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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-28 at 03:08:25
What's natural change?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-28 at 03:10:13
QUOTE(`BiG~kAhOoNa` @ Jan 28 2006, 12:08 AM)
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A chemical change in the brain in which the brain does the controlling, not a drug.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 03:11:44
QUOTE(nimadude @ Jan 28 2006, 01:06 AM)
That is a natural change, not artificial.
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O rly? How is playing StarCraft a natural reaction? You are using StarCraft, a synthetic form of pleasure, to get your jollies off.

With that logic, you're saying it's okay to do drugs because it's natural.

*Gasp* Oh no! You beat yourself at your own argument, how funny.

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QUOTE(nimadude @ Jan 28 2006, 01:10 AM)
A chemical change in the brain in which the brain does the controlling, not a drug.
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Oh, but StarCraft is a synthetic form of pleasure, thus tricking your brain into creating pleasure!

How is that "natural"?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-28 at 03:14:22
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 28 2006, 12:07 AM)
Hmm....  You're funny.  You think you know everything about me, don't you?

For your information, i've been off the drug since last December. Guess you didn't know that about me, did you?  Oh!  But you know everything about me, don't you?

Have you ever tried Marijuanna?  Or are you going off of the fabrications your puny little religion and the government have created?

Oh!  By the way.  Did you know that in the middle east, it is legal to smoke Hashish, a form of Marijuanna?  How about in India?  Did you know that Hindu's believe that Shiva is the god of Bhang, also known as Marijuanna?  If it's so bad, why do these cultures live in it?

Seems to me that only the western civilizations believe it to be "evil"
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I couldnt give a mad.gif about you. Wtf are you, some attention seeker?

Dont give me that cultural crap. Firstly, they use it for medicinal purposes. The people of ancient days have no scientific knowledge behind the potential of these drugs. With your logic, you would be accepting the theory that the sun revolves around the earth, a theory once strongly believed about before famous scientists started taking interest.


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QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 28 2006, 12:11 AM)
O rly?  How is playing StarCraft a natural reaction?  You are using StarCraft, a synthetic form of pleasure, to get your jollies off.

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I knew you would use that smart ass comment. I never said the trigger of the reaction was natural, I'm talking about the process that is happening in your brain. THe trigger gives an excitement to the brain, the brain takes control and provides a feeling of pleasure, naturally. There arent chemicals altering its normal behaviour.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-28 at 03:14:47
Ya know... If you think about it, everything is natural. Synthetic things don't just appear out of no where, they have to be made from other things. It all comes from the same place. On Earth. Funny... Turns out that things on Earth are natural...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-28 at 03:17:07
QUOTE(`BiG~kAhOoNa` @ Jan 28 2006, 12:14 AM)
[center]Ya know...  If you think about it, everything is natural.  Synthetic things don't just appear out of no where, they have to be made from other things.  It all comes from the same place.  On Earth.  Funny...  Turns out that things on Earth are natural...[/center]
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Ofcourse, elements all derived from the same place, outer space. The body's organs and functionalities however, can be altered with simple materials from earth. It is like overclocking a computer. THe computer wouldnt do that itself, you do something for it to work like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 03:23:58
QUOTE(nimadude @ Jan 28 2006, 01:14 AM)
I couldnt give a  mad.gif about you. Wtf are you, some attention seeker?

Dont give me that cultural crap. Firstly, they use it for medicinal purposes. The people of ancient days have no scientific knowledge behind the potential of these drugs. With your logic, you would be accepting the theory that the sun revolves around the earth, a theory once strongly believed about before famous scientists started taking interest.
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I knew you would use that smart ass comment. I never said the trigger of the reaction was natural, I'm talking about the process that is happening in your brain. THe trigger gives an excitement to the brain, the brain takes control and provides a feeling of pleasure, naturally. There arent chemicals altering its normal behaviour.
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If you don't give a ":mad:" about me, than why are you trying to post things about me since you "know everything" about me?

