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WTF does chess have to do with anything?! u were just waiting to put that in there werent u?! u ing nerd.
Umm first of all, are u a ing literature teacher?! who gives a if i typo?! "OOO LOOKE MONMY! ID TIPOEN!" Typos dont show my intelligence. Im just so god damn angry at u mother ing wannabe americans that diss ur own country at every turn! I gave my opinion and u talkin like i said the world is triangle....its a free country right?! so im allowed to make my opinon no matter how dumb u think it is. Oh and about civilians dying: IN EVERY WAR INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE! IN EVERY WAR CHILDREN DIE! NO WAR GOES THE WAY U PLAN! THERE ARE NO "GOOD" WARS! Get that in yer god damn heads mother ers. U support kerry yet u know nothing about him?! U say "anyone but bush 2004" You and everyo ne here knows wed all regret that...That just shows ur stupidity that u follow everything the news or yer momies and dadies tell u. Oh dont let me get on celebrities. Did u in see wut happened to kerry's campaign?! he had celebs every god damn place he went! He had em talking like they were special, like they knew wtf they were talking about, trying to sway american people with their "popularity" Well u know wut?! many of my favorite actors and musicians bashed bush and I jus said "thats their opinion. they just need to stfu and let the politicians handle this" U god damn athiest mother ers make me sick! Oh and yes DRAFTEES are horrible choices to fight a war. If u dont know that then look back at history and why our military became a professional one. It was after VIETNAM. reply to this and show how dumb u are oh and btw: U GOT SERVED.....AGAIN

ADDITION: i bet i get warnings for this bull

Ok, my reply is simple. I'm not an American, but I do live here and fully support what it's founding fathers wanted. However, that is not what Bush is doing.

To me, Bush is a grade-"A" idiot. He knows nothing about economy, nothing about finances, nothing about wars, nothing about terrorism, and nothing about english. Much like you. Of course, since he is so easily related to you, of course you would like him. I should have saw that too!

I don't know if I should laugh at your stupidity, or laugh when you get blown up. I think I'll do both.

Ah, your quote is intersting. You obviously would not know what I'm talking about since you don't play chess and think it's a "nerd" thing. Want to know something? It's not. It's not a simple game. I could kick your ass in chess in every game we play. Want to know why? Not because I'm "better", but because it requires a much greater knowledge, far more than you think it does.

Err.. can we try not to flame here?

Why are we even talking about this. It's useless; it's not like all this talking will magically make kerry president. So if u dont like Bush, then im sorry, but you're going to have to deal with him for another 4 years. And yes, i think everyone here is fully aware of all the reasonings of why Kerry would be better or worse so we dont need to be repeating ourselves.

im dont just had to get all the s and s and es and s and s and es....oh i alrdy said that

SnIpA: "A duh hey George!"
GWB: "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"
SnIpA: " DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
GWB: "DAAAAAAAAAAAH"
SnIpA: "A duh...hey George!"

ya im a complete idiot cause i can show an intelligent opinion while u just all day OK! oh and about my typoin......ill try HARDER TO TYPO...jus to piss u off! Ooops...i gtg cause im a dumbass and got to go rob a store with my ghetto friends and then mess up a few mailboxes with my redneck friends and then maybe ill go down ti mcdonalds so they can turn me away for droppin outa school!

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM an imbosile!!!!!!

Is that how dumb i sound? Yes? Good.

ADDITION: btw about yer chess comment. I have played chess and i know how to play chess, its a boring game and gets u nowhere in life except maybe a way to figure out how to take out a queen with a rook......wait....wut?

I would kindly ask you to not make fun of chess. I do not want to spam with some crappy post but anyone who makes fun of chess to me is the same is saying "god is retarded" towards a religious person. Such actions on this subject will not be tolerated by me. You have officially lost all my respect. I hope you have a nice day.


If you are wondering why Chess means a lot to me, it is the first game which I have gotten into and with it, received new friends. But the reason why it is significant is because I recently moved and knew no one. One of the people greatly boosted my confidence in everything through chess and from that, it has become my life.

