Report, edit, etc...Posted by SacredElf on 2005-08-16 at 16:45:37
i didnt say there was no risk at all, i say if it was too much risk
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fronter on 2005-08-16 at 16:47:13
This is sad... But, but, then again it was for the best I suppose. I just loved EUD triggers so much, and they were a breakthrough, but it is better if we didn't support them...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kenoli on 2005-08-16 at 16:47:21
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Indeed. Sexual intercourse is the greatest thing ever. to bad it's also the reason why women get pregnant. Ohh poo, looks like we will just have to be more careful the future, won't we? Indeed.
Interesting.
Sexual intercorse (EUDtriggers) is the greatest thing ever. Too bad it's also the reason why women get pregnant (mapvirus). Ohh poo, looks like we will just have to be more careful in the future, won't we?
You know, space shuttles can and do explode, astronauts take a huge risk on every mission. Does that mean they should never try? Give up because of the risk?
Or maybe just "be more careful in the future"?
Maybe you guys should never have sexual intercorse, the risk is too great.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-16 at 16:51:59
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didnt say there was no risk at all, i say if it was too much risk
My mistake, but people will have to argue anyways.
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Interesting.
Sexual intercorse (EUDtriggers) is the greatest thing ever. Too bad it's also the reason why women get pregnant (mapvirus). Ohh poo, looks like we will just have to be more careful in the future, won't we?
You know, space shuttles can and do explode, astronauts take a huge risk on every mission. Does that mean they should never try? Give up because of the risk?
Or maybe just "be more careful in the future"?
Maybe you guys should never have sexual intercorse, the risk is too great.
Sexual intercorse (EUDtriggers) is the greatest thing ever. Too bad it's also the reason why women get pregnant (mapvirus). Ohh poo, looks like we will just have to be more careful in the future, won't we?
You know, space shuttles can and do explode, astronauts take a huge risk on every mission. Does that mean they should never try? Give up because of the risk?
Or maybe just "be more careful in the future"?
Maybe you guys should never have sexual intercorse, the risk is too great.
We tried, and it did not work. And one should always be careful. Unfortunately, no one has or will develop "condoms" for the EUD technology. They should not have to. EUD is done for, unlike sexual intercourse, which is required for the survival of a human race. EUDs are not. If it were, why then did SC survive seven plus years without it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SacredElf on 2005-08-16 at 16:52:24
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Interesting.
Sexual intercorse (EUDtriggers) is the greatest thing ever. Too bad it's also the reason why women get pregnant (mapvirus). Ohh poo, looks like we will just have to be more careful in the future, won't we?
You know, space shuttles can and do explode, astronauts take a huge risk on every mission. Does that mean they should never try? Give up because of the risk?
Or maybe just "be more careful in the future"?
Maybe you guys should never have sexual intercorse, the risk is too great.
Sexual intercorse (EUDtriggers) is the greatest thing ever. Too bad it's also the reason why women get pregnant (mapvirus). Ohh poo, looks like we will just have to be more careful in the future, won't we?
You know, space shuttles can and do explode, astronauts take a huge risk on every mission. Does that mean they should never try? Give up because of the risk?
Or maybe just "be more careful in the future"?
Maybe you guys should never have sexual intercorse, the risk is too great.
ur right, but yoshi dont want to support EUDs, is a personal decision and is good for every1
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SuperToast on 2005-08-16 at 17:13:58
No offense, but some of you need to learn how to type in things called sentences and use an amazing invention called grammar. This isn't some chat room, you should be spending more then 30 seconds typing out whatever inane response you have.
Some people keep mentioning we should have blind obedience to yoshi just because he said so. That is a childish view. The most vital part of a community is open discussion and communication, you get nowhere from just accepting what someone else says as though it were divine judgement or infallible.
My main problem still going on is that starcraft is still not safe. Regular (non-eudenabler) bnet is still vulnerable from other uses of extended units and players in triggers. The average b.net person who is completly ignorant to the whole EUD concept, is still vulnerable from other extended things in triggers. While EUDs may be gone, there are still huge vulnerabilities that exist.
