Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-06-05 at 07:00:52
QUOTE(Ice_Inferno_X3 @ Jun 3 2006, 08:14 AM)
i agree with this fully...but we gotta be careful with the terrorist and stuff so i voted no comment
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Remember back then during WWII when we prisoned every single japanese in us at concentration camp because we thought all of Japanese population was a spy to us? Yea. There are no terrorists. Bush and his paid off media blinded you with false ideas...
Daddy0420: Pardon me if I didn't get what was going on. I was way too excited to comeback and notice a discussion on immigrants since I, myself, attended the rally. And my previous post was referring to your post with the funny comic guy, not the general topic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-06-05 at 07:09:26
QUOTE(7-7 @ Jun 4 2006, 11:32 AM)
I bet China will own the US if we had a war, because we are so dumb. I dont mean we as the citizens of the US. I mean president Bush is so numb in the head. He aughta be kicked! He can't rule this country. I cant wait for a new prez. I mean if we cant defeat Iraq we cant take down a big country like China. I know in terms of war we have beetin Iraq because we practically own it but what we are trying to do is get everyone in it to be on our side! Thats not going to happen. Just Kill them, if we kill an innocent bistandered, whoops get over it and just get the job done! I am not trying to be mean but this is not working. 
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Um... this wouldn't be good. By then, we, i mean as in SEN population will be seeing each other in Chinese lands because we will be at the right age to be drafted.
I agree president bush is a little numb at the head, but hey, people still approve of him although he did all the stupid stuff at middle east.
We can't kill innocent civillians. it is not them who is causing the trouble. It is the rebels who causes trouble and kills soldiers daily. The only thing we can do is hope that these ultranationalistic, ultrareligious fools can behave themselves well in about next couple of months. I say we just leave Iraq as of it is right now. The situation in Iraq is getting better after all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-06-05 at 09:53:16
the person below me is a member
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falcon_A on 2006-06-05 at 10:29:08
Nah, a regular.
the person below me is an elite.
the person below me is an elite.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-06-05 at 11:50:42
nah a regular
the person below me is an elite
the person below me is an elite
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-06-05 at 14:53:40
That was then, this is now. No one imprisons japanese people anymore in america, so don't bring it up in a discussion about now.
Bush wasn't president during WWII, I think..
Bush wasn't president during WWII, I think..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-06-05 at 15:08:19
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I ask you to prove it.
You want me to prove that God is useless to me?
The fact that I state it proves it. If God were found to not exist tomorrow it wouldn't affect my life in anyway. The same goes with if he was proven to exist; I would not change the way I live in anyway.
God has no place in my life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-06-05 at 15:14:45
We all know the death penalty on the electric chair, that "offered" a very painful death for it's victim.
1) Is it moral to kill even the worst criminal with such a method ?
2) Why do you think we (human kind) needed such a way of killing criminals ?
3) Do you think that suffering infront of the spectators is humiliating ?
4) Do you think death is enough for the convict, or he/she must die a painfully ?
5) And finally: is life behind the bars better than death ?
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August 6, 1890 saw the first ever electric execution of a human being. The history maker was William Kemmler of Buffalo, New York. Kemmler was guilty of butchering his mistress with a hatchet. A group of doctors and reporters gathered for the historic occasion. Kemmler was jolted for seventeen seconds. It failed to kill him. The embarrassed prison officials electrocuted him again for seventy seconds. Kemmler thrashed and convulsed as the electrodes seared his head and arms, filling the room with the smell of burning flesh. Some witness fainted, while others fled the room. The killing took eight minutes.
1) Is it moral to kill even the worst criminal with such a method ?
2) Why do you think we (human kind) needed such a way of killing criminals ?
3) Do you think that suffering infront of the spectators is humiliating ?
4) Do you think death is enough for the convict, or he/she must die a painfully ?
