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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kenoli on 2006-05-07 at 19:04:14
As long as we're not required to use it, who cares! tongue.gif (actually, a lot of people do, but that's not the point)

One problem you'd see is people smoking it in public places. Imagine you're sitting there in the station, waiting for a train, getting high because of some guy smoking weed right next to you. People probably wouldn't like that too much.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-07 at 22:37:49
QUOTE(nimadude @ May 7 2006, 02:36 PM)
Let me correct you. Kellimus doesnt have 50 friends. The whole world isnt like you.
Yeah this is true to some extent especially when you mix it with alcohol, but when you get stoned and hallucinate and what not you may become delusional...I didnt mean amnesia.
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And I still stick to the fact that no one (Even your arrogent self) has 50 friends. Maybe on the internet, but even then.

And you don't hallucinate on Marijuanna unless it's laced. It's possible to have an Auditory Hallucination, but that's the EXTENT.

QUOTE(HolySin @ May 7 2006, 03:05 PM)
If people want to waste their lives on marijuana, let them. I just don't want to see some idiot who just took a puff on the road.
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Haven't you read ANYTHING the supporters have even said? Legalize it and control it THE SAME WAY as Alcohol. Don't you read?

QUOTE(Kenoli @ May 7 2006, 04:03 PM)
As long as we're not required to use it, who cares! tongue.gif (actually, a lot of people do, but that's not the point)

One problem you'd see is people smoking it in public places. Imagine you're sitting there in the station, waiting for a train, getting high because of some guy smoking weed right next to you. People probably wouldn't like that too much.
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It would take a room full of smoke (Hotbox) to even get a tint of a Contact High. So there goes your argument.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-05-07 at 22:40:38
QUOTE(Kellimus @ May 7 2006, 08:37 PM)
Haven't you read ANYTHING the supporters have even said?  Legalize it and control it THE SAME WAY as Alcohol.  Don't you read?
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Yes, I did read what the supporters have said, I'm pretty much agreeing with them. Notice the similarity?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2006-05-07 at 22:53:50
Why don't we just freaking tax it and earn tons of money?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lord_RexJr on 2006-05-07 at 23:00:12
QUOTE(l)ark_13 @ May 7 2006, 04:02 PM)
Marijuana doesn't make you hallucinate.  It changes your state of mind, like alcohol, or any other drug (eg. cocain, morphine, cafine, ecstacy, etc..)
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uh.. i wouldnt be sure cuz i smoked it and i started to see scooby doo smoke some with me..

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Mr.Camo @ May 7 2006, 08:53 PM)
Why don't we just freaking tax it and earn tons of money?
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money or the people of your country?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-07 at 23:19:33
QUOTE(Lord_RexJr @ May 7 2006, 07:59 PM)
uh.. i wouldnt be sure cuz i smoked it and i started to see scooby doo smoke some with me..

ADDITION:
money or the people of your country?
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You're 12. I will not believe anything you say because it's most likely for attention and spam.

And he means for the country.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-08 at 14:49:17
Speaking as a person who hasn't used tobacco, I know this:

[-] Marijuana is not hallucinative, this has been established.

[-] Marijuana still makes you high though, decreasing vehicle operation capacity in the same manner as alcohol.

[-] Marijuana can be used to help ease the nausea and apetite patients with some forms of cancer.

[-] Marijuana is far less addictive than tobacco.

[-] Users of marijuana are much, much less likely to intentionally commit crimes while under the influence of the drug than users of cocaine, crystal meth and possibly alcohol.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarK on 2006-05-08 at 14:56:38
Ok.. I have seen some shows where they have tested ppl who smoke marijuana regulary, how they drive while their high. And there are usualy no problems.. Also marijuana is used as medicine in some places.. Thats one of the reasons its legal in Holland.. But well there is realy no reason not to legalize it.. It would help to fight some drug traffick.. And countries could make money off of it, tax it that is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-08 at 18:28:26
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ May 8 2006, 11:48 AM)
Speaking as a person who hasn't used tobacco, I know this:

[-] Marijuana is not hallucinative, this has been established.

[-] Marijuana still makes you high though, decreasing vehicle operation capacity in the same manner as alcohol.

[-] Marijuana can be used to help ease the nausea and apetite patients with some forms of cancer.

[-] Marijuana is far less addictive than tobacco.

[-] Users of marijuana are much, much less likely to intentionally commit crimes while under the influence of the drug than users of cocaine, crystal meth and possibly alcohol.
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It does make you hallucinate if enough is used. Auditory hallucinations that is.

Actually, no. I've driven both high and drunk, and being high and driving is much, much, much, much easier than driving drunk.

True.

And again, true.

And another true.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-05-08 at 19:02:16
Those are pretty much the reasons I have letting it be legalized. However, people do have slower reaction when they drive high. Luckily though, they tend to drive slower, later at night, or on less populated roads.

Hopefully though, lunatics don't look at this as a chance to try to legalize PCP or acid. PCP makes you feel invincible and about ten people would be needed to take you down. Acid scares me only because of a man who took acid, thought he was a banana, and then skinned himself cause he was trying to peel himself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-05-08 at 19:34:20
Yeah, marijuana is not the drug people should be fighting against. It is not the cause of drug realted violences or problems. The hard chemicals such as PCP, crystal meth, cocain; they're all responsible for the addicts who steal from and assault others.

