NOT GET PAID for their work. Don't get caught up in the confusion of the sports world. People in Pro sports get paid because they are the only ones worth the time and effort getting paid.

Furthermore, if you are going queens in a ZvT you aren't going to waste your time trying to infest a command center and get infested terrans. That's not the main point of going Queens.



I'm sure all the noobies who use the hacks are capable of creating their own. Ya, that's why they use other people's hacks.

Less chefes to cook for less people. There wil always be one. You can't keep an eye on everyone all the time. It can't be done, it's human nature: survival. And as for the shift, we were discussing how ITs were disabled, and I started some s***, saying somehting about ITs aren't usable in mainstream.

Okay, so are you done thinking that infested terrans aren't "usable in mainstream" when they don't really suck that badly if used properly?

Btw, when I said "professional" I mean someone who was very far above the average player in doing something. Ex: "Professional" bounder - maybe gets over 5x as much as the average newb in Chinese Bound 2.
Just because you learned the proper term of professional doesn't mean that you don't know what I'm talking about.

Basically infested terrans can be useful IF you get them, but in most of the games you play you won't be like "My main strategy is to win with infested terrans." Most of the time it's to embarass the other guy. If you are playing a serious game I think your mind would be on microing something else if you aren't clearly winning.

Which relates to the fact that if you can get infested terrans you could have won some other way.



They don't "suck" at all as units. It's just you don't really even NEED them.

The simple fact that I had to tell you what "professional" actually meant means I would have to know the context of which you using it. Using it wrong can mean something entirely different, purposeful, or not. I never said they were completely uselss did I? Did I just not say they were godly in campaign three and four in expansion Zerg? They are useful, but who will go through the effort of getting them? And as for "above the others"? Just use the phrase "alot better than other people". You are not insulting anyone except yourself.

It's also hard to pull off if it's a good game where you aren't winning.



Once again, nice SPAM. Stop yelling.

This contributes to the argument, or attempts to stop me in what way? You're not doing anything constructive. I was going to go to sleep, but now, I think I'll go ahead an continue to argue my point until you have nightmares of me. Sweet dreams.

Nuff Said

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I never said when a Zerg player plays as zerg, his main intention is to get infested terrans asap. I'm saying that infested terrans are definitely worth the effort, however, it is optional. Which relates to your fact that you're correct, you don't really need them. Just like someone doesn't really need zerglings, or someone doesn't really need queens or defilers to win. Maybe you'll use devourers once in awhile, but probably more often than you'll use mutalisks (as just mutalisks and not to morph into another unit).

Btw, could we get back on da subject of the 1.13c patch? After all, that's what the name of the topic states; "Patch 1.13c."

Thanks, but I could have scrolled down just to read that, couldn't I? Although it is a wonder that this topic is pulling so much steam.

Well not really, I guess it depends on when ur reading it huh?

What are we going to argue about then? This argument is now offically over. IT disabling was after a part of 1.13c, so this discussion section IS viable. If we don't wanna argue anymore, Yoshi or Moose could just lock the topic.

Maybe you need to pay a solid visit to www.UrbanDictionary.com and ease your AP English IV college level mind (or whatever you wanna call it).

Indeed.

Hackers are the biggest problem in online computer games. But Blizzard should wait for each patch they make. Observe whats not suppose to happen. They should also use a personal map hack. To see if they hack.


This is ing bull . I mean it. Hackers are messing up sc.

Let's not lock the topic.

You and devilesk just need to cooldown on the random debating.

Please, just talk about 1.13c, what you think, what you predict, ETC.

Okay then, I guess we're settled. To sum it all up for people who ignored the first few pages of this topic:

Didn't the last news post get locked because people were argueing and spamming it up?

This is getting out of hand...

No, I'm just a sophmore. What I know I learned from neccessity. Comparing Donovan McNabb to Michael Vick requires this information and vocabulary knowledge. You simply have to know what professional means.

Off Topic:
McNabb is the pwnage, btw. Hands down. No QB ever won a Suber Bowl by ruinning all over the place. He makes his Wideouts do all the running, and he throws like the wind. Vick needs to improve his arm.