5) And finally: is life behind the bars better than death ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-06-05 at 16:06:37
There are cleaner and more efficient methods to kill someone, but still, Eye for an Eye.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-06-05 at 16:31:14
Answer this question :
Is it ok to kill a human being?
Their is your answer on the death penalty/electric chair/ ect....
Is it ok to kill a human being?
Their is your answer on the death penalty/electric chair/ ect....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-06-05 at 16:59:07
I personally don't have any opinion about the death penalty; but I am against having it be such a torturous process, like hanging or electricuting. Lethal Injection is probably the best and should be the only tool for the death penalty
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-06-05 at 17:05:56
well that was the first person to be killed using the electric chair. from then on the way of eliminating with the convicts has gotten faster and thus less painful.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-06-05 at 17:12:02
1)As long as it's justified, yeah, it's fine.
2)Because they do bad stuff?
3)Yeah, but you'll be dead before you know it. You can't really care about what people think of you when you're dead.
4)Payback's a biatch. Maybe next time you wouldn't have done the crime you did. Too bad for you, now you die painfully
5)I haven't gone to jail, I don't know, but probably.
2)Because they do bad stuff?
3)Yeah, but you'll be dead before you know it. You can't really care about what people think of you when you're dead.
4)Payback's a biatch. Maybe next time you wouldn't have done the crime you did. Too bad for you, now you die painfully
5)I haven't gone to jail, I don't know, but probably.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Toothfariy on 2006-06-05 at 17:20:01
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1) Is it moral to kill even the worst criminal with such a method ?
no, that just shouldn't be right at all that is pure torture to someone.
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2) Why do you think we (human kind) needed such a way of killing criminals ?
cause the gilotine wasnt cuttin it for them. (no pun intended)
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3) Do you think that suffering infront of the spectators is humiliating ?
well yeah, espically if they hate you. since ur about to die, it wouldn't matter to me if im humiliated, but i bet people talked about that killing for a while
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4) Do you think death is enough for the convict, or he/she must die a painfully ?
painful deaths are mean, and they just make the person suffer their last few seconds of life
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5) And finally: is life behind the bars better than death ?
i might say yes, if i knew what prision was like, then idk. u get free food, and time to screw around. wouldn't be that bad if u ask me, but that would be a waste of life,
i'd proably choose death.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cole on 2006-06-05 at 17:20:54
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Min nothing goes beyond the Universe, for the Unvierse is truly the sum of all things, energy and matter. Perhaps the known universe fits your view, that there are things "beyond" it, but beyond that is just another part of the Universe. Seriously, people, the Universe is not technically a sphere, it's a flat surface extending infinitely outwards, and the curving of space/time makes it "seem" like a sphere.
You fail to understand me.
The scope of what im talking about is not matter it is ideaology. It is unexplainable with words. Why is there anything? What I am talking about has no words to even begin to explain it.
What is the purpose of the Universe? How did it come to be? How did energy itself come to be? How did whatever the first thing come to be? What is "space" not like looking up into space but what is between me and you. I'm still not even touching on what im thinking. Going beyond all of what I just said. I give up trying to explain it.
Also for all we do know there could be 100's of billions of "universes"(redefining it as what a galaxy is to a solar system)? Why can't we see anything then?? Uhh light from other galaxies is still reaching here let a lone from another Universe.
What we cannot detect in any way we cannot know for sure.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-06-05 at 19:14:36
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That was then, this is now. No one imprisons japanese people anymore in america, so don't bring it up in a discussion about now.
Nah, we just imprison the Arabs instead.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-05 at 20:39:10
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he USA is soo powerful because we have the best goverment. We have hard working people.
We have a lot of money, I dont really know how we got all of our money to be soo powerful but with our money we have become one of the most powerful nations in the world. But if you give every person in China a gun with 3 bullets they could take over the world! Almost same idea with India!
