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I'm glad I'm rich enuf not to live in area where recruits think idiots that can be tricked live...

Of course, you're too modest to brag about it or anything.

Guys, people died in Iraq for no reason. He killed them. I know that John Kerry wouldn't send anybody to die without a good fricking reason.

Even if I were old enough to vote, I wouldn't'
Damn, clicked the wrong one...
Hand spasm made me hit Kerri instead of null... 0_o

i'd vote kerry

This is the Serious discussion forum. Please tell why, not just you voted for kerry. We can tell that from lookaing at the poll.

I'll be the man and say I am going to vote for Bush

The day that the world trade centers were attacked, everyone had a gut feeling "I can't wait to find out who did this so we can kick their ass." - dont deny it.

President Bush, never did anything wrong it's what happened, he had no say in matter. I mean comon, he actually helped the economy, but no one talks about that these days. Remember when he was first elected, all those tax breaks?

Blaming him for the economy and other such things is like blaming your dad for the house being destroyed after getting hit by a tornado.

The majority of the media (tv, newspaper) is democrat, and everything is slanted that way. The only thing republicans in majority are famous radio programs (rush limbaugh)

Anyways, having said all that. Some people will only vote for Kerry to get Bush out of office, What the hell?

It doesn't bother you that Kerry orchestrated his whole life to become president. The whole war hero thing, all of it was fake. He won't even release the reasons he got all his medals, what is he trying to hide? Shouldn't you be prideful of things you have done in the past that express heroism? Maybe this is telling you he's afraid to tell you something.

This world is a wicked place, don't you wonder how many people are actually paid to say stuff? I mean, if Kerry can lie through his teeth all during the campaign, who's going to stop him from paying off war veterans to help him lie?

Again...

I'll be the man and say I am going to vote for Bush

GO BUSH! YEAJH !!!

Go bush, go... i woulda vote for bush if i lived in usa

I would say I'm for Bush, but I don't argee with everything he stands for. I am strongly Pro-War which he is, and I am for Abortion and Gay marriage, which he isn't.

He would have never gone to war if didn't have good reason to believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, he didn't just jump into a war for no reason. The intelligence he recieved from the CIA/FBI on the weapons may have been wrong, but in the end the war was not completely worthless. As I said in a previous post on the war being justified, we needed to take Saddam out, and we had to take him out by force. The ways we were trying to take him out were not working, such as the food tariffs, which were only punishing his people, not harming his power directly.

And for the people that say we shouldn't be involved in the whole world's problems. Well, we can't just turn our back on the world when bad things are happening. Thats like seeing someone getting beat up on the street and just sit there, not doing anything.

As for the soliders dying. When you join the military, you basically sign your life over, you sign up knowing there is a certain risk of dying. And there has been no draft, so all of them were volunteers, they knew they were risking their life.

As for the economy, I think @:@ put it very well:



So yes, I am for Bush, but I don't argee with everything he says. Too bad I am still to young to vote.

Don't get me started on abortion.

Yes and Bush never seriously attack the people that attack us. Osama is loose and there never were more than 20,000 troops in Afghanistan.

I want a president (even if I'm Canadian) that doesn't send us into a war with no evidence. Its as though he's bored or something... No offense to all the Bush fans... We are ruled by a and a Bush literally!

ADDITION: I meant Americans are ruled by VP and President Bush *cough cough*

Mind you that your :censored:ING CANADIAN and have no say in the matter. The only thing you hear is what the media feeds you.

On 9/11 America demanded revenge on someone, and it was given.

No, it wasn't. Osama is still at large. So why take out our anger on Saddam? Riddle me that.

Besides the fact that he killed millions of his own people...and he wouldn't let inspectors into his country. We didn't let our anger out on him, he was just another bad guy that needed to be taken out.

Of course, these days... there is no Good Vs. Evil, its ...



"Do-what-you-can-to-get-the-highest-ratings"

vs

"They-can-do-whatever-they-want-as-long-as-I-dont-get-invovled"

I'm Canadian - however, I'd vote for Bush. Yes he did send troops to Iraq, but what would any of us have done? What do you do, when there's a terrorist capital who is threatening that they have nuclear weapons? Pretend they're bluffing and then eventually get blown to smithereens? No, you go in, and show them who's boss.

IMO, Canada should have backed the US a lot better than a measley, what was it? $600, 000. Pathetic.

watch um... i dont know how to spell it, that 9/11 movie by mr moore. the more you watch tit the more ir makes sense. also what the hell do you mean saddams a bad guy? the republicans wwere the idiots who gave him his missiles and crap and he was TRYING to research nuclear weapons. he never did. oh and notice bush said osama was his prime target and now he isnt anymore? he got saddam to make people forget about it.





i dont know about the rest of you but heated arguments are fun

Do you know how many people are in this world today? I'll just throw out a number... 6 billion mabybe a little more, I dont know. Do you know how hard it would be to find 1 guy.. thats 1 out of 6,000,000,000 people. Do you know how long a mile is? Put it this way..

It took me 2 1/2 half days to drive from Michigan to Washington state. and that is close to a 2400 mile trip. You have to understand the magnitude of finding one person that could be anywhere on the earth. (including the caves) lol

So, if they haven't found him yet, what news is there to report? And on top of that, THE MEDIA IS WHAT ANNOUNCES STUFF, NOT PRESIDENT BUSH, SO IF YOU HAVE HEARD NOTHING. BLAME YOUR MEDIA. THX

You act like President Bush gave up on Osama, You never know there could be secret operations going on every night.

