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Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-02-08 at 10:56:23
QUOTE(Syphon @ Jan 27 2006, 08:45 PM)
Sex before marriage is natural, marriage isn't.
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This sentence was simple, short and it does the job..

i agree..

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QUOTE(Red2Blue @ Feb 5 2006, 04:17 AM)
Not really, thats a misconception.
If you make the act of putting it on the equipment a sexual experience, there would be no flaw to it.
You can make that part fun you know...

You would understand if you are experienced enough.
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i agree with that too..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-02-08 at 13:40:14
I think its fine before getting married, Inless they want to wait that long, I dont see any conflict... (inless its for us guys and we half to wait... tongue.gif)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-02-08 at 16:13:43
QUOTE(Zombie @ Feb 8 2006, 10:40 AM)
I think its fine before getting married, Inless they want to wait that long, I dont see any conflict... (inless its for us guys and we half to wait... tongue.gif)
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I have never seen anyone type unless as "inless" lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-02-08 at 16:19:17
QUOTE(nimadude @ Feb 8 2006, 04:13 PM)
I have never seen anyone type unless as "inless" lol
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roflol!! thats so true.. but u r off-topic..

(me too btw.. unless i add something like this:)

sex isnt only an activity done by a couple (or just fark friends), its there to make babies.. roflol..

people shouldnt have babies with people they dont know for a long time.. (this is my opinion)

but that doesnt mean they shouldnt have sex with em..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-02-08 at 18:29:07
QUOTE(nimadude @ Feb 8 2006, 02:13 PM)
I have never seen anyone type unless as "inless" lol
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English isnt my best subject.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LtDonny on 2006-02-08 at 20:39:42
I am not planning on getting married, so premarital sex I support. Frankly, how is it wrong? It is only natural.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-02-08 at 21:24:23
QUOTE(Zombie @ Feb 8 2006, 03:29 PM)
English isnt my best subject.
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We all make mistakes tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-02-10 at 06:55:09
Is it not right to be "horny"?

Humans have needs you know. It is definitely unhealthy for both males and females to not have sex. Unhealthy for males because they need to make sure it works right? Right? They need to release their stuff to prevent overflow!

Females probably gain the most from sex. What do they gain besides multiple orgasms? Cleanliness. When a male has intercourse with a female he essentially cleans it up and removes built on debris that may be impossible to reach or simply too stuck on to clean off efficiently. Think of the male as a human cleaning tool! If females do not have much intercourse they would have to keep it very clean. By this I mean spotless. Infections could result from a dirty um... thing...

Besides, if you are against sex anyways, you might as well go with the other variants of sex. Oral, um... the rest isn't very good to talk about so im going to have to go with: etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-02-10 at 17:43:33
On the contrary to most of you, I say that sex before marriage is a must!

Think about this statement:
"You just got married and the both of you are going to have sex for the first time in both the relationship and your lifes. None of you know how the experience will be nor know what to do. After you do your thing you say to yourself: "Damn, that wasn't as good as they say". You have sex the next night and it still isn't good. Your spouse doesn't like the sex either."

You are now with a person that you do not like having sex with. Now you either get a divorce or just don't have good sex. This is a real problem.

And yes, this is possible. All bodies are different meaning that they have different variations of getting an orgasm and thus not everyone can please everyone.

The main reasons to have sex before marriage is:

1) Make sure that you like having sex with your couple before
2) You gain valuable experience (The first time is the worst)
3) It's healthy
4) It's fun(In another sense)
5) You feel good about yourself

Now the main resons a group of people don't have sex before marriage are:

1) Virginity equals that that person is honorable
- This realy makes no sense, what you did in bed doesn't make you honorable, keeping your word, honesty and values make you an honorable person

2) The Church prohibits it
- Who said that you have to do everything that the Church says. Christianity specifically states that any person may worship as he or she pleases. Take me as an example, I believe in God in my own way, I highly despise the Church and it's dogmas.

3) You may get her or yourself pregnant
- Just don't blow your load inside her or let him blow it inside you. Condoms are a fine choice

4) The other person may have a disease
- Your fault not making sure that he or she doesn't have any wierd disease
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-02-10 at 20:30:08
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG @ Feb 10 2006, 05:43 PM)
3) It's healthy
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Did you know that the endorhpines (sp?) that a woman releases when she orgasms is a natural pain killer? Saying she has a headache is a bad excuse.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2006-02-11 at 03:30:15
QUOTE(BeeR_KeG @ Feb 11 2006, 11:43 AM)
On the contrary to most of you, I say that sex before marriage is a must!