Hinduists used it thousands of years ago, as medicinal? ROFL! Where didja come up with that one? Fabrications aren't nice.

I don't use blind logic like you do, i'm sorry.

Smart ass comment? Why is it a "smart ass comment"? Because I make a point, and it conflicts with your egotisticalness?

You never said the trigger of the reaction was natural???

QUOTE(This fool)
That is a natural change, not artificial.


Do I smell hipocricy?

And with your logic you're saying that since I have Bi-Polar (Which I in fact, do) and I take my meds (hypothetically speaking) it's a synthetic reaction within my brain; Thus, making it bad?

So you're saying that if I was to watch pornography and get pleasure from it, that it's bad because it's a form of synthetic changing of the brain chemicals?

Oh! I get it.. You're talking about how your brain naturally works... I see... Well then. My brain get's higher dopamine levels from synthesis. EVERYONE'S does, whether you like to admit it or not.

Get pleasure from StarCraft? That's a form of synthetic pleasure. Watching porno? Another form. Watching T.V, or your favorite movie? Yet another form..

I don't understand your logic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-28 at 03:27:02
No, Kellimus. Stop. You are wrong. I think he means that natural is meaning not getting any physical contact with chemicals in his brain.... Everything else is okay though. As long as it's not a chemical that is in his brain...





















...Wait...That doesn't make much sense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-28 at 03:29:47
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 28 2006, 12:23 AM)
If you don't give a ":mad:" about me, than why are you trying to post things about me since you "know everything" about me?

Hinduists used it thousands of years ago, as medicinal?  ROFL!  Where didja come up with that one?  Fabrications aren't nice.

I don't use blind logic like you do, i'm sorry.

Smart ass comment?  Why is it a "smart ass comment"?  Because I make a point, and it conflicts with your egotisticalness?

You never said the trigger of the reaction was natural???

QUOTE(This fool)
That is a natural change, not artificial.


Do I smell hipocricy?

And with your logic you're saying that since I have Bi-Polar (Which I in fact, do) and I take my meds (hypothetically speaking) it's a synthetic reaction within my brain; Thus, making it bad?

So you're saying that if I was to watch pornography and get pleasure from it, that it's bad because it's a form of synthetic changing of the brain chemicals?

Oh! I get it.. You're talking about how your brain naturally works... I see... Well then. My brain get's higher dopamine levels from synthesis. EVERYONE'S does, whether you like to admit it or not.

Get pleasure from StarCraft? That's a form of synthetic pleasure. Watching porno? Another form. Watching T.V, or your favorite movie? Yet another form..

I don't understand your logic.
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It derived as a medicinal purpose. Whether it be spiritual, mental, or for the actual effect. They believe in holy pleasures that come from the drug, an uneducated thought.

Since your intelligence is too simple to comprehend what I am saying, I will leave you to your thoughts. When drugs are used for medicinal purposes, I am in favour. Stop making up false accusations of things I say, as a form of desperate comebacks.

All your examples were synthetic triggers, not synthetic products that alter the SYSTEM of the brain. The brain reacts to the sythetic trigger, as you insist on me calling it, and , without further help, uses the function in which it has to derive pleasure.

Let me explain it in your thick language. Its like playing lego, you have fun, your brain starts altering its chemicals. You dont shove legos up ur head to make this happen. It happens with no physical or chemical contact with the product in which causes the trigger (with the brain).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 03:36:41
QUOTE(nimadude @ Jan 28 2006, 01:29 AM)
It derived as a medicinal purpose. Whether it be spiritual, mental, or for the actual effect. They believe in holy pleasures that come from the drug, an uneducated thought.

Since your intelligence is too simple to comprehend what I am saying, I will leave you to your thoughts. When drugs are used for medicinal purposes,  I am in favour. Stop making up false accusations of things I say, as a form of desperate comebacks.

All your examples were synthetic triggers, not synthetic products that alter the SYSTEM of the brain. The brain reacts to the sythetic trigger, as you insist on me calling it, and , without further help, uses the function in which it has to derive pleasure.

