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Let me get this straight here:

A lot of presidents get attacked by radical groups over the years. They could've stopped them, but they did almost nothing. Big deal, old news.

Bush does the exact same thing, except he DID do something afterwards. Any president would've after seeing 9/11. I think we all can agree on that.

So, where is it clinton's fault? You trying to tell me, that America, The US of A, can not take down a group of guys in 7 months? Even with all the intelligence from the PREVIOUS president? I mean, did Osama control china's army or something?

It's called basic blame. Let's say you walked out side in a really bad storm, knowing you COULD get hit by lightning. Well, you don't. Most that happens is you step in a mud puddle or something. Well, a little bit later, another guys does the exact same thing as you, and he DOES get hit by lightning. Is it your fault that he got hit by lightning?

And don't say bush couldn't have stopped the terrorists, so please, read this paragraph once more:

So, where is it clinton's fault? You trying to tell me, that America, The US of A, can not take down a group of guys in 7 months? Even with all the intelligence from the PREVIOUS president? I mean, did Osama control china's army or something?

The entire world working together haven't been able to bring down Al Qaeda. The UK managed to get attacked, as did Spain. Don't say that the US should have been able to take care of it in 7 months.

We can't blame Bush for those, considering after he got attacked; he greatly stepped up the pressure on Al Qaeda. However, how did they get so powerful and so wide-spread?

It's because Clinton did not step up the pressure after the first attack. He allowed them to grow for8 years. You guys are trying to place the blame on Bush for not stopping Al Qaeda in 7 months. Step back and look at yourselves.

Actually, Kellimus isn't going to say that anymore, because he said that it wasn't the president's responsibility. So this is to you, Alpha(MC): If you blame Bush, you have to blame Clinton more.


edit: Guys, stop with the bad analogies that don't take into effect that Al Qaeda was able to grow under Clinton.

I believe 9/11 was a horrible day. But what I hated even more how the government acted the days after blaming it on people and using it as an excuse to invade Iraq. The sad fact of the story is that these things happen unfortunely and people are going to have to live with it and hopefully not act so rashly the next time it happens.

Again you seem to ignore my arguments.

Al Qaeda has been around since before BUSH SR! So stop blaming Clinton for Al Qaeda when they just decided to strike when he was president!

That's the 2nd time you've said my analogies suck without even telling me why. Now that's just flat out condescending.

OK, that's so stupid that I'll just stop replying now.

Because you have no rebuttle to his argument because you ignore them?

Edit: Cleared out the two same posts

I see you DID tell me that time. I retract my post right above. Sorry about that. It was just such a bad response, it didn't really register as a reason for me.

Ego, you can not blame just clinton. You would have to go further if you're gonna blame people like that. They all almost did the same thing as one another when it came to stuff like this. I gurantee you, bush would've kept doing the same thing had it not been 9/11. Any president would've done the same.

Just the lightning strike happened to bush. Get the analogy now?

Only thing left I see that you have going on, is bush could not have stopped them even if he wanted to. But, here's the kicker: He wouldn't have anyways, even if he had the ability. Personally, I think he did have the ability.

As for that whole, we can't find them for 7 months, we've been kinda like, in Iraq lately. Also, did it ever occur to you that maybe those 7 months is when Al Qaeda got even stronger? You can't do it like 8 years to 7 months. If I wanted to start a terrorist faction, it would take me years until I can finally get my self a name. So for those first few years, I'm just your average radical. And now and then I would blow something up. You can't count those years. I'm just not big enough of a snowball yet.

I believe you have this misunderstanding about me. Thinking I'm a partisan, and that I hate bush because of this whole 9/11 thing. Any president would've done the same thing. Just like all the others. So it's not just bush's really, it's more like everyone's. Oh wait, that's kinda like, what I've been saying the whole time practically.

Bush changed his policy when the US was attacked. Clinton didn't change his policy when the US was attacked. I don't see your point.


As for the blame thing:

I keep saying that the only reason I'm arguing is to get Kellimus to admit that, if he blames Bush, he should blame Clinton as well.

Personally, I think we should blame the people that did it.

Of COURSE he did. Who the hell wouldn't? 9/11 was a major historic event for america. For him to do nothing about it, would kill his next campaign. If it was just the average, 20-30 people dead, he wouldn't really have cared. And neither would I.

I think kell has already been argeeing with you then, cause I remember him having a similar stance as mine.

And yes, I do think the real people to blame are al qaeda. That's the main reason why I got really pissed off about Iraq.

Show me where its says in our decleration of war that it states "We are going to war with Iraq becuase they helped cause 9/11"


Personnally thats entirely false statement, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, they were pretty good friends with al quada, even harboring some Al Quada members pre-9/11, but they never caused 9/11.

Iraqis are good people and they do want their country to succeed. Just today America handed over another one of our bases in a holy shiite(dunno how to spell) city, Im glad we are slowly handing Iraq back it the Iraqis so they can protect them selfs and our GIs can stop getting hit with IEDs....

Yup. You did ignore my argument.

I said Clinton has some blame, but not as much as you're trying to put on him.

You just never listen, do you?

more then you do obviously