Think about this statement:
"You just got married and the both of you are going to have sex for the first time in both the relationship and your lifes. None of you know how the experience will be nor know what to do. After you do your thing you say to yourself: "Damn, that wasn't as good as they say". You have sex the next night and it still isn't good. Your spouse doesn't like the sex either."

You are now with a person that you do not like having sex with. Now you either get a divorce or just don't have good sex. This is a real problem.

And yes, this is possible. All bodies are different meaning that they have different variations of getting an orgasm and thus not everyone can please everyone.

The main reasons to have sex before marriage is:

1) Make sure that you like having sex with your couple before
2) You gain valuable experience (The first time is the worst)
3) It's healthy
4) It's fun(In another sense)
5) You feel good about yourself

Now the main resons a group of people don't have sex before marriage are:

1) Virginity equals that that person is honorable
- This realy makes no sense, what you did in bed doesn't make you honorable, keeping your word, honesty and values make you an honorable person

2) The Church prohibits it
- Who said that you have to do everything that the Church says. Christianity specifically states that any person may worship as he or she pleases. Take me as an example, I believe in God in my own way, I highly despise the Church and it's dogmas.

3) You may get her or yourself pregnant
- Just don't blow your load inside her or let him blow it inside you. Condoms are a fine choice

4) The other person may have a disease
- Your fault not making sure that he or she doesn't have any wierd disease
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I pretty much agrees with beer on this one. The reason most people propose to have sex after marriage was to prevent polygamy (From polygamy comes more arguments, such as STDs and Religious issues) and have control on reproduction. However, humans have the need to have sex, even if you tell them they will burn in hell, get jailed, die painfully or screw up their life somehow... they won't stop doing it. So instead of the abstinence talk, let people be healthy, stay healthy and if people know the right thing to do, STDs and pregnancy can easily be controlled.

The church sees virginity and marriage as a sacrament. Having sex before your marriage for them is a sin, and impure. However, in today's society marriage has really in fact lost it's religious meaning. It's more of a commitment thing, showing that you are devoted to that one person. Nonetheless, in the end it still becomes a legal status so the government says you are married, the government says you guys deserve this right or that because you are married- and yes, the government can say whether you are married or not by altering their laws, terms and consititution. No longer is marriage tied to religion, so the sacredness, purity, and everything tied to sex after marriage is losing it's purpose.

As for virginity, I really hate to see people treat their "virginity" as pure or as a 'prize' or 'gift'. Sure you may be inexperienced in the area of sex, but like beer said that would be a problem if you have sex after marriage since you probably won't enjoy it. Also, virginity has already becoming a social construct, the meaning varies greatly and it doesn't really exist in the biological sense. The definition of virginity is so arbitrary that it doesn't really serve a role outside the religious/sinning context. In addition, the fact that everyone are developing their own idea of what exactly constitutes sex, who cares exactly if you still have your virginity - whatever it may be. I don't.

As for the pregnant issues, you're stupid if you don't take protective measures.

About the STDs, that's a problem about sex before marriage (hence polygamy). If you are not 100% sure of the status of your sex partner, then get tested, take protective measures. If you're mindful of the possibilities, and you choose to be cautious, then contracting STDs would almost be a negligibility.

I don't see any reason to not have sex before marriage, delaying the time to have sex with someone is fine since you need to know whether they can stay committed and reduce the chance on catching an STD. However, having your first sexual experience after marriage is just causing danger to that bond, and if you're gona marry... that's enough to know that no argument holds any water against it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-02-11 at 03:54:08
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3) You may get her or yourself pregnant
- Just don't blow your load inside her or let him blow it inside you. Condoms are a fine choice


A fine choice, but not fine enough, condoms alone are NOT the solution for everything.
Condoms are not the complete safe way to do things. It has a 97% effectiveness and a 3% fail rate. It says right on the wrapper. There's a 3% chance that you could get her pregnant! Why is this? It's because ALL condoms have a small microscopic hole at the top. Why? I just don't know. Thus, the supreme safe way would be to use two condoms, hence the term "double bagging," or spermicides. Just a little fyi.