Let me explain it in your thick language. Its like playing lego, you have fun, your brain starts altering its chemicals. You dont shove legos up ur head to make this happen. It happens with no physical or chemical contact with the product in which causes the trigger (with the brain).
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Oh. So you're now flaming the Native American's of today, too? Hmm... You didn't right out do it, but basically you called them uneducated.

Lemme tell you something. Ever heard of Peyote? Most Native Americans from the desert here in Arizona eat Peyote, even today. Guess what? They have knowledge of what it does, so how are they uneducated, when they do it for spiritual reasons?

Again, your logic confuses me.

But according to your intelligence, any form of synthetic change of the brains chemicals is bad. Oh, but get this! You are for it if it's for medicinal?

Hmm... I don't see the difference between going and buying a sack of chronic, or having it handed to you by a doctor.

Hypocricy.

And again, i'm just taking what you say and using it against you, because you attack your own arguements.

My thick language? Wow.. You really are a funny one. You just sit there and flame me left and right, good job! *Applause*

Guess you really are three.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-28 at 03:40:29
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 28 2006, 12:36 AM)
Oh.  So you're now flaming the Native American's of today, too?  Hmm...  You didn't right out do it, but basically you called them uneducated.

Lemme tell you something.  Ever heard of Peyote?  Most Native Americans from the desert here in Arizona eat Peyote, even today.  Guess what?  They have knowledge of what it does, so how are they uneducated, when they do it for spiritual reasons?

Again, your logic confuses me.

But according to your intelligence, any form of synthetic change of the brains chemicals is bad.  Oh, but get this!  You are for it if it's for medicinal?

Hmm...  I don't see the difference between going and buying a sack of chronic, or having it handed to you by a doctor.

Hypocricy.

And again, i'm just taking what you say and using it against you, because you attack your own arguements.

My thick language?  Wow..  You really are a funny one.  You just sit there and flame me left and right, good job! *Applause*

Guess you really are three.
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What hypocricy? There is a strong difference between pleasure and medicinal use.

If you fail to see that difference and call me a hypocrit, then you have no idea what you are talking about. Stop smoking pot then come and post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 03:43:36
Hmm... Smoking for spirituality is smoking for pleasure?

For your information, I used to smoke pot to help with my Bi-Polar dissorder. Technically, that is medicinal, so why are you flaming me eh?

Wow. You are a hypocrite.

And i'm sick and tired of you calling me a "burnt out pot-head"

For your information, i'm on my way to becoming sucessfull.

Where are you? At home on mommy and daddy's computer?

Oh, I forgot. You're three.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-28 at 03:44:25
QUOTE(nimadude @ Jan 28 2006, 03:40 AM)
What hypocricy? There is a strong difference between pleasure and medicinal use.

If you fail to see that difference and call me a hypocrit, then you have no idea what you are talking about. Stop smoking pot then come and post.
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Well, let's say... You have some kind of injury, and you are very unhappy and hurt. So a doctor gives you medicine. Your injury heals, but turns out one of the side effects is... Light headedness. And when you are experiencing that side effect, you like it? Is that bad? Or what's going on, since it was used as a medicine to help your injury, but you felt kind of... Dare I say high, from it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-28 at 03:47:20
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 28 2006, 12:43 AM)
Hmm...  Smoking for spirituality is smoking for pleasure?

For your information, I used to smoke pot to help with my Bi-Polar dissorder.  Technically, that is medicinal, so why are you flaming me eh?

Wow.  You are a hypocrite.

And i'm sick and tired of you calling me a "burnt out pot-head"

For your information, i'm on my way to becoming sucessfull.

Where are you?  At home on mommy and daddy's computer?

Oh, I forgot.  You're three.
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I never knew you used it for medical purposes. If so, I congratulate you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 03:52:14
Oh, so NOW you congradulate me because I use it for my Bi-Polar?

You really are a hypocrite.