Some people keep mentioning we should have blind obedience to yoshi just because he said so. That is a childish view. The most vital part of a community is open discussion and communication, you get nowhere from just accepting what someone else says as though it were divine judgement or infallible.
My main problem still going on is that starcraft is still not safe. Regular (non-eudenabler) bnet is still vulnerable from other uses of extended units and players in triggers. The average b.net person who is completly ignorant to the whole EUD concept, is still vulnerable from other extended things in triggers. While EUDs may be gone, there are still huge vulnerabilities that exist.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-08-16 at 17:16:09
I'd agree with the last post
You are here only cause yoshi let's you.
He's only here because...
uh..
let me get a regular rank and maybe I'll have an answer.
personaly I wasn't too happy about the enabler.
It's trust prevoking blizzard.
You are here only cause yoshi let's you.
He's only here because...
uh..
let me get a regular rank and maybe I'll have an answer.
personaly I wasn't too happy about the enabler.
It's trust prevoking blizzard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-08-16 at 17:29:55
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He should not have to. I think it is a statement of something we lost, and it is a memorial. Also it is rather funny to see a Battlecruiser with shield. After all, the BC does sa "Shields up, weapons online". He has weapons, but where are the shields?
If you select him again he actually says "Not equipped with shields? Well then buckle up." At least im pretty sure he says that.
Anyway, I think it should be kept just have warnings so people don't go mad if something bad does happen and try to make it as safe as possible (sort of like the way it's working) and not just give up on it. In my opinion it doesn't make much sense to not even give the option.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2005-08-16 at 17:43:30
was Yoshi email by Blizzard? -__-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2005-08-16 at 17:44:34
Starcraft is starting to die and we have all seen this. Then the one thing that has a chance to help revive Starcraft is shot down. I have been away for awhile and came back and read all the stuff about EUD's and they interested me but come to find out they had been patched. Then Hiemdal comes up with this little program that allows them to be Enabled again and then I am like hey cool I can do a map using EUD's then. Then Yoshi does not support the program but I still think you support EUD maps from trusted SEN members. If all else have Hiemdal or DeathKnight be the ones who review and make sure the EUD maps are appropriate and safe to submit. You could have anyone that is gonna submit a EUD map have it like this "NewMap(EUD)". NewMap would be where the name is and then you could have a section just for EUD maps and have a little warning "Play at your own Risk" "EUD Enabler Required".
Maybe not support the EUD Enabler but please at least support EUD maps Yoshi. I would be willing to test all EUD Maps submited to make sure they didn't have a virus and safe for the community. I have three computers in my house and Play starcraft on my old crappy computer so that is still has use and it would not hurt me to have to re-install windows I have done it many times just due to the computer harddisk being old. I am willing to infect a Computer to keep EUD maps alive. At map nights we could play our EUD maps with trusted SEN members and then that way everything would be safe. (As others would put it then safe sex and what I mentioned is as good as using condoms during sex and the girl using birthcontrol. You get the intercourse you want but due to the condom it is not as good as it should be but at least it is safe.)
Maybe not support the EUD Enabler but please at least support EUD maps Yoshi. I would be willing to test all EUD Maps submited to make sure they didn't have a virus and safe for the community. I have three computers in my house and Play starcraft on my old crappy computer so that is still has use and it would not hurt me to have to re-install windows I have done it many times just due to the computer harddisk being old. I am willing to infect a Computer to keep EUD maps alive. At map nights we could play our EUD maps with trusted SEN members and then that way everything would be safe. (As others would put it then safe sex and what I mentioned is as good as using condoms during sex and the girl using birthcontrol. You get the intercourse you want but due to the condom it is not as good as it should be but at least it is safe.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-08-16 at 17:47:14
Could someone please answer me the question, once and for all:
Can EUD triggers be exploited to harm your computer?
People say yes, people say no, Voyager is confused.
Can EUD triggers be exploited to harm your computer?
People say yes, people say no, Voyager is confused.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-08-16 at 17:52:47
Yes they can, otherwise this topic probably wouldn't even be here, and probably not 1.13b at all either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SacredElf on 2005-08-16 at 17:57:31
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was Yoshi email by Blizzard? -__-
maybee...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-16 at 18:05:17
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Could someone please answer me the question, once and for all:
Can EUD triggers be exploited to harm your computer?
