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Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Lead_Factor on 2005-12-28 at 16:58:49
in some states you are prossecuted...in others you are sent to an insane asylum with my cousin
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-28 at 17:22:46
QUOTE(Infested-Jerk @ Dec 28 2005, 02:29 PM)
Because everyone (should) know that drugs are dangerous stupid things to smoke, inhale, choke on, eat, snuff, ect.
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So that gives you the right to judge me, and tell me i'm going to hell because I made a bad choice?

Is that not against God's commandments?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-12-28 at 18:00:08
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A group of people does not represent the whole.
The taliban does not imply that all Afghanistan people are evil.
The Nazi does not mean that Germans are evil.


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If we're an image of god, then why aren't we all powerful deieties that can stop time, kill at will, ect.

All that means is that we can decide things for ourselves and have the power to love and forgive.

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If god is benevolent, and omnipotent, why does evil exist?

God didn't create evil. Humans did. He gave us free will, so he created a CHANCE for evil to exist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-12-28 at 18:12:30
QUOTE(Neiji @ Dec 28 2005, 06:00 PM)
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All that means is that we can decide things for ourselves and have the power to love and forgive.
God didn't create evil. Humans did. He gave us free will, so he created a CHANCE for evil to exist.
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Here is where the religious side has a major hole. It's rather quite obvious. Your God, has no motive what so ever. What does he gain by doing all these things? Giving us free will and all that good stuff? Nothing.

And more importantly, you don't need God to have free will. If there isn't a God, there still will be free will.

God didn't GIVE us free will. He let us KEEP it. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to take it away in the first place. Only way he'll be able to take it all away, is if he knows everything that will happen in the future. He would have to know that my grand son will die at the age of 20 in the year 2050, and would go to hell for enternal suffering just for being an atheist. It's not that we will be judged, it's that we've ALREADY been judged. How can you condemn a person before they're even born? What kind of monster would do such a thing? Hopefully not God.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-28 at 18:56:40
QUOTE(Neiji @ Dec 28 2005, 04:00 PM)
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All that means is that we can decide things for ourselves and have the power to love and forgive.
God didn't create evil. Humans did. He gave us free will, so he created a CHANCE for evil to exist.
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Hmm... HYPOCRITE! I just found a contradiction within' your little head:

"God didn't create evil. Humans did"

Oh! But did not Lucifer create evil, by standing up against god?

You're losing Neiji. Just face it
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-12-28 at 19:00:04
No lucifer didn't. Humans made the choice of going against God. Lucifer just helped them. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it.

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What does he gain by doing all these things?

Love?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-12-28 at 19:06:00
Lucifer stood against god. That's why he was cast to hell and deemed "Evil"

Don't you even know your own damn teachings?

An ex-atheist is pointing things out to you man. That's pathetic
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2005-12-29 at 16:34:57
But really.. who really here is a true atheist? who would really post on this thread who is an atheist?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-12-29 at 16:38:08
A lot of people...
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