What may seem contridicting is that I say don't say bad about chess because it's like saying god is bad to a religious person. I am, however, able to justfy this because Snipa has failed to provide evidence of anything and only says chess sucks. Saying "god sucks" is only proving your stupdity in arguing if no evidence is provided, however, providing evidence that chess sucks is impossible because, as we should know, chess is labeled as "The King of Games". It has survived longer than any game in history and will continue because of it's popularity. While not great in America, it's is very strong in Europe, espcially Russia.

i couldnt give a damn how much respect u lost for me. WHO THE HELL ARE U?! Why should i want yer ing respect?! ooooo chess is like god to u? And u called me a dumbass? someones been sniffin a little too much axe deoderant or somethin. it smells good but u dont have to stick it up yer nose...

i'm sorry, they only teach me so much about wars Death, and i was trying to compare what you said about Bush not keeping his word to something similar, imagine this,

Kerry = Bush,
side = word,

Kerry cannot stay on a side,
like,
Bush cannot keep his word,
(according to you)

[quote=CheeZe(U),Dec 2 2004, 04:33 AM]
What are you protecting us from? Certaintly not terrorism since Saddam's group had no affliation with the attacks on United States. Not Osama because he said he was not our objective. Hmm....
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Even if Saddam didn't directly attack us doesn't mean he isn't affiliated with the terrorist orginazation that did? By taking Saddam out we weaken the terrorists resources.

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Never the less. They still represent ur country, including those that made those horrible stuff 2 POW's in jails located in Iraq![QUOTE]

Ya i agree with you there. That was horrible and it made us look really bad.


[/QUOTE]Protect ur country!?! From what? A bunch of stupid brainwashed iraquis that followed their leader? Don't make me laugh! [QUOTE]

So you're saying the iraquis aren't dangerous?

[/QUOTE]U on the other hand seem 2 have been brainwashed urself... [QUOTE]

K? Just because my beliefs are different from yours, i've been brainwashed? Because I think Bush is awesome, i've been brainwashed?


Oh and I didn't read most of the other posts. Freakin essays lol =p.

[QUOTE]BTW, America was BARELY involved in either of the World Wars.[/QUOTE]

k? We totally dominated in WW2. Haven't you seen all those movies about Easy company or w/e. They aren't fictional movies O_o. And hello Japan.

Thats the thing! He had no affliation wit the terrorists, though I will admit he has done bad things.

uh..couldn't tell who typed what for a while lol


You should review your Wars. United States didn't dominate, they used a powerful weapon that the world was creating and showed it's power, which ultimatly stopped Japan from fighting. Germany gave up long before that.

Don't base your stuff off movies either

www.wikipedia.org for all your needs.

I would classify that as domination?



Ya but those movies show what Easy company did. Like that band of brothers series. I'm sure alot of it is exagerated but they kick some ass.



Ya still haven't quite figured out the quote thing yet =p

No, you simply proved a point. You didn't "dominate" anyone.

Example: Hitler "dominated" the jews.

ROFLMFAO! PearS, you just made my day. Holy that was so funny.


That's like saying he IS affiliated with the Sept. 11th attack. Stereotyping, typical brainwashed American.


That's kind of like saying "all Iraqis are dangerous". Another typical brainwashed low-education racist American.


"Brainwashed" as in you don't have your own opinion and will believe anything that Bush tells the media to show.


What the is "Easy company"? Anyway, the United States joined near the end of WWII, and were only involved with Japan. Japan and the United States aren't the WORLD. There were more countries involved in Europe.


Exagerated isn't even the word for it... I bet they were so exagerated that it would fall under "fiction".

No. Thats not entirely true, No one knows whether Saddam is affiliated with terrorists or not. That is not the issue anyways, the issue was, is Saddam a bad man or a good man. Obviously he is a bad man, and a threat to the U.S so, America took him out.



You are putting words in his mouth. When you say that you are like saying that you are retarded...I will only flame people when they percieve they are allowed to flame others.



Apparently, you have not done your homework. President Bush does not tell the media to say anything. Its called freedom of speech, President Bush has no power over what the media produces. Everything that you see in the media is based on the opinions of that company/author.