We need a new president though
We have a lot of money, I dont really know how we got all of our money to be soo powerful but with our money we have become one of the most powerful nations in the world. But if you give every person in China a gun with 3 bullets they could take over the world! Almost same idea with India!
We need a new president though
Hard working people? No check
Best government? No check
A lot of money? Two no checks
Horrible idea to rule the world? Check
Horrible president? Check
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We don't get things from the Chinese and other countries becuase OUR companies are just based in those countries, its not like a foriegn company or government is giving us most of our stuff.
Oh yes, that's right, we just produce the material here in America, send it to China, assemble it, send it back to America, and distribute it right? That makes perfect sense, really.
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I know in terms of war we have beetin Iraq because we practically own it but what we are trying to do is get everyone in it to be on our side! Thats not going to happen. Just Kill them, if we kill an innocent bistandered, whoops get over it and just get the job done! I am not trying to be mean but this is not working. ranting.gif
Dood leik Iraq is dumb lol we rulez Iraq because they are bad terrorists LAWL! dude wtf we Pwn Iraq so why don't we just liek, Kill everyone there with liek some nukes and then there will be no more terrorists! ok so some pplz will die but there will be no more terrorists! lawl! not like that matters because we also killed the people that the terrorists oppressed! Lawl! We would kill two birdz with one stoen!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-05 at 21:14:10
I don't believe in god because:
1. If god was omnipotent, he would already know if we would sin or not, therefore hell would be obsolete.
2. This also leads to the existance of "fate", however the bible obviously doesn't side with the idea of a pre-determined destiny therefore even if I am wrong on the first part the two ideas still contradict each other.
3. Our solar system is helio-centric, which pwns god.
4. Believing in the good of the lord obviously isn't helping the starving child in Malaysia with tube-worms eating away at his innards.
5. Math tends to be correct while on the other hand magic holy powers does not.
6. I don't believe in god for the same reason that most people do believe in god, it is comfortable for me. It is much more calming to believe that at the moment of death, I will forget everything and simply not exist. That sounds much better than spending eternity with the same old fat guy with a white beard.
1. If god was omnipotent, he would already know if we would sin or not, therefore hell would be obsolete.
2. This also leads to the existance of "fate", however the bible obviously doesn't side with the idea of a pre-determined destiny therefore even if I am wrong on the first part the two ideas still contradict each other.
3. Our solar system is helio-centric, which pwns god.
4. Believing in the good of the lord obviously isn't helping the starving child in Malaysia with tube-worms eating away at his innards.
5. Math tends to be correct while on the other hand magic holy powers does not.
6. I don't believe in god for the same reason that most people do believe in god, it is comfortable for me. It is much more calming to believe that at the moment of death, I will forget everything and simply not exist. That sounds much better than spending eternity with the same old fat guy with a white beard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-05 at 21:29:16
1. yes.
2. chopping heads was too messy.
3. yes.
4. painfully.
5. no.
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N20, if you believe that we have no right to kill another human being, that justifies the use of the electric chair. If we didn't use the electric chair, the murderers would be out there murdering even more people. Therefore we would technically be killing more people than we would if we used the chairs.
Mill Army, I understand what you are getting at, but murderers shouldn't be shown mercy of all people. Murderers not only kill the victim, but cause pain for friends and family, who cares about the murderer's feelings? To hell with their feelings, it's their fault they killed. Not only this, but it also sends a message to all the other murderers out there that says in bright flashing letters: STOP KILLING, WE MEAN BUSINESS NOW.
2. chopping heads was too messy.
3. yes.
4. painfully.
5. no.
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N20, if you believe that we have no right to kill another human being, that justifies the use of the electric chair. If we didn't use the electric chair, the murderers would be out there murdering even more people. Therefore we would technically be killing more people than we would if we used the chairs.