Marijuanna is not bad. The only bad drawback, is smoking it.

But guess what? They have something called a Vaporizer.

Problem solved. Smokeless High.

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Now onto Mushrooms. Oh those good ol' mushrooms.

Try them. They don't hurt. Sorta bleh.gif

They give you the sense that you are part of nature. You are in love with everything, and can get along with anything and everyone.

You also have "religious" experiences from them, too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-01-28 at 04:27:39
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 28 2006, 12:52 AM)
Oh, so NOW you congradulate me because I use it for my Bi-Polar?

You really are a hypocrite.

Marijuanna is not bad.  The only bad drawback, is smoking it.

But guess what?  They have something called a Vaporizer.

Problem solved.  Smokeless High.

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Now onto Mushrooms.  Oh those good ol' mushrooms.

Try them.  They don't hurt.  Sorta bleh.gif

They give you the sense that you are part of nature.  You are in love with everything, and can get along with anything and everyone.

You also have "religious" experiences from them, too.
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You will also have a "religious" experience when you die. Its called hell.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 06:01:55
O rly?

Is it not a sin to judge?

Oh, I forgot. You're a hypocrite.

Anyways, to get back on topic:

Dramamine is a crazy experience... You feel all heavy and such, and you hallucinate. Both visually and with your ears.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-28 at 06:03:12
QUOTE(`BiG~kAhOoNa` @ Jan 28 2006, 03:44 AM)
Well, let's say...  You have some kind of injury, and you are very unhappy and hurt.  So a doctor gives you medicine.  Your injury heals, but turns out one of the side effects is... Light headedness.  And when you are experiencing that side effect, you like it?  Is that bad?  Or what's going on, since it was used as a medicine to help your injury, but you felt kind of...  Dare I say high, from it?
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nimadude, I was asking you. I'm just curious what your answer would be. Would appreciate it if you answered me.

Yeah, Dramamine is pretty crazy. After awhile you just start saying shiz that makes no sense. And you don't even realize you say it. Crazy mang. Crazy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-01-28 at 06:11:59
All drugs are good for you! Do drugs! Drugs for everyone!
*Red2Blue lets everyone have some drugs.

Yea baby!

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I couldnt give a  about you. Wtf are you, some attention seeker?


That's what they all say when they are losing a battle towards a subject, which is, to turn it into a battle against the person.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-28 at 06:42:40
marines do drugs take a look at stim pack. both a positive and negative effect.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-01-28 at 15:07:54
Kelly, you are a rare occurance. Marijuana evidently hasn't had a hold on you, just like some people never get problems from smoking, but vast majority do. EVERY single pothead I know is a dumbfark. They fail all their classes and if they're lucky, they'll get out of high school and pursue a dumbfark job. Stop assuming everyone is like you Kelly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-01-28 at 15:10:45
The only reason pot farks up your life is because you dont do your homework on it. Homework basically makes you understand what you are learning. You are going out to get high instead of doing HOMEWORK. so pot doen't actually make you dumber. I have 100% proof that pot doesn't make you stupid actually. i just dont want to talk about it (much too personal)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 15:12:00
Well, when I know someone who was on Acedemic Decathalon, graduated high school, is makint $10+ an hour doing hard wood flooring and smokes weed, it's kind of hard not to believe that it doesn't effect you.

Same with my roomates. The two of them (Minus the third) are pot-heads. And look at where we're at.

My friends back home. Sure, ONE of them is a no good worthless pos (But he has always been like that, even before he got into drugs) But the others are successful.

It's not my fault, that the pot-heads around your area, are retarded immature rejects that allow the drug to take control of their life
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-01-28 at 15:17:54
Well, most of the people where I live are retards anyway...

And it's not that they don't do their homework (which they don't do), they are complete IDIOTS. They're slow to learning, and always do shiz for attention.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 15:23:40
Exactly. So you cannot make assumptions that Marijuanna does that to you.

That's like saying that just because I freak out here on SeN and act "immature", that i'm immature in real life.
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