Its interesting you brought up the media into this anyways; generally because the media usually slides more for being democratic. The evidence in this is only proven by how they report on the war in IRAQ -- never positive, always negative -- to keep up with their underlining theme "The war in iraq is not a good thing, and President Bush should not be president"



Again, you obviously didn't do you homework or know the historical facts about WWII. America did in fact help in Europe, not just Japan, as you claim. America was the key for winning the war in Europe.



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This is my first post on this site, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Pete and I am currently a senior in Highschool. My battle.net name is Prologic, I have recently came from USWEST to USEAST in search for a bright future in a map making clan.

No. Thats not entirely true, No one knows whether Saddam is affiliated with terrorists or not. That is not the issue anyways, the issue was, is Saddam a bad man or a good man. Obviously he is a bad man, and a threat to the U.S so, America took him out.
I'm a threat to America potentially. Why not take me out? My friend is one of the best hackers I know, he is also a threat to America potentially. Why not take him out. Saddam was a threat to America potentially, why did you take him out and spend so much resources on him?

Apparently, you have not done your homework. President Bush does not tell the media to say anything. Its called freedom of speech, President Bush has no power over what the media produces. Everything that you see in the media is based on the opinions of that company/author.
Yeah, and they're closely related to Bush so they lie a lot.


Its interesting you brought up the media into this anyways; generally because the media usually slides more for being democratic. The evidence in this is only proven by how they report on the war in IRAQ -- never positive, always negative -- to keep up with their underlining theme "The war in iraq is not a good thing, and President Bush should not be president"
That's not true. Saying something "generally" does something is totally wrong because of the given facts. See, you are not being liberal; the current 'facts' in the media are supporting Bush because they do not reveal the terror in Iraq.

Besides, if everything was so stereotypical, Snipa would be for Kerry.

This is my first post on this site, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Pete and I am currently a senior in Highschool. My battle.net name is Prologic, I have recently came from USWEST to USEAST in search for a bright future in a map making clan.
Hello Pete/PrOLoGiC. I am a weird person, have fun here. I know I won't. :/

You guys keep saying that I'm brainwashed and that i don't have my own opinion but to be honest everything i am saying is my opinion because i don't watch the news or anything like that. I never stated a fact. Well besides the number of soldiers who died. But that was only an estimation. And, ok all iraquis aren't dangerous but the way that guy said 'brainwashed iraquis following their leader..dont make me laugh' he was saying that the people we are fighting aren't dangerous. And by people I mean the terrorists who happen to be iraquis. Not ALL of them, just the bad ones. Thanks for the d pete.

I actually do know people who voted for those little shrubs Bush and Cheney. There aren't a lot of them, however...at least where I live.

Well it looks like YOU'RE wrong. Saddam, a bad man, sure. "America" did NOT take him out, BUSH did. You see BUSH WANTED Iraq to be involved because of his retarded oil company buisiness with Saddam and Bush's father. So he made up some lie saying that they have weapons of mass destruction or something. Weapons of mass destruction? Where? He actually was NOT a threat to the US.




No, I wasn't putting words in his mouth, he SAID that. It was in the quotes. How did I say that I was retarded? I was talking about the typical American, which I'm not.




And you can prove he doesn't tell the media what to say how?



I actually have never seen this type of headline...

Again....u say that stuff like its a fact. No one knows if Saddam had, has, or never had WMDs and no one can say bush had it out for saddam. But these ARE facts: Terrorists have been attracted to Iraq and possibly have been there for awhile. The Middle-East in general doesnt think well of westerners, be it american, british, french, or spanish. Those are facts and u cant say that many middle-easterners dont despise westerners. The mission of the Islamic religion is to get the perfect islamic state but it is obvious that these terrorists have seen it differently and instead want a perfect islamic world and the only way they can do that is kill all who oppose. I myself am not racist and i put myself in everyones shoes. I can imagine that the middle-easterners beli eve that america IS over there for oil and are accepting these terro rists into their homes because they see them as liberators. During the AmericanIndian conflicts in the colonies, indians killed men, women, and children alike. Were they called terrorists? No because they were fighting for their homeland right? Wrong. Back then the world saw that as terrorism and stupidly the american people killed off the indians because they misunderstood them. To these terrorists, they are saving their homelands. To us, they are terrorists. And there ARE good middle-easterners, many of them but some feel that they must help these terrorists because the coalition will not stay around to defeat them. In the Gulf War, The US pulled out after George H. Bush told them to fight against saddam. The iraqis listened and were betrayed. Now they dont trust anyone and people in america who say "nuke all of iraq" or "we should pull out now" arent helping at all because that is not what these iraqis need right now. But as I can see you cant change history so stop ing about it and try to see the positive or atleast find a way to fix any problems u see.

