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Thank you felagund for telling ppl that its from the soundtrack "requiem for a dream", some of them didnt believe me when i told them like 2 pages earlier.

At least with got that sorted then, what pages have links, to tired to check them all, and since i don't have starcraft i can't watch it, i'd still like get some view of it.

Very good Trailer Tux can't wait to see the whole thing.

Well the song that Tux picked was from LOTR SO HA
WE WERE BOTH RIGHT!

We already said that the music wasnt from LOTR, it was used in LOTR but it ISNT from LOTR.

uh golden-fist, i dun want to sound like im trying to be a bad-a$$ know-it-all person, but you ween't right in the slightest. We already sorted it out thats its not from LotR, and that its real name isnt requiem for a dream. So now can we move on plz?

Yes, we can, so what does the future hold for our Tux!?

wtf is wrong with u
the VERSION he used was from LOTR soundtrack in whihc case i was right!
there IS a song called w/e from the movie requim of a dream
LOTR did a remix of THAT SONG and Tux used the REMIX so we WERE both right

Well in Kazaa if u search Requiem for a Dream you'll get different versions from that song, the one Tux used apppeared i think in The Two Towers trailer or something, but im not sure if its or not from LOTR soundtrack, its not played in any part of the movie though.

*Yoshi da Sniper notices a swarm of humans piling into the topic "A&O trailer" so he checks it out...

Great job on the Trailer tux, i just hope that the actual game itself will blow this trailer away, i expect great work from you

Hey tux, saw your trailer a few days ago, i have to say, its a pretty unique idea... many people woudn't think about such an idea, and im pretty sure this is gonna be a very great map... =). As with all tuxedo-templar maps im pretty sure that im gonna love it... good job man. You apparently know your way around accumulates and counters. (ps about the music.... as ive noticed, the song doesn't end at the same time as the visualizations... slicing the song might have helped this problem...)

keep making those great maps!

*sigh*, the song DOES end in time with everything else. As I've said ad nauseum: don't play it multiplayer. SC simply doesn't like to keep wavs in sync when lag occurs, and even with perfect latency, other players cause the timings to get thrown off. Try watching it in an empty bnet or LAN game to see what I mean.

Tuxedo.. I cant believe you wasted time making a trailer. (not that there's anything wrong with the trailer, it rocks!)

I think SaLaCiouS(U) is being a little over-sensitive for everyone saying how great your trailer is. I mean, its true that its JUST a trailer and everything and that the map is the real thing you should be waiting for... But when he just went on a rant about that "oh, any newb could make a trailer like that except for the heat wave affect" and "its not that hard to time the music with the scenes" that was just crossing the line.

SaLaCiouS(U), so what if anyone could make a map like that? It rocks! If people here could make maps just as good as that, then why are so many people on SC and BW saying how great it is? Wouldn't it be more like "Oh, cool.." instead of going insane of how close it is to perfection?

It's not about the ability the mapmaker used. It's about the concept. (and the bells and whistles which you talked about)

Let's take one of your own examples, OMFG the ZERGLINGS!!!

The reason its so popular is not just because its fast and action-paced. Here are some of the other reasons:
1. The concept, or goal, is simple (SURVIVE!).
2. Game play is easy enough. (whoo, make marines and firebats... with minerals)

Now, obviously, it didnt exactly become popular because of stacking, great plot, complex scenery and cut-scenes that blow your mind away. Want to know why?

BECAUSE IT DIDNT NEED IT!!!!

Some games dont really need so much detail to make it good. But notice i said good, not great.

Now lets take another example my friend Starmanjr. made, Infinite Shift.
He took this idea from dreigun who created The Pan, which is from 1169's RACERS. Since dreigun hasnt been on much, Star never asked dreigun if he could use the idea. Anyways...

The Game: Your screen is centered on a non-visible obsever and your objective is to dodge fire (dark archons) while keeping your ling in the screen, because if you dont keep him in the screen (the size of the location) you die. Square terrain, center view, center locations on observer and ling... wow.....

And this thing doesnt even have any cool music to it!!!
So why can it be popular? I dont really see anything appealing to it on screen...

Want to know why?

BECAUSE THE IDEA IS USING VARIABLES OFF THE COMP!!!

People - the ultimate source for playing a game.
People decide what game to play.
People decide what slot they are in. (I like being purp )
People decide where to click, when to attack, when to flee.
But... this game makes an interesting twist to normal play.
The screen is continually moving, so, in effect, your arrow on the screen is moving too even though ur not actually touching the mouse. (dont understand? play the game)
So now, you have to continually correct your infinately shifting arrow and during so, you must navigate a maze of dark archons AND other players. That's not easy at all, making you focus, which may create adrenline rush, making addiction!