People say yes, people say no, Voyager is confused.
Can EUD triggers be exploited to harm your computer?
People say yes, people say no, Voyager is confused.
The answer is "yes". Let no one say otherwise, for they don't know what they are talking about. YES.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-16 at 18:06:31
QUOTE(Lisk @ Aug 16 2005, 05:43 PM)
was Yoshi email by Blizzard? -__-
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QUOTE(Bringer(MC) @ Aug 16 2005, 05:44 PM)
Starcraft is starting to die and we have all seen this. Then the one thing that has a chance to help revive Starcraft is shot down. I have been away for awhile and came back and read all the stuff about EUD's and they interested me but come to find out they had been patched. Then Hiemdal comes up with this little program that allows them to be Enabled again and then I am like hey cool I can do a map using EUD's then. Then Yoshi does not support the program but I still think you support EUD maps from trusted SEN members. If all else have Hiemdal or DeathKnight be the ones who review and make sure the EUD maps are appropriate and safe to submit. You could have anyone that is gonna submit a EUD map have it like this "NewMap(EUD)". NewMap would be where the name is and then you could have a section just for EUD maps and have a little warning "Play at your own Risk" "EUD Enabler Required".
Maybe not support the EUD Enabler but please at least support EUD maps Yoshi. I would be willing to test all EUD Maps submited to make sure they didn't have a virus and safe for the community. I have three computers in my house and Play starcraft on my old crappy computer so that is still has use and it would not hurt me to have to re-install windows I have done it many times just due to the computer harddisk being old. I am willing to infect a Computer to keep EUD maps alive. At map nights we could play our EUD maps with trusted SEN members and then that way everything would be safe. (As others would put it then safe sex and what I mentioned is as good as using condoms during sex and the girl using birthcontrol. You get the intercourse you want but due to the condom it is not as good as it should be but at least it is safe.)
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Maybe not support the EUD Enabler but please at least support EUD maps Yoshi. I would be willing to test all EUD Maps submited to make sure they didn't have a virus and safe for the community. I have three computers in my house and Play starcraft on my old crappy computer so that is still has use and it would not hurt me to have to re-install windows I have done it many times just due to the computer harddisk being old. I am willing to infect a Computer to keep EUD maps alive. At map nights we could play our EUD maps with trusted SEN members and then that way everything would be safe. (As others would put it then safe sex and what I mentioned is as good as using condoms during sex and the girl using birthcontrol. You get the intercourse you want but due to the condom it is not as good as it should be but at least it is safe.)
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SC wont die because of no EUDs. Plus, EUD conditions still exist, were left unpatched, and such (they dont allow writing to memory).
Not everyone plays on their crappy computer, so you cant speak for everyone. I can't have this as a "trusted" thing, Staredit.net isn't a privatized thing, its something for everyone.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-16 at 18:07:24
Personally, I plan on continuing playing despite any "dangers" it provides.
Hey, it means I'll only be able to play EUD maps by people taht I know and trust, but that's no big loss.
Hey, it means I'll only be able to play EUD maps by people taht I know and trust, but that's no big loss.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-16 at 18:09:33
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Not everyone plays on their crappy computer, so you cant speak for everyone. I can't have this as a "trusted" thing, Staredit.net isn't a privatized thing, its something for everyone.
Indeed. Not everyone has multiple computers in their house. ome of us HAVE to be careful, because it would not affect us alone, but everyone else that uses the computer.
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Personally, I plan on continuing playing despite any "dangers" it provides.
Hey, it means I'll only be able to play EUD maps by people taht I know and trust, but that's no big loss.
Hey, it means I'll only be able to play EUD maps by people taht I know and trust, but that's no big loss.
Just becuase you don't have Enabler, doesn't mean you can't play normal maps. It simply gives you the ADDED option of playing EUD maps. Normal maps are always playable unless corrupted, and unplayable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-16 at 18:12:15
Rofl I've been gone for a few days and I find a huge mess of posts I guess I better catch up on the new events.
