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Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-01-23 at 14:51:35

QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Jan 22 2006, 11:40 PM)

However, I'm working double on FireGraft(BK is helping me, a lot), and we'll see how it goes.

ok, i understand u , that is troublesome job
also memgraft is not your ownership just make ur own FireGraft
if u want support things anything else , i would support to u ~!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-23 at 15:18:10

I personally don't see what SI was upset about on the DLDB page (unless it was deleted). All I see is people thanking DoA for updating it. He didn't even take credit for the program. -.-

I suppose that's in the past now.

Good luck with FireGraft, DoA. FireGraft and Pizudraft show great promise for the future.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-23 at 16:12:19

It was.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-23 at 18:01:39

Oh, I see.

Well then I hope SI doesn't/didn't judge a whole community by the actions of a few individuals.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Lead_Factor on 2006-01-23 at 19:10:17

but most likely (looking at past actions) he already did blame most of us....except SEN's older members that he trusts of cource

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-23 at 20:00:18

Maybe, but don't get down on him. Remember, SCMDraft2 is the, imo, best map making program that exists. We as a community are fortunate to have him providing that for us. Our actions may not say so at times, but I believe that most people are grateful for him.

All things considered, we can just go forward and hope for the best.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-23 at 21:43:52

well if we didnt have DRAFT theres forge. but forge needs like 100 things to make it run correctly...still good thou

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-01-24 at 02:01:45

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Yeah, cloud states my point SI can't comprehend.

Modders need MemGraft.

Mappers don't need SCMDraft.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-01-24 at 08:14:30

QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Jan 23 2006, 12:40 AM)

About Memgraft(the responses are to Voyagers suggestions about it)

1. I believe SI destroyed his(which was the only) copy of the source code after seeing the DLDB page for Memgraft 1.13e.

2. Here's what is wrong. There are way too many offsets now. There's not enough room to hex edit them.

3. Trust me, if I could, I would.

4. I wasn't smart when I updated to 1.13e(did I mentioned I tried to do a 1.13a and a 1.13b update too, but it kinda died off until 1.13e came out). From what I can tell, DW and SI don't like when people complain about their stuff. If you read the comments for 1.13e Memgraft in the DLDB, you'll see why. Personally, I think both sides overreacted. I didn't mean to go behind them, I should have just sent the offs and have them update it. I'm not at all glad this happend, I really liked Memgraft. Anyway, I think it is dead. Oh, and just for the record: Memgraft never was my program. Remember, DW wrote it.

However, I'm working double on FireGraft(BK is helping me, a lot), and we'll see how it goes.

As a final note: If DW/SI happens to read this, and I happen to be wrong and there is still a source copy left, I'd be happy to supply a proper list of offsets for everything needed to update it.
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1: there may still be a copy on a backup DVD, however I store those in a storage room at the local university.
4: I dont really mind you updating, I'm fine with that although I would like to be told about it. What really got me annoyed was the text in the DLDB and certain peoples stances on mine and DW's work.

If you have an offset list I can see if I can find the DVD, however not until after finals.

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QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jan 24 2006, 02:01 AM)

Yeah, cloud states my point SI can't comprehend.

Modders need MemGraft.

Mappers don't need SCMDraft.
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and I'll say it again, when DW & I am paid to code these tools instead of doing it as a hobby, then that is a valid argument. Until then no soup for you

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-24 at 08:31:40

QUOTE(SI)

If you have an offset list I can see if I can find the DVD, however not until after finals.

Okay, well, I've got all the offsets, so how long would that be? And how would you like them organized(I don't have a VB complier, and I believe that is what it was written in.) Also, if I list some small things(like text strings that aren't right), could those also be corrected?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SI on 2006-01-24 at 12:10:09

QUOTE(DiscipleOfAdun @ Jan 24 2006, 08:31 AM)

QUOTE(SI)

If you have an offset list I can see if I can find the DVD, however not until after finals.

try to catch me after the 10th (best after the 13th), until then I wont be around much.
memgraft is coded in C++ btw

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheEvilBeaVer on 2006-01-24 at 12:13:04

No MemGraft?!? Nooooooo! My life doesnt have a meaning anymore

Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-01-24 at 12:44:04

i just wonder that How can make the way to find out "offset"
search out each HEX codes in starcraft.exe / *.dll files and testing at each times?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-24 at 13:24:56

C++, huh? I never knew. Anyway, I will do that then. Good luck on your finals.

nirvanajung - I actually search for the hex and look at a dissassembly of the exe to find the offsets. Most of the times, I know if I find a fake one. the problem with trying to make an program that will find them is that it's just intuition when you find a fake one. Plus, you have to know what it really means, or it is just numbers.

EvilBeaver - Don't worry. However, both SI and I have other things right now. Personally, I'm very far behind on my school work, and should be doing that. Wait until Feb., we'll see how things turn out.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-24 at 13:41:13

If money is a factor I'll pay you

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.HydrA.oO on 2006-01-24 at 20:13:04

Hehe, I'll give double what dorkhawk is paying you.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Lead_Factor on 2006-01-24 at 21:17:04

SI - lol I always thought that memgraft was coded in VB6 too....o well....I gues not

DoA - Did you reverse engineer memgraft or code your own from scratch?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by DiscipleOfAdun on 2006-01-24 at 23:28:41

I took SI's 1.12b version, compared offsets, then found the updated ones. It only works if there are at most the same amount of offsets. If I was able to code my own, we wouldn't be here thanking SI for even considering digging out his backups for a copy of the source. Can we just leave Memgraft alone for now, please? That's all I want to say on the matter.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2006-01-25 at 00:02:57

Nobody really cherishes anything until it's gone.

How ungrateful.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Lead_Factor on 2006-01-25 at 10:35:51

How can you miss something if it's still there?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-01-25 at 14:51:41

QUOTE(RexyRex @ Jan 25 2006, 01:02 AM)

Nobody really misses anything until it's gone.

How ungrateful.
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Because we don't need to complain about it not being here.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Aikanaro on 2006-01-25 at 16:30:41

QUOTE(RexyRex @ Jan 25 2006, 12:02 AM)

Nobody really misses anything until it's gone.

How ungrateful.
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Why would we miss it if its not gone anyways? Or maybe you mean: "Nobody realizes how fortunate we are to have certain tools until they are gone" Although, I do not agree with that.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by greenreaper on 2006-01-25 at 21:07:28

No, it's "Nobody really cherishes anything until it's gone".

Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Lead_Factor on 2006-01-26 at 15:13:15

Now ^^THAT^^ makes sence...but also doesnt aply to everyone here.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2006-01-26 at 20:27:05

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Anyways, I'll change my post...and stop trying to look retarded. Sorry about that.
Still doesn't mean that it doesn't apply to...everyone here. All you hear is people complaining that StarForge has bugs and that MemGraft needs to be updated.

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