Hence this game with so-called "shotty craftsmanship" in other peoples standards in comparsion to ability is fun.

Now, SaLaCiouS(U), I'm not saying ur an idiot, because you aren't. I just think you just got too annoyed with people enjoying a mini-clip that really doesn't give much info. (its just bells and whistles, with no actual foundation, right?) and how everyone is saying the music is so perfectly timed.
One thing to think about though, is how good do you think movie commericals would be without music? (some commercials would still be partially good though).

Anyways, as one of the other people said, it's making people talk about it right?
Heck, I just spent about 20 minutes writing this thing for it. Oh well.

I hope this cleared stuff up. Oh yeah, one more thing.

I think i know what he meant in the trailer about the intro text about "I shall return" and those other ones.

Ok, the daemons are the "enemies of peace." Niloc "the hero temp" may or may not be the one talking, but I'm sure his "pets", the Androms, are the good guys, for they created a barricade, or watched a barricade, repel the daemons. Now, Niloc may not be the hero for he opened up a crystal foundation which the Androms walked in. The hero may be locked up frozen in time in crystal. Now, when the Androms were in this facilty and went halluncation and into dark temps, that was to not be detected by the secruity guard. Maybe the androms need to save someone from the humans, which may be in league with Queen Katrina, who controls the extremely large army. But, I wonder who Daemtrius is. (The floating Starports and Science facilities)

This is my view on what the trailer said. (See? I did get some info. from the trailer SaLaCiouS(U).) And for anyone who doesnt know yet,
A&O is Alpha and Omega.

Hehe, it's funny hearing speculation about what's going to happen in the map based on the trailer. I won't reveal anything yet, but rest assured it goes MUCH deeper than all that when you start to get into it. I've started on the official webpage today and I might finish it soon, and I'll include some backstory, character bios, pics, progress, downloads, links, etc., and also maybe another "surprise" if I can finish it on time.

I won't stop saying it: this thing is gonna be big!

Interesting thing that, you know if this is seen as a good campaign by those over at Campaign Creations they will host it for you, and your website, saving you money and such, and also likely have a faster download speed, some of the "Campaigns" at that website are just a single, well-done, good playing map, though most of them are a few years old...

Before most of these gamers times...

I just realized this is now the 3rd most veiwed thread here at SEN.

Really shows how much of a big deal everyone is making of this.

Well duh people is making a big deal of it.. just as Tux said in the Poll: "It's all about the chease. Remember that."
Actually, probably another reason is because it just overwhelms people so quickly, (That's why people watch Superbowl commericals)

i think SaLaCiouS(U) (its funny how we always copy and paste his name )
SaLaCiouS(U) is upset cause everyone is like:
WOW THOSE ARE AWESOME AFFECTS!!!!!11111
and he's just saying that it's not that hard to do.

He is correct about that, effects by themselfs are easy. Although its weird to hear a person who claimed disabling beacons was difficult go on about how easy it would be to make the preveiw.

Hahaha he did Bolt? That's sorta sad... Oh well...

I wonder when he'll ever actually read my essay-sized thing against him and yell at me

Ahh, leave him alone. He knows he's made mistakes with his... uh... peculiar perspective. He's kind of like Fox News. You know he's very vocal, opinionated, and biased, but you just let him do his thing anyway. He isn't hurting anybody.

Heh.. I guess ur right... lol

What do you mean Fox is biased.. no they're not...
HAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA sorry... couldn't help myself.

Sala is a dumbass. Everything he posts is either negative, without helpful criticism, spam, or praising stupid ideas. He left too, didn't he? Thank god.

Anyways, effects are not difficult. HOWEVER, timing the effects with music, action, and everything else is. Plus, the trailer comes off as a very well-planned piece of work, despite the two days that went into it.

lol im so glad all you guys are typing.. I get more minerals...

YAY MINERALS!!!

Anyways... ya it is pretty cool for only 2 days worth... dang...
Tuxedo-Templar is so freaking good. I think he should post in the forum "You know you love Staredit when..." I bet he could think up a lot of stuff... probably take away too much time from his map though heheh.

-Tuxedo Templar
the preveiw WAS NOT hard to make acording to him
Unless i screwed up something
SaLaCiouS(U) didnt really say anything negtive that didnt help at all. I dont rember him saying:
"Your map d3h sux0rs LOL?"
so he did help a little as i said before he was upset how everyone was like WOW THOSE AFFECTS WERE AWESOME!
then he pointed out they werent hard (most of them) like how the units ATTACK EACH OTHER... Wow amazing Order units at this area attack this area or unally each other not that hard. Or when the units moved
So he didnt know why everyone was like:
A&O TRAILER IS AWESOME NOTHING IS THAT GOOD

yep...