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Doesn't seem really possible scientifically.

Plus, even if god existed, I doubt he would be as we imagine him. How do people know about him and what he wants? Seem to me as if the people don't really know anything about him, what if every religion has god all wrong? And almost every religion is convinced that they are the ones who know who and what god is. That probably means the others are wrong. Which means that the first one could easily be wrong as well.

Because I find it infinitely more plausible that the current universe and its contents exist due to its continued expansion since the 'Big Bang', or whatever other explosive phenomena may have occurred, than everything just being created by an entity who apparently created himself.

Also, I prefer bringing up myself and developing my own doctrines and ideas rather than being molded into a slave to a leather-bound tome of parables.

i am cause this so called "god" can't exist. he makes no scense.

think about it. god says he'll forgive us for our sins. he also says if you sin you go to hell. now, if we are forgiven, how can people go to hell?

and if he really wants us to belive in him, why did he make us so we can't comprehend him?

i want hard proof god exists. not the word of people, rock solid evidense.

Well, you should probably fix your grammar before saying he doesn't make any sense. You also don't state your reasoning; stating an opinon is fine. I'm not asking for that; I already know it. I'm asking for why you have that kind of an opinion.

A christian god says that. I'm saying a god in general. I don't care what a religion says, I want to know strictly why you think a god (not something defined by a religious group) cannot exist.

If hard proof is required for everything, then science and mathematics are useless. Both have literally thousands of assumptions with no proofs. Yet, we follow blindly with these postulates and come up with theories that use them to support it.

If you're going to follow your own logic, are you going to reject science and mathematics as well?

think about it. god says he'll forgive us for our sins. he also says if you sin you go to hell. now, if we are forgiven, how can people go to hell?

Although more personal than the other questions addressed here, it is asked often enough that it really merits some sort of answer.

I was not always an atheist. Although my parents did not raise me to be religious, they also did not raise me to be an atheist. However, when I was in school, I was invited by a classmate to start attending a Christian church, and I did so. My parents did not attend with me, but they also did not discourage me. On the contrary, they did whatever was necessary to help me attend and participate in the church’s youth activities.

Over time my interest in the church waned somewhat, but at no point did I ever actually stop being a Christian or believing in basic Christian doctrines. ndeed, my interest in religion itself actually grew, and when I began to take classes at the University of Pennsylvania, I immediately signed up for courses dealing with religious history.

Through these courses, I acquired a perspective on religion which was both deeper (I learned more about Christianity in my classes than I did in my church) and broader (I learned a great deal about a number of non-Christian religions and non-orthodox Christian groups). As a consequence, I began to lose the belief that Christianity was the One True Religion.

In its place, I came to believe that Christianity was a valid religion, but perhaps one which had been perverted over time through human actions. In addition, I came to believe that other religious faiths were also equally valid alongside Christianity. With some exceptions, I did not believe that any particular religion was more True or More Valid than any other. Because of this, I felt that I was unable to actually adopt any religion as my own; instead, I simply retained my belief in God and sought to consider which particular religious doctrines (aside from basic theism) could be counted as reasonable and worth holding to.

However, I never got very far in that quest. As I continued to take classes in religion, history, and philosophy — both in America and abroad — the premise that a god existed came to seem less and less credible. Indeed, over time I grew to regard it as being just as untenable as my earlier assumption that Christianity was the One True Religion.

When I took a closer look at common arguments for the existence of God, they no longer looked very sound and no longer justified a rational belief. When I took a closer look at common arguments for the nonexistence of God, they looked much more sound than I had assumed, and justified a disbelief in the existence of the sort of god I believed in and which tended to be claimed by most monotheistic religions.

I could continue to strip away from God attributes which I could not justify, but the further that went, the more empty the concept of God would become. What’s the point of believing in an empty and meaningless God? I could try ascribing attributes to God which seemed reasonable and which might evade the arguments against the existence of God — and indeed I did just that. However, in retrospect I found that those were simply the attributes which I personally valued. I was doing nothing different from what theologians and religious leaders had done for millennia, assuming that if God existed, then God must value the same things I valued. What made me right and them wrong?

Nothing. Nothing at all.

Granted, it was possible that I could be right — but there was no reason to think that I was. I could pick attributes out of a hat and stand just as much chance of success. The fact of the matter is, I was desperately trying to salvage my personal faith in God by taking away from the concept all of the attributes I didn’t like and fill the concept with attributes I did like. There was no reason for this except to salvage faith. There was no reason for the attributes, except that I liked them — and this meant that there was simply no basis for me to argue that this new God, created in my own image, was any more reasonable and any more likely to exist than any of the god-concepts I had rejected.

In the end, it seemed better to set aside this creative effort in favor of further learning and study. However, greater attention to the topic of theism and God led to an even further weakening of my faith. Gradually, without my really realizing it, my faith was simply evaporating. At some point, I turned around and realized that lacking any good reason to believe in any gods, my belief had completely disappeared.

So, in the end, my road to atheism was through education about religion and philosophy — the more I learned about the two subjects, the less tenable both religion and theism became for me. My actual and current disbelief in the existence of any gods is based upon the fact that I simply lack any good reasons to believe in any gods. Without good reasons, belief for me is impossible.

ok my opinion is stated there and i tell you why. its physicaly impossible. i want hard evidense. not word from other people.

ok a god can't exist because it's physicaly impossible. if a said "god" exists, then how is it possible for him to always have been there? idk how else to explain that its impossible other that it compltetly conterdicts physics.

i didn't say that. math is a system we use to orgenize and keep things in order. its abstract but it makes scense.

If a line segment intersects two straight lines forming two interior angles on the same side that sum to less than two right angles, then the two lines, if extended indefinitely, meet on that side on which the angles sum to less than two right angles.

science is part of hard proof.

take the universe for example. we know it is very large. we created the big bang theory because it could have happend. it's a possible way of the formation of the universe. it can physicaly happen.

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Because I find it infinitely more plausible that the current universe and its contents exist due to its continued expansion since the 'Big Bang', or whatever other explosive phenomena may have occurred, than everything just being created by an entity who apparently created himself. Also, I prefer bringing up myself and developing my own doctrines and ideas rather than being molded into a slave to a leather-bound tome of parables.
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I'm an atheist because I don't want to devote a part of my life to something that's not even real. I'm not going to provide any "logic", because I'm awesome.
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Last I checked, you weren't forgiven automatically. You had to be sorry and want forgiveness.

But yeah, as a Christian I'm going to agree the afterlife isn't one of the strongest or most logical doctrines of the church.
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This [insert my quote here] contradicts your other points. You cannot state your opinion on a god that is based off of something then argue that he might be something else. In either case, you haven't actually given me reason why you're an atheist beside that it "doesn't seem ... possible".

Not everything that is scientifically proven is accurate. Science has been wrong on occasion. So to justify why you do not believe in God with the excuse that he cannot be scientifically proven, is rather close minded..

Because every idealology is simply people looking for an answer.