Acid sounds scary... I still wanna try it lol
One guy on PCP thought a monster was after him in his appartment, so he jumped out the window and killed himself because he thought the window was a door to the appartment across the street...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-08 at 20:28:12
PCP or Phencyclidine, is a horrid psychoactive drug.

Meth or d-N-methylamphetamine, is even more horrid

Acid/LSD or d-lysergic acid diethylamide is considered bad, but in my opinion, it's not bad.

Legalize pot.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-08 at 22:58:20
Yea! Our country is at an all time low and we need to get a little high.
/sarcasm
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-05-09 at 01:02:15
QUOTE(Kellimus @ May 8 2006, 06:27 PM)
PCP or Phencyclidine, is a horrid psychoactive drug.

Meth or d-N-methylamphetamine, is even more horrid

Acid/LSD or d-lysergic acid diethylamide is considered bad, but in my opinion, it's not bad.

Legalize pot.
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PCP and meth scare me, but heck, some acid is fun with a friend. Even better yet, baby sitting a friend while he takes acid. He started complaining about a leprachaun in the oven.

As far as meth goes, check this out
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-09 at 07:02:26
QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ May 8 2006, 09:57 PM)
Yea! Our country is at an all time low and we need to get a little high.
/sarcasm
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So, Chris. Why aren't you out there saying tobacco and alcohol should be illegal if you say this?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Apocalypse_18 on 2006-05-09 at 22:12:42
Come on.

I don't believe in the logic of drugs.
Why in the blue hell would you want to legalize something that ****s up your body?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-05-09 at 22:40:23
QUOTE(Kellimus @ May 9 2006, 12:27 AM)
Legalize pot.
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Probably the biggest reason is if pot was legalized then people would want other drugs legalized. Pot in my opinion isn't bad, it just leads to bad things such as Cocaine, Crystal Meth, X, etc. I personally use pot when I'm feeling really bad(which isnt too often). The best thing about pot would be the munchies...Damn I love eating when I'm high.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-05-09 at 22:40:51
Because there are benefits to marijuana. Also it's just fun. Ever heard of free will?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-05-09 at 22:42:54
QUOTE(Apocalypse_18 @ May 10 2006, 02:12 AM)
Come on.

I don't believe in the logic of drugs.
Why in the blue hell would you want to legalize something that ****s up your body?
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Getting high from pot is almost like getting drunk with alchol. Your just more in control when your high and get the munchies. When your drunk your just like "YO DOWG THIS IS AWESOME!" then like 30 mins later your eather still drunk, puking your guts out, or already passed out somewhere.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Apocalypse_18 on 2006-05-09 at 22:52:42
I figured there'd be an uproar over me saying that.

Free will? You have every right to it. Generally, people's "free will" leads them to illegal actions. Because it's "fun" as you so aptly put it.

But say you're part of the governement. You'd likely think that there're less benefits than downfalls of marijuana.

Why would you want to legalize it for a bunch of teenagers (or for those perhaps a bit older)?

Sure marijuana may have it's ebenfits, but there's too many poeple who use it for the wrong reasons.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-05-09 at 22:53:49
Also, you have to look at it through a real perspective. Exactly how many deaths truly are marijuana related? Not that many. A lot of the statistics about the deaths include any old person that smokes. They could have died from smoking, but more than likely, they died from old age. It's mainly the people who excessively use the drugs that have serious problems. People who use drugs every once in a while won't be as healthy as the normal being, but chances are, they won't die from the drug.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Apocalypse_18 on 2006-05-09 at 22:56:58
Right. I'd agree to that, Marijuana doesn't cause many deathes. Though it leads to death (related things that cause it) if the person abuses it extremely.

That still wouldn't give higher-ups the ideas to legalize it IMO.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-05-09 at 22:57:52
Didn't you read before? Treat it like alcohol. Does it really make a difference though? Teenagers will continue to find ways to get their hands on drugs. Might as well let them experience it and give them more choice. Personally, I don't think there should be age restrictions. Why? Look at Europe. Many kids there regularly have a bit of wine with their dinner, it's a part of their culture. Yet, they have less drug abuse. Since it's like a goal for teenagers to turn twenty-one and drink their hearts out, or sneak it as to act rebellious, there is more drug abuse in America than most other countries in the world.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Apocalypse_18 on 2006-05-09 at 23:00:52
Ok.

So why would you make it easy for them?

I think it would be better for them to see the potential risks and concequences or it before they decide to do it. Of course you'd treat it like alcohol, but some people are jsut plain foolish and take it in excessive amounts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-05-09 at 23:08:40
Legalizing marijuana wouldn't really do much if you think about it reasonably.

People who were smoking it before it wasn't legalized would continue. People who haven't might try it. People who were against will stay that way.

Things like driving while high will be enforced by laws, exactly like driving while drunk (its not like its not done anyways).

People getting high in the streets is an obsurd suggestion. Its like saying people in the streets should get a buzz --or even addicted-- to cigarettes.

Alcohol and nicotine are drugs, and they've been legalized by the government already. I think that even the notion of the country to debate weather or not to legalize marijuana shows that they are becoming more aware of its meakness once believed "evilness".

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So why would you make it easy for them?

The whole idea of doing drugs is the fact that its illegal, rebellious. If it wasn't, kids would smoke their hearts out, get bored of it because they didn't have to use any thought of how to do it, and just stop.

Its like when you turn 21, you go drinking until you cant for like a good 3 months. By your reasoning people 21 and older should be alcoholics, but they're not because drinking got old. Its just not as fun anymore.
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