By that logic I could also say that you don't know that John Kerry faked his war record. Nobody knows anything, all we have are reports from two biased media camps. One that reports actions (the "liberal" media), and the other that reports intentions (FOX, etc.). I prefer facts, that's all. If the liberal media tells me how many soldiers died, that's fine with me. If the conservative media fluffs it up with claims that despite losses we are winning the war, that's not fine. We aren't winning, we're at a loss for what to do to deal with the insurgency. Or is the insurgency just a fictitious concept created by Bush-haters or something? You tell me. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore. All that I know is that people died, and Bush willingly sent them to their deaths. We were not in any danger of being attacked by Saddam, and yet we attacked him anyway. Not good enough.

Oh, and do you support attacking every dictator on Earth? Because they all repress and murder their people. Stop using the argument that we were helping the Iraqis out, because it's not valid. We don't give a crap about them or we'd do what they want and leave. We obviously don't give a crap about any of the other repressed people in the world. What makes Iraqis so special?

On a side note, remember that none of this is personal. Let's keep this civil. I'm just trying to add to the discussion. I don't necessarily believe all of this stuff. But it's more fun if I say it .

I think Kerry is gonna win. I dont know.. I dont know politics.

I saw this quote:


and all I can say is wtf..that makes no sense. first, bush MADE the economy go down by spending all that money on crap that were lies. 100% lies. he used the 9/11 incident to make americans sad and allow the usa to go to war with his terrible arguements just because they have oil. he took 200million dollars (I think it's 200million) from the No Child Left Behind Act (<--- Made by him) and spent on war. even though he "wants" kids to be smart and wants everyone to be "ABOVE AVERAGE" EVERY YEAR which is IMPOSSIBLE because he's a stupid retard.

..going back to the quote, house being destroyed by a tornado is 100% random and if happened, you have insurance (you can think of it as "going back in time" or "saving in video games") but in real life, after you spend money, where are you going to get it back? thats right! you can't! getting a job is earning money, you're not getting anything back. bush MADE it happen, I don't see that is 100% random, but instead as 100% stupid and those people in the government system sucks at math.

in short, that quote sucks, think about everything before you say. thank you and good day.


EDIT: This Arguement probably sounds unproffesional and stuff but thats probably because I haven't taken debate in high school But it should still summarize the points that I'm trying to show.

turn the j to a k go kerry *eats popcorn*

(Dammit I wrote something out and hit the back button now I gotta write it out again)


Cheeze, Everything was fine in America before the terrorists terrorized and destroyed the WTC. THAT WAS RANDOM? YEAH!? The soldiers that died sacrificed their lives for our country (for you), you should be proud of that. Instead, you are justifying the enemy, and sacrificing the soldiers sacrifice, making it useless...

Same thing happened with the Vietnam War.

Nozomo, don't you even pretend that you care about soldiers lives when you have no moral based value of human lives. (Abortion)

Again...

Bush -> Good vs Evil

_______________________________

Kerry ->

"Do-what-you-can-to-get-the-highest-ratings"

vs

"They-can-do-whatever-they-want-as-long-as-I-dont-get-invovled"

BTW: I got the TIME magazine last night and the poll stats have changed dramatically, according to that poll, the race isn't even close anymore.
"If your were to vote today, who would you vote for?"

Bush - 52%
Kerry - 41%

yes that is 100% random. another is you cannot prove who actually did it. also, I don't think the soldiers are fighting for me. They are doing what they are told. And I'm completely against it, why would I "support" them? They're not being sacrficed for nothing. Bush is getting plenty of money each time someone dies because he can use it as "Fund Raiser" for the war. I hated the Vietnam War. Usa lost nothing compared to them (which INCLUDES civilians) and yet you are sad for yourself. We both are human, so we should we only feel sad that is only in our country? As a side note, I am chinese, but that doesn't mean my opinions are worthless. If you are american, then your mind is probably too closed and can only see this from one side.

Goes to school be back later

OK, I want the news report/facts that where you got the information that President Bush gets money for every soldier that dies.

You either misread it or you were misunderstood. There is no way he would still be president if that was the case.

I have seen all the sides CheeZe, Kerry will be ALOT worse president than Bush, he can't even make up his mind. He just lies.. bottom line. straight up ..lie.

Everyone knows that mostly all politician bend the truth...but Kerry.. he just lies.


___Speculation___
I'm willing to bet that he is just a puppet for someone else.

Kerry.

Bush is a disgrace to not only Texas, but the whole USA.

He starts costly wars against people who don't need to be fought against. He supports his war and his positions with lies. He shouldn't be president in the first place (He lost the election in Florida. That election was rigged). He does not tackle any environmental issues at all. He glorifies things that shouldn't be glorified.

But when you break it all down, I don't support bush because he is a liar. A president should not lie. period.



People always point out Kerry supporting the war and then not supporting it. Well, a lot of people supported the war that bush made it out to be - a war where we were taking away weapons of mass destruction from evil terrorists. That war was a lie, and Kerry doesn't support that lie. Lot's of people changed their view on the war after they saw what Bush really intended to do.



Please don't vote for 3rd party. I prefer 3rd party views too, but I don't want that to be the cause of Bush's reelection... again.



Care to explain why?



Hey, not all people from Texas are idiots .



I partially agree with this, except I think 'idiot' is a bit too strong of a word to describe Kerry. I don't like Kerry too much, but he is better than Bush.



Clinton could not have been more interested in foreign affairs... He just solved foreign problems in peaceful ways, unlike Bush.

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My conclusion to this post is:

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