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I was talking about the first link.

well besides all of your intelectual posts, you have not proven anything. and, when this is posted, youi will state that neather have we. we cant give you more proof that what we already have. you have given no proof at all. all we can say is try it out. thats all. and stop flamming us cus were different

Here are some reasons you're wrong:

1. They get their information from creditable sources and reference to those sources.
2. They are skeptical. Being skeptical doesn't mean someone is trying to prove something wrong (or debunk everything they don't believe as you would put it), it means they doubt the validity of something and usually try to find the truth.
3. They use scientific research to back their information and claims.

So not only are they more of a creditable source than anything I've seen you or anyone else post, but they actually have scientific information backing their claims.

you realy cant bring scince into this topic. this is a topic about ghosts." spirits" if you will. there CANT be scintifical proof, cus spirits defie science.

How so? If it defies science, AND can't be proven, doesn't that make them non-existant?


You've given us proof? Where?

Ya, and if all spiritual things DO exist, they would still follow the rules of science. Math would still exist. 1 + 1 would still = 2.

You can't prove they don't exist though. That is what we are trying to point out.

The Ouija Board is the best proof we can give you.

And then here is my two cents:

Go to a "Haunted House" (an actual one where people report supernatural) and take a cat with you. Then lets see if you will believe....

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If that's the case, god doesn't exist

uhhh. no? whered you get that idea? where dose it say that ghosts follow physiscs or anything like that? why must you be so closed minded?

Does burden of proof ring a bell?

What about shifting it?


Then, you've failed. :/


w00t.


Being skeptic is not close minded, if anything, it's the exact opposite. It means, someone would rather try to find the truth rather than having all of these explanation for things. *cOUgH* aD HoC?! *cough*

.. This place is turning into god thread again...

Go ahead and think, "We are all right, you two are wrong".

I have stated many times to take a Cat into a "Haunted House"
That is MY proof.

Edit: Seems to me you have been listening to DrunkenWrestlings rantings to long....

Kell, it's exactly what I said before:

I can't prove a claim wrong, before that claim is even proven right in the 1st place.



Koosh, can you for 1 second just put your self righteous open mindness aside, and think that maybe YOU are the one being close minded? Cause trust me, I've already taken that into consideration.

But if you want to talk about open mindness, then let's talk about open mindness then. If some one says something that prove almost all your other beliefs wrong, wouldn't at least demand proof from his side? And if it's a really big claim, like what you guys are doing, won't you need to ask for even MORE proof than usual? Cause I'm not gonna be a narrow minded, opened minded, fool and betray all my other beliefs just so I could be open minded and narrow minded enough to allow a new belief into my form of reasoning, before I actually really question it.

again i say....uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh no? how are skeptics open minded? there against something, and thats all they know. all they care about is that its not the way they want it so it must me gone. all that the people that say it's true, all they have been saying is try it. cus with out trying it, you'll never know. and it may not work for you the first time. if it dont, try again.my standing rule it, if you can try it 4 times and it donst happen like someone said it dose, then they are wrong. so try it.

Skeptics are more open minded them someone believing in something where there is little or no proof what so ever. And remember kiddies, the bigger the claim, the more proof it's gonna need.

Believers sometimes just think that they're right withOUT even really debating about it. They just sometimes accept it right away, and think that they are right.

I have friends who have tried a dozen times and nothing really happened, and I also have people who MAKE THE BOARDS OF WHICH YOU SPEAK OF, say that, "it's just all about making a buck."

I have tried to prove it with the only way I know how: Cats.

Cat's are in tune with the "supernatural"

Why does your cat hiss at the air and run away sometimes? Why does it stare blankely at the wall, then shift it's gaze quickly somewhere else and then follow the air around? Why will it hiss at people for no reason? (This reason is cause they can feel the negativity flowing from the person)

Go ahead and say the cat is on something. If you do, it will only show the ignorance.

Why do you think the Egyptians worshipped Cats? Because they understood Cats can sense the "supernatural". And the Egyptians were all about "Mysticism" and everything else that deals with the supernatural.

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Just because it doesn't work for your friends, you're going to debunk the beliefs?

Sounds like ignorance to me.

And yet you still claim that you are right and we are wrong. Where is YOUR proof?

That's not a proof. It doesn't do anything. It shows a phenomenon (assuming you're correct) that cannot be explained yet. I see no reason to connect to spirits.


Actually, it's simple logic fallacies I've been listening to. You should too.


By definition, a skeptic's mind is open.


-Wikipedia


First, can you please post in a way so people can read it?
Second, can you read your own post to make sure it makes sense?
Third, can you please rewrite that in a way so that it does?

I think it says something about skeptics always being narrowminded.. but I'm not sure.

Ya, egyptians are a lot more advanced than us in the ways of reasoning, philosophy, and science. We can not dare compare.

NOW you have to prove that the cat has the ability to sense spirits in the 1st place. Now you got another thing to prove now. That's ANOTHER thread.

yes, but did your "friends" ever play with one after its done?

What else do I have to prove? That cats are in fact, tuned into the "Spirit World"?

You need to explain yourself more.

play with what it after it was done? A "weegee" board? How can you play a "weegee" bored after it was done? Rerphrase the question please.

EDIT - Kell, that is EXACTLY what I'm saying. It's good to know that you understand what I'm saying, now what do you have to say ABOUT what I'm saying?

Read what I said on the end of page 7.
And yes, you need to prove that they are in tune with them, but for your logic to work, you would need to prove the spirits exist first.

That's exactly right.

If you will actually read my post, and actually try experimenting instead of debunking, then maybe you will see how Cat's are connected.

And in case you say that I don't know, just watch a Cats activity. That usualy just stare at shit for no reason like I have stated in previous posts.

Edit: And if you would actually get your head out of your *ss and think that maybe it is a possibility that we are right (Hence, getting a cat, going into a haunted house that has had reportings and experimenting) instead of thinking that we are wrong becase we can not prove any "valid" information.

Yet you still seem to have not provided any of YOUR "valid" information.

Yeah, you need to reread it. I told you already, this is ad hoc reasoning. You're providing an explanation for something that cannot be explained and calling it fact.

Simply because I don't know how clouds work, does that mean it must be bugs up there flying around pulling the cotten?

But that doesn't mean it's for ghostly reasons. It could be mean that cat is ed up in the head naturally, or that it's sense different kinds of energies. Hell if I know, I'm not gonna bullshit you with my bullshit science. I gurantee you there is someone that has a proven explanation for it. Don't use my personal ignorance about science as an excuse. I barely represent science.

I never ONCE called it fact. You were the ones trying to push us into saying it was FACT. Go through and read the posts, you will clearly see that we said, we BELIEVE.

You're trying to put words in our mouths. That is not good.

That's another Devilesk for you.....

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Right there, you have proven your arguments wrong. You are saying that cats aren't tuned into the supernatural. But ENERGY is in the category of "supernatural", is it not?