Mill Army, I understand what you are getting at, but murderers shouldn't be shown mercy of all people. Murderers not only kill the victim, but cause pain for friends and family, who cares about the murderer's feelings? To hell with their feelings, it's their fault they killed. Not only this, but it also sends a message to all the other murderers out there that says in bright flashing letters: STOP KILLING, WE MEAN BUSINESS NOW.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-06-05 at 21:29:30
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Jun 5 2006, 08:13 PM)
I don't believe in god because:
1. If god was omnipotent, he would already know if we would sin or not, therefore hell would be obsolete.
2. This also leads to the existance of "fate", however the bible obviously doesn't side with the idea of a pre-determined destiny therefore even if I am wrong on the first part the two ideas still contradict each other.
3. Our solar system is helio-centric, which pwns god.
4. Believing in the good of the lord obviously isn't helping the starving child in Malaysia with tube-worms eating away at his innards.
5. Math tends to be correct while on the other hand magic holy powers does not.
6. I don't believe in god for the same reason that most people do believe in god, it is comfortable for me. It is much more calming to believe that at the moment of death, I will forget everything and simply not exist. That sounds much better than spending eternity with the same old fat guy with a white beard.
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1. If god was omnipotent, he would already know if we would sin or not, therefore hell would be obsolete.
2. This also leads to the existance of "fate", however the bible obviously doesn't side with the idea of a pre-determined destiny therefore even if I am wrong on the first part the two ideas still contradict each other.
3. Our solar system is helio-centric, which pwns god.
4. Believing in the good of the lord obviously isn't helping the starving child in Malaysia with tube-worms eating away at his innards.
5. Math tends to be correct while on the other hand magic holy powers does not.
6. I don't believe in god for the same reason that most people do believe in god, it is comfortable for me. It is much more calming to believe that at the moment of death, I will forget everything and simply not exist. That sounds much better than spending eternity with the same old fat guy with a white beard.
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We are not talking about god. we are talking about why aren't you believing in any religion. There are some religions without gods. And most of the time, you are referring only to christianity, judaism, and islam god. However, Buddaism, i believe, doesn't have any god, where as hinduism has infinities of gods. Just because you don't believe in christian god doesn't mean it is the same "god" as the one of Hinduism, which i believe is mainly Brahma.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2006-06-05 at 21:33:32
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We are not talking about god. we are talking about why aren't you believing in any religion. There are some religions without gods. And most of the time, you are referring only to christianity, judaism, and islam god. However, Buddaism, i believe, doesn't have any god, where as hinduism has infinities of gods. Just because you don't believe in christian god doesn't mean it is the same "god" as the one of Hinduism, which i believe is mainly Brahma.
Then in that case, I believe in logic and reason.
Edit: Are you happy?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falcon_A on 2006-06-05 at 21:39:06
nah, a regular.
the person below me is an elite (*sigh*)
the person below me is an elite (*sigh*)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-06-05 at 21:41:09
Jammed, you are only referring to the only instance in which the killing actually took eight minutes to kill. I mean not all of the death penalty is all that painful and disgusting. Most of the time, in fact, is neat and organized. I mean, I am clearly against the death penalty, but look at it this way. Would you want the criminal who killed your entire family to suffer by death penalty, or just sit at the jail probably hangin around with his buddy? Some jails offer some entertainment, like games, for inmates to play. Some criminals actually deserve the death penalty. They clearly killed many people without a doubt. Clear evidences show it that it only could have been him who murdered people. I think many people would choose the death penalty than rather being in jail.
I am too lazy to give the con side of this right now.. maybe ill post more later.
I am too lazy to give the con side of this right now.. maybe ill post more later.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JordanN_3335 on 2006-06-05 at 22:10:54
nah, a regular
The person below me is about to not about what he think he is but didnt yet has to start posting.
The person below me is about to not about what he think he is but didnt yet has to start posting.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-06-05 at 22:15:43
QUOTE(Deathawk @ Jun 5 2006, 04:11 PM)
1)As long as it's justified, yeah, it's fine.
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It is right to kill another human?