How is it possible to not know what another country is doing... or if they have wmd or not? Faulty intelligence? I highly doubt that.


Can you really base a valid opinion on nothingness? If you don't watch the news or anything like that, how can you even have an opinion? I suppose you didn't read the newspaper at all and read about all the job loss and such, either.


I just KNOW all the money that went into the war so far could have been put to a lot better use... and we aren't even done spending the cash yet. Stupid .

well all wars cost money. What did u expect us to do after sept. 11th huh? just sit there and wait for another attack? Kill Osama and that would end it? I myself would love to see osama dead but that would NOT stop the terrorism or the hate. Infact i think it would make it worse. Many of them see osama as a MLK figure more than a general or commander. Hes like a savior to them but they have their own terrorist commanders. The ones in iraq said a few months ago that they have pledged alliegence with Osama.....that means they were never osamas to control before...which means that osama or not, wed still have to fight in the ME...thats just the way it is. And yes...we could have used the money for poor families or homless families or schools. But its either those things or our family and friends over there fighting a war against an enemy that they cant identify....

Perhaps we could have learned a valuable lesson and stopped ing around with other countries... stop trying to force democracy on everyone, stop trying to force our ideology on people.
Yeah... we shouldn't have done anything except say "we're sorry for being stupid" and just let them rot in their third world countries.

We should have taken that money and applied some of it to our economy, because you should know economy means everything. Money equals power. The other part of all that money spent could have went to defense.

You can't fight a war on a country that doesn't exist. We had nothing to gain and everything to loose with this little war on terror... and we are loosing it fast.

u see it as losing but if we dont fight it we have alrdy lost...U wanted america to out and let a terrorist organization attack us and kill thousands of people but we do nothing about it.....or even worse...we appologize TO THEM. How dumb is that? If someone came up to u and shot u in the knee with a shotgun and u lost yer leg, would u APPLOGIZE to them? America does nothing but help other countries. Ive seen this written somewhere: "If your going to lose a war, make sure it is to the United States of America."

Nah... we already lost.


because we really can't do anything about it


Think about it a little harder.


9-11 wasn't as serious as getting shot in the knee and loosing your leg... maybe a finger chopped off... it can grow back though


LOL


That's because when you loose to us, we give you loads of cash after the war.
that.

I think Bush meant to attack Iran. He thought it was "ok" because he was only off by one letter.

Anyways Snipa u consistently amuse me. Your last quote " ' If your going to lose a war make sure it is to the United States.' " Ok...? I think the quote should be more like " If your in war with the United States, prepare to lose." A little less ignorant but, it still is. Even though China if they fought alone would own America. They won't attack us they would much rather trade with us.

Do you think Bush will attack the Ukraine next? If the current leader in the Ukraine wins again, because he doesn't really like the U.S. I think Bush will want to attack him because the current leader wants to ally up with the soviet union. But if the opposition candidate wins, they will have a friendly relationship with us. So Bush will probably want to go into their and kill people for no reason like he attacked Saddam for no reason. Can you say finishing daddy's war?

I bet Bush could get everyone to believe that their is no such thing as the Ozone layer. Most people would believe him... That peace of .

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Well then, why did we attack Japan? Wasn't it because of Pearl Harbor?

Thats just the way YOU see it. It may seem that Bush had alter motives, but you will never know.



We can't just sit back and let people be killed and tortured for no reason. Everyone else was too afraid to do something so we did. If you think it's not our place to help people in need then would you not help an elderly woman whos purse was just stolen? Would you not help a lost child find its mother? Would you not try to protect your mother from a man with a gun?




We help countries that are small and need help. Not ones who attack us. Jeez you are lame for saying that.



There is no more soviet union. Russia now has a democracy and they are our buddies.