I guess I better catch up on the new events.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-08-16 at 18:13:32
Well someone intelligent enough to put a virus in a map for malicious intent isn't very intelligent to wait for someone like me to "come across" something as obvious as the EUDs. It was always available, whoever wanted to make a virus could have during any patch--
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xszerg on 2005-08-16 at 18:21:13
Yoshi I dont hate you I didn't even get to use or dl it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-16 at 18:26:21
Seeing as how I have been away for just a few days I would like to put my opinion about this EUDEnabler. Now I've been away from all the hype and crap and probably missed all the "OMG EUD's are back!" and stuff. I think that people should just let EUD's go and just go back to the way things were before EUD's. People were fine without them.
I think it's annoying looking at these page long replies with people saying how without EUD's Starcraft will die and stuff. I got over EUD's after Blizzard patched it and never looked back. I think everyone else should do the same.
I think it's annoying looking at these page long replies with people saying how without EUD's Starcraft will die and stuff. I got over EUD's after Blizzard patched it and never looked back. I think everyone else should do the same.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-08-16 at 18:31:26
Whether people respect your decision or not, Yoshi, EUDs as far as I can tell were SC's only hope for a future. Now we have to either wait for Project Revolution, or (god forbid) SC2... two projects that have been procrastinated into high heaven.
I blame general human incompetance. We should all be ruled by robots.
I blame general human incompetance. We should all be ruled by robots.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SoftWarewolf on 2005-08-16 at 18:35:24
i could understand this ridiculous behavior from blizzard, but not from you.
i was a bit suprised you let this one hack pass onto SEN in the first place,
but now you have just ruined the dreams of people who finally thought they could make a EUD map and have it played widely.
however with this decision you have yet another big decision to make:
will you let maps using EUD's pass onto SEN's dl base?
ADDITION:
i put this in a seperate post since it might be removed.
you can download EUD enabler from -=read news post, I said im not allowing links to it on this site=-
it will be kept up so feel free to post it in your maps
i was a bit suprised you let this one hack pass onto SEN in the first place,
but now you have just ruined the dreams of people who finally thought they could make a EUD map and have it played widely.
however with this decision you have yet another big decision to make:
will you let maps using EUD's pass onto SEN's dl base?
ADDITION:
i put this in a seperate post since it might be removed.
you can download EUD enabler from -=read news post, I said im not allowing links to it on this site=-
it will be kept up so feel free to post it in your maps
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-08-16 at 18:37:07
Whose gonna make EUD maps now anyway?
ADDITION:
And more importantly: Whose gonna play them if they're made?
ADDITION:
And more importantly: Whose gonna play them if they're made?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-16 at 18:38:20
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Aug 16 2005, 06:31 PM)
Whether people respect your decision or not, Yoshi, EUDs as far as I can tell were SC's only hope for a future. Now we have to either wait for Project Revolution, or (god forbid) SC2... two projects that have been procrastinated into high heaven.
I blame general human incompetance. We should all be ruled by robots.
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I know this, but its also a potential for disaster. Right now was the time to take it down, as EUDs are still in the baby stages still. If it had grown, people would be too used to it and chaos would come.I blame general human incompetance. We should all be ruled by robots.
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QUOTE(SoftWarewolf @ Aug 16 2005, 06:32 PM)
i could understand this ridiculous behavior from blizzard, but not from you.
i was a bit suprised you let this one hack pass onto SEN in the first place,
but now you have just ruined the dreams of people who finally thought they could make a EUD map and have it played widely.
however with this decision you have yet another big decision to make:
will you let maps using EUD's pass onto SEN's dl base?
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I never let this "hack" or whatever you call it pass in the first place. Someone else approved it and I was away for the weekend. In the future I think I'll be making measures so that only admins can approve of news posts.i was a bit suprised you let this one hack pass onto SEN in the first place,
but now you have just ruined the dreams of people who finally thought they could make a EUD map and have it played widely.
however with this decision you have yet another big decision to make:
will you let maps using EUD's pass onto SEN's dl base?
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Maps with EUD will not be allowed in the database, mostly for the DLDB keeper's protection, as they will not be downloading or using EUDenabler.