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protoss has the greatest advantage on island maps, ask any gosu. between reavers and corsairs plus the best capital ship in the game protoss>all

How are terrans supposed to get enough gas to get Valks AND Vessels?

Wow, if you send only 3-4 in, you are sure to get raped. You have to wait until you get an amount that can do some damage.

P>T>Z on islands. On semi islands, it's P=T>Z.

I know 3-4 mutalisks is not enough. I thought the build + harass was implied. :/


Anyway, I might have messed up the timing ... or something. But I still don't think Terran owns Zerg in air, at least not at that speed.

well looks like i move on by default, my opponent's withdrawing.

sooooooo.... what maps are going to be played on for the second round?

I hope they are one of the better ones

I resent that! Underworld isn't that bad!!

Since people have not responded to this, I must get their attention:

ORANGE BUD HAS ALL ABILITIES DISABLED FOR UMS PLAY! IT MUST BE MODIFIED!!

It got my attention long time ago (when you made your first post about it) but since i'm not playing in this tournament, i figured it isn't my business.

Well, I played on the map for fun, and the guy I was 1v1ing was like: "OMG I CAN'T SEIGE TANKS!!" so that might pose a problem for everyone else.

have you seen the middle base on underworld or is this a troll post?

why is cheeze the mod of the "melee" forums?








You can't harass with 4 mutas. They won't do any damage.

i just beat swift 3-0(we played gowon for fun)

LOL wow i didn't even notice that.

So that explains why Cheeze is suddenly starting to participate in the melee forums.

Oh oh~! While you're at it, CheeZe, could you resort the melee maps?

~Ogogo CheeZe/XBakaPeterX/Blind finals!

no love for grouty?

Because I am sexy. There is no other reason.


Attacking 2 times takes less than 2 seconds. This deals a total of 72 damage. Enough to kill a peon; assuming they don't have static defense nor things such as mass marines or hydralisks (and who keeps massive amounts near their peons??), killing 3 or even more peons before backup can arrive should be easy. Of course, then, there's the splash damage which could actually kill one additional peon.

All this time, of course, you would be getting more mutalisks so by the time you get back and finished retreating, you should have 8 or more, which would easily be able to damage buildings.


Wanted to before, but I went on vacation. Weee.


?? What maps.


I feel like giving wesmic the win. The map I have to play on isn't even a melee map.

Oh it's ez, siege map control with valks then expand to mass vessels...
but I won't

btw I can't find cool_breeze lately to do our second match...

Okay, I'm giving the list of players a long-needed update.

Also, I'm uploading an updated map pack with an update Orange Bud. Thanks, Volcove, for noticing the bugs. If you notice any other problems with the maps, let me know.

CheeZe has already been elimated/thrown the white flag, it's just that Moose has forgotten to put me as a winner in the main post.

I think you accidentally posted a madness map that is called turnabout instead of a melee one. You should probably update that.

How the hell did Turnabout get into the map rotation, please tell.

I don't know. Moose is evil!! Play underworld

People need to finish playing their first round games, it's been a lot longer than a week, or has moose not updated the rest of it yet?

Moose said he wanted this tournament to be unique and entertaining, rather than serious competitive play. So he also chose some strange maps (like turnabout) and would like to see how people play on those maps.

I mean the maps in the melee section. Besides, a map can't be considered pro unless it's used in an official tourney, like Ever Starleauge or something. Maybe change pro section to "Superior" or something.

Unless you don't have that kind of power. =/



~Ogogo BakaPeter/Blind finals, then~.!