I think the main reason heros are cheap is of arbs. The whole game is harrass, when your weak recall. If you don't have recall, heros usefulness drastically drop. Look at seige of gondor(except for fellowship and elves), people rarely use heros to harrass and run. Sadly this lasts for the entire game, taking out the mass army aspect of the game. Now if you make the heros weaker but still enough to do a significant amount of damage to things, then adding them into your army can benefit you.
Exactly, it's really the arbs that mess things up. Without them you can't just use a few heros to kill defenses anymore. You actually have to attack.
Actually it does say he kills over 40 trolls and i think the number is 70
Well then, they must have been very ill trolls...Still Heroes have always been tough, but thats different from strong!
I think a limit to your ability to Recall would be more interesting, like they are stuck to each of your main bases, and you can use them in Mana 50 costs, and only recall to your main base, and if thats lost, the Arbiter goes!
Actually, you were thinking of LotR there Coko. I'm talking of the Silmarillion. Hurin actually did kill 70 trolls. And they were kick-ass, with harsher weapons than third-age era peoples. So Coko, as I am God, can you people let up?
once again, why does ur map keep crashigne verytime i try to play it
A likely reason for the constant crashes is that it gets corrupted while being downloaded, or on the FTP. Place it on the Download section of the site and create a link for people to download it, and tell them it is beta-only!
(Gives me a thought for mentioning to Yoshi about having such a Download section, if he doesn't already have it, i rarely visit it!)
I don't think so, I played his map at map night and it still crashed.
Alright, the version I sent out was corrupted. *Sorry everyone!* But I fixed this problem, and the limited Beta tests went swell without a hitch. It has nothing to do with the map, just the file.
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I was trying to give constructive critisisim, but felagund can't seem to understand....
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Criticizm, suggestions whatever... They are merely comments. They can be REJECTED as well being accepted. If the map doesn't go the way YOU want it, too bad, it is his map. If you offer advice, he can take it or throw it away. Just because he doesn't use it doesn't mean the map will go horribly wrong. Just look at its strengths.
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Hurin killed 70 trolls once.
The only damned reason he was able to kill that many, because they weren't trying to even hurt him, but subdue him and take him to Morgoth. And thats pretty damn hard, even if said trolls tried that on like a 3rd Age hero
Too late, I'm on the war path now!
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The only damned reason he was able to kill that many, because they weren't trying to even hurt him, but subdue him and take him to Morgoth. And thats pretty damn hard, even if said trolls tried that on like a 3rd Age hero
I half understand this, but i wanna mentioned First Age heroes were much more powerful than the people of the Third Age, and I mean cmon the whole Fellowship was needed to kill one troll at the Chamber of Mazarbul(?) (Balin's Tomb).
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Too late, I'm on the war path now!
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Sorry for that spam..ahem anyways...

Hurin, i know he killed a lot of Orc-Troll Guards, not really that hard, they were foolish and weak creatures till Sauron did his work on them during the early 3rd Age!
no coko... they werent all that stupid they did morgoths bidding the same as saurons
Correction, Sauron caused changes to them, so that they became better thinkers/fighters in the later ages, it is written in Unfinished Tales, or so i believe.
So Coko, even though trolls were stupid back then, are you agreeing with me now that Hurin killed 70 trolls?
Yea thats true, the best trolls if I remember correctly were Saurons Olog-Hai
Getting a bit off topic now though....
I still can't find a place to download the map *looks again, is probably just blind*
Actually, the downloads database completely blows now, and it will until Yoshi smooths it out. I can't find any of my recent uploaded files. You're not blind, it's the website! I kind of miss the old site... I don't see what's so great about this one!
I like the new site, its better on the eyes, and the Zerg Pets looks good *didn't have a chance to test yet*
Well, hopefully you'll get a site to upload the map to, cause I really wanna try it out
Could be a while... Starcraft just doesn't do it for me anymore... I guess since summer is over, so is my career with Starcraft. *Sniff* It just happens to you, and then you don't know where to turn. I want StarCraft 2!!!!!!!!!
Blizzard should be VERY careful with the making of SC2, we can't have a second WC3....
Are you gonna finish both maps then stop, or gonna work on something else after?
*goes back to work on his new RPG idea*
I would find some way to continue working on Starcraft, SC-2 seems a long way off, if ever and i doubt if it ever comes out it will be in any way similar to the current one. The world has moved so much in these years since SC release, that things are too different! Anyhow Starcraft is PERFECT!
felagund... same thing happened to me... i started high school, and all of a sudden i can't stay away from music and girls... it used to be starcraft and girls

Hey, this is my topic so I'm choosing to be off-topic. Sue me! I'm deep in love and have a hard time doing jack... not that I mind that
*Yoshi da Sniper sighs. What a great life!