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Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Dead_One on 2005-08-23 at 18:35:35
QUOTE(Tavrobel @ Aug 23 2005, 04:29 PM)
Not sure.  Probably.  There's also a question as to whether they will show up anyway.
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Dl the stupid replay...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 19:06:06
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Dl the stupid replay...


I tested, and I even said so, you idiot, the next damn post.

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I just tested it. The answer is yes, they can be preplaced. AND they show up.


Try reading what people post.

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The only problems I see are hackers and idiots who can't get over EUD's. The thing about ITs is probably a mistake that will be fixed.


It's not a wrong think to think that they will fix it. That's probably what they will do.

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Patch 1.13e

We have shot Deathknight, Patches will no longer be needed.


What about the people that make hacks? And DK wasn't in any way a reason for pre-1.13.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Atreyu) on 2005-08-23 at 19:14:43
hey does this mean we cant make infested terrans anymore??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-08-23 at 19:19:18
Infested Terrans are NOT glitched.

Only the Infested Command Center was bugged, so it can't build units due to the fact its Create Unit command was removed.

QUOTE(Demaris @ Aug 23 2005, 03:04 PM)
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My prediction:
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Patch 1.13e

We have shot Deathknight, Patches will no longer be needed.


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ROFL.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-08-23 at 19:27:26
"Patch 1.13f - Fixed a bug involving users coming back to life"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-08-23 at 19:43:19
QUOTE(Demaris @ Aug 23 2005, 03:04 PM)

My prediction:

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Patch 1.13e

We have shot Deathknight, Patches will no longer be needed.


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Haha.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Case_in_point on 2005-08-23 at 19:54:23
After skipping through like 3 worthless pages of debating over Infested Terrans, that is one of the funniest things I've seen on Staredit.

Really though, why don't they just pay Deathknight to find all this stuff for them? Imagine if he had discovered EUDs for them and they patched it before we even knew, it would have saved a lot of people some grief happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-08-23 at 20:32:36
The 1.13 series has really done a lot.

No more character crash.
No more build anywhere.
No more muta morph.
No more security holes in maps.
No more floating drone hack.
No more zerg stack.

I love it. Everyone else doesn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2005-08-23 at 20:36:54
Its good how your helping blizzard and making starcraft safer from virus,s/hacks but no matter what whether you do something good/bad people will ALWAYS find some way to complain tongue.gif

ADDITION: I think everyone here yelling at you for causing the Infested Terrans glitch or yelling at blizzard is a idiot cause it was a accident that anyone couldve made just be glad that there wasnt any other problems created
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SacredElf on 2005-08-23 at 20:49:43
they might test the patch before releasin dont u think terrain =D??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 20:55:31
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hey does this mean we cant make infested terrans anymore??


WOW. Here is the portrait of a person that doesn't read posts by people. Even when it will save them alot of time, and the posters time as well. I should make a post that's all about the sins of being stupid. Not ignorant, or challenged, but stupid.

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After skipping through like 3 worthless pages of debating over Infested Terrans, that is one of the funniest things I've seen on Staredit.

Really though, why don't they just pay Deathknight to find all this stuff for them? Imagine if he had discovered EUDs for them and they patched it before we even knew, it would have saved a lot of people some grief


Maybe. That's his choice, I guess.

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Its good how your helping blizzard and making starcraft safer from virus,s/hacks but no matter what whether you do something good/bad people will ALWAYS find some way to complain

ADDITION: I think everyone here yelling at you for causing the Infested Terrans glitch or yelling at blizzard is a idiot cause it was a accident that anyone couldve made just be glad that there wasnt any other problems created


YES! Listen to this person!

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they might test the patch before releasin dont u think terrain =D??


It's likely.

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The 1.13 series has really done a lot.

No more character crash.
No more build anywhere.
No more muta morph.
No more security holes in maps.
No more floating drone hack.
No more zerg stack.

I love it. Everyone else doesn't.