That is all, carry on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-11 at 04:54:28
QUOTE(nimadude @ Feb 8 2006, 02:13 PM)
I have never seen anyone type unless as "inless" lol
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And I have never seen anyone make as many pointless flames as you.


Okey back and on topic.

There is nothing wrong with having sex before marriage, marriage is just paperwork. What matters is that you LOVE the person. Not the paperwork. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-02-11 at 12:59:29
I for sure am not having sex until I have a stable income. If I happen to get her pregnant (as previously stated, I am VERY fertile), I'd want to be able to raise the child. My parents would kill me too... So I vote to wait till I move out and have a steady job.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-02-11 at 21:27:55
So kow, are you saying that if you had a girlfriend and she happened to be "coming on to you" and you are getting all these emotions... you would just back-off? Impossible!

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No not a 3% chance to get her pregnant. There's a 3% chance that the condom will be inefective. So a 3% chance of it being as if you didn't use one. And most people don't have a 100% fertility rate wink.gif


Women around the age of 18~35 have the highest chance of getting pregnant. In essence it is roughtly 2.95% chance of getting pregnant. You do know that having it without a condom is a really bad thing.... >_<
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-11 at 21:29:29
Less then 3% though
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-13 at 00:38:11
QUOTE(Nimadude)
I have never seen anyone type unless as "inless" lol

And Camo, Kellimus, and Euro, tell me, that you tell them, that you don't attack words, but their meanings...

O rly? What did you do right there? Seems to me, you attacked the word and not the meaning. Are you a little liar now?

QUOTE(Azu)
And I have never seen anyone make as many pointless flames as you.


Trying to act intelligent by pointing out someones flaws, is a flame?

Isn't a flame: "Yo, fuq you, you dumb noobie basturd!?

Not: "Oh my. You messed up your spelling and I picked it out. Making me 'smart'."

Anyways

Sex before marriage is totally awesome.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-02-13 at 00:39:50
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Good show.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-13 at 00:40:29
QUOTE(Skcusamin @ Feb 12 2006, 10:38 PM)
Oh my.  You messed up your spelling and I picked it out.  Making me 'smart'.
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That is flaming. Flaming is bad. I report everyone who flames.


QUOTE(Skcusamin @ Feb 12 2006, 10:38 PM)
Sex before  marriage is totally awesome.
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I agree
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-02-13 at 00:53:43
Have any of you actually have had sex yet?

I think you should have sex first before judging wether sex before marriage is ok or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-13 at 00:57:12
Marriage is just a piece of paper it doesn't mean anything.

Love is what matters.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-02-13 at 18:58:20
The legal union of a man and woman (or another man) doesn't mean anything?
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- joint parenting;
- joint adoption;
- joint foster care, custody, and visitation (including non-biological parents);
- status as next-of-kin for hospital visits and medical decisions where one partner is too ill to be competent;
- joint insurance policies for home, auto and health;
- dissolution and divorce protections such as community property and child support;
- immigration and residency for partners from other countries;
- inheritance automatically in the absence of a will;
- joint leases with automatic renewal rights in the event one partner dies or leaves the house or apartment;
- inheritance of jointly-owned real and personal property through the right of survivorship (which avoids the time and expense and taxes in probate);
- benefits such as annuities, pension plans, Social Security, and Medicare;
- spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of one partner who is a co-owner of the home;
- veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and home loans; joint filing of tax returns;
- joint filing of customs claims when traveling;
- wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children;
- bereavement or sick leave to care for a partner or child;
- decision-making power with respect to whether a deceased partner will be cremated or not and where to bury him or her;
- crime victims' recovery benefits;
- loss of consortium tort benefits;
- domestic violence protection orders;
- judicial protections and evidentiary immunity;
- and more....

Source
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Screwed on 2006-02-13 at 23:56:18
That's why I said marriage was tied to laws and legal right, it has lost a lot of its meaning with religion, so religious people with the idea of sex before marriage as a sin really has lost its relevance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-14 at 02:39:23
Marriage = legal bull****

Love = what really matters
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-02-14 at 17:48:35
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So kow, are you saying that if you had a girlfriend and she happened to be "coming on to you" and you are getting all these emotions... you would just back-off? Impossible![right][snapback]425098[/snapback][/right]

I'd do my best. I've done it before too.
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