I love it too. It's hilarious. Funnier than Wedding Crashers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 21:04:44

Watch yourself Deathknight, they are coming for you.

i also like the hack prevention, even if it does mean giving up EUDs. After all i can still play with them on a LAN or that program in the DLDB that lets you connect through the internet and it works similiar to a LAN.

Was it really that funny?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:05:38
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Watch yourself Deathknight, they are coming for you.

i also like the hack prevention, even if it does mean giving up EUDs. After all i can still play with them on a LAN or that program in the DLDB that lets you connect through the internet and it works similiar to a LAN.

Was it really that funny?


To each his own opinion I guess. But Wedding Crashers WAS funny. Definitely worth watching,
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:06:25
QUOTE(Deathknight @ Aug 23 2005, 07:32 PM)
The 1.13 series has really done a lot.

No more character crash.
No more build anywhere.
No more muta morph.
No more security holes in maps.
No more floating drone hack.
No more zerg stack.

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I'm happy with it. At first I wasn't happy becuase I wanted blizzard to do more and fix the secuity holes while keeping EUDs intact, but then I realized that they were doing as much as they can as fast as they can already.

The only thing I'm not happy about is Yoshi taking down EUD enabler (which can still be easily remade). It's a third party program, protecting newbs from viruses (becuase they'll never hear about it, it won't become popular), and protecting blizzard from legal liability.

But my positions have been changing a lot lately, so try and change my possision about that.

CLARIFICATION: What I mean is that I used to be strongly anti 1.13 series, now I'm pro 1.13 series and pro blizzard. But most people don't realize that yet though.
I would update my possition on the battle net forums, but I lost my CD key at camp.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 21:08:34


Here is another patch prediction:


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Patch 1.13f

Hackers will be tracked down and shot. Twice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:08:48
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The only thing I'm not happy about is Yoshi taking down EUD enabler (which can still be easily remade). It's a third party program, protecting newbs from viruses (becuase they'll never hear about it, it won't become popular), and protecting blizzard from legal liability.


You're wrong about that.

EUD's were patched for a reason. No point in trying to enable them closedeyes.gif

Plus it makes the original problem worse, not only do Mac users crash, people who don't have EUDenabler crash! LOL!

It's a 3rd party program, which makes it even worse because now Blizzard can BAN you for using it. Not only that, it doesn't protect you from viruses, one of the reasons Yoshi didn't support in the first place is that it allowed you to get viruses. Not sure about Heimdal's whole "whitelisting" thing though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 21:10:29

If EUDs even have the possibilty to open viruses and someone discovers it before we (by we i mean the mappers who actually use it) do and use it to make a virus, then it would be catastrophic. better safe than sorry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:10:35
About what?
That it protects blizzard from legal liability? That it can be easily remade? That it won't become popular? That is isn't possible to make a safe verson of it?

Clarify and give exspanations, it's going to take some good debating to make me switch positions (again).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:10:46
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I'm happy with it. At first I wasn't happy becuase I wanted blizzard to do more and fix the secuity holes while keeping EUDs intact, but then I realized that they were doing as much as they can as fast as they can already.

The only thing I'm not happy about is Yoshi taking down EUD enabler (which can still be easily remade). It's a third party program, protecting newbs from viruses (becuase they'll never hear about it, it won't become popular), and protecting blizzard from legal liability.

But my positions have been changing a lot lately, so try and change my possision about that.


Yeah, Blizzard is responsible for us, if we don't use hacks. We might as well not bug them anymore than we have to. Yes, EUDEnabler can be fixed for the newest patch, but in the last threads (Temporary Bans for EUDEnabler), it has been established that Blizzard does not want us to use EUDs, whether we know the reason (viruses could be transfered), or whether Blizzard has another reason (Umm, as far as I know, it could be something even worse than virus). As for the program itself, Heimdal says in his thread about it (Enable EUDs again), he does state it is possible to transmit malicious code through this program. No one is ever completely safe from viruses. But using hacks does void Blizzard of any legal responsibility.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:12:19
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But using hacks does void Blizzard of any legal responsibility.


But it gives them a reason to ban you tongue.gif Oh nvm, Tavrobel, you can use EUDenabler as much as you want. Tell Blizzard you use it too please.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:15:00
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You're wrong about that.

EUD's were patched for a reason. No point in trying to enable them 

Plus it makes the original problem worse, not only do Mac users crash, people who don't have EUDenabler crash! LOL!


They drop, but that's still the same problem. Something goes wrong.

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Here is another patch prediction:

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Patch 1.13f

Hackers will be tracked down and shot. Twice.


Correction. Hackers will be shot, then sued. Survivors will be shot, sent to jail, and sued again for living.

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If EUDs even have the possibilty to open viruses and someone discovers it before we (by we i mean the mappers who actually use it) do and use it to make a virus, then it would be catastrophic. better safe than sorry.


At this point EUDs are dead. People need to move on, and at least we still ahve EUD conditions.

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About what?
That it protects blizzard from legal liability? That it can be easily remade? That it won't become popular? That is isn't possible to make a safe verson of it?

Clarify and give exspanations, it's going to take some good debating to make me switch positions (again).


If we hack, it violates the EULA. If we violate EULA, that voids Blizzard of responsibility for the hacker and gives them power of attorney.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:15:43
Oh you edited. Ok, I think there is a point in trying to enable them.
They are fun, and although anyone who doesn't has EUD capacity (enabler + windows) crashes.
I think it can be made safe, but if it isn't it won't be popular enough for people to send virues through with it, and people will only enable it when they want to play EUD maps with their friends.
I'm still waiting for a blizz rep to condem EUD enabler, and even if they are banning people I don't think the clensing will last. Tons of people use good 3rdPP (PP, EUD enabler) as well as hacks and live with it a lot. If agent_god isn't banned yet, then I don't think blizzard is activly tracking hackers, and I think that you will be safe if you use the enabler as long as you wait a month or so.

EDIT: Essentially, I don't see how a safe EUD enabler is worse then penguin plug.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 21:16:54

i think that if you want to sit around and write a program that lets other idiots corrupt one of the best games ever, then i'll see you in hell. Tazzy will be waiting as well.
(If you can't tell i'm talking about hacks)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:17:14
EUD's are dead, and dumb. Get over them is thx smile.gif


The way I see it, Blizzard has laid down the law and PATCHED euds, trying to enable them is just dumb. Going against Blizzard makes you unloyal. Being unloyal is bad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:19:56
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But it gives them a reason to ban you  Oh nvm, Tavrobel, you can use EUDenabler as much as you want. Tell Blizzard you use it too please.


Okay, why ban me? We are on the same side. And I don't use it anymore, did you not notice the patch? tongue.gif But back on the subject...

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They are fun, and although anyone who doesn't has EUD capacity (enabler + windows) crashes.
I think it can be made safe, but if it isn't it won't be popular enough for people to send virues through with it, and people will only enable it when they want to play EUD maps with their friends.


Where there is a will there is a way. Popularity has nothing to do with changing the minds of the demented, and hack addicted. But nothing is ever 100% safe, except for not using it at all.

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I'm still waiting for a blizz rep to condem EUD enabler, but I don't think the clensing will last. Tons of people use good 3PP (PP, EUD enabler) as well as hacks. If agent_god isn't banned yet, then I don't think blizzard is activly tracking hackers, and I think that you will be safe if you use the enabler as long as you wait a month or so.


Blizzard won't come out and openly say anything. To do so would be a security risk. And they usually don't actively track hackers; they rely on thier players to report hacks on their own so they can do something about it. (Anti-Piracy Team) And as for being safe, no one is ever completely safe. Not even EUDEnabler users. In a recent thread, it did say about some people being banned because of it.
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