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Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:19:58
Instead of rambling, tell me how it corrupts it, and why a safe verson isn't possible.

Also, do you support an automodder, why make an automodder allowed but a safe EUD enabler not allowed?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SacredElf on 2005-08-23 at 21:20:27
i will research for Extended Minerals Status =O!! if i figure out how
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:23:06
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Where there is a will there is a way. Popularity has nothing to do with changing the minds of the demented, and hack addicted. But nothing is ever 100% safe, except for not using it at all.

Then why play starcraft or use an automodder.
Starcraft isn't 100% safe, so we shouldn't use it at all.

That's kinda a stupid argument (you shouldn't use anything not 100% safe).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:24:37
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Instead of rambling, tell me how it corrupts it, and why a safe verson isn't possible.

Also, do you support an automodder, why make an automodder allowed but a safe EUD enabler not allowed?
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Automodder has caused Blizzard to patch SC and restrict people from using it tongue.gif

By using EUDenabler you are ENABLING something that Blizzard specifically prohibits with the new patch.

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[QUOTE][quote]Also, do you support an automodder, why make an automodder allowed but a safe EUD enabler not allowed?[quote]
This is my key argument now.[/QUOTE]

Because they don't do the same thing that's why.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:25:26
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CLARIFICATION: What I mean is that I used to be strongly anti 1.13 series, now I'm pro 1.13 series and pro blizzard. But most people don't realize that yet though.
I would update my possition on the battle net forums, but I lost my CD key at camp.


Wow. You lost the CD-Kay? No comment. S*** happens.

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EUD's are dead, and dumb. Get over them is thx

The way I see it, Blizzard has laid down the law and PATCHED euds, trying to enable them is just dumb. Going against Blizzard makes you unloyal. Being unloyal is bad.


Indeed.

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i think that if you want to sit around and write a program that lets other idiots corrupt one of the best games ever, then i'll see you in hell. Tazzy will be waiting as well.
(If you can't tell i'm talking about hacks)


Would you mind putting in a good word to Satan for me? I'll be coming down soon.

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Instead of rambling, tell me how it corrupts it, and why a safe verson isn't possible.

Also, do you support an automodder, why make an automodder allowed but a safe EUD enabler not allowed?


Nothing is foolproof, but a SAFER, not safe version (Safer the comparative adjective, not safe the condition of being so) is completely possible. That is up to the individual person. It is not, ot allowed, but who will make it? If someone will be willing to do it, then they should. And for corrupted... that does not apply to anything because it doesn't get corrupted anything somethign corrupt. Umm, what are you saying we are saying something is corrupted?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:27:09
So your argument is that we should never use any programs blizzard prohibits.
That's actually a good argument, I'll think that one over.

I bet you don't get warned as much as the other guy in serious discussion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:27:42
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Then why play starcraft or use an automodder.
Starcraft isn't 100% safe, so we shouldn't use it at all.

That's kinda a stupid argument (you shouldn't use anything not 100% safe).


I never said you shouldn't play. Please do not put words that I did not say into my mouth. Please quote where I said anything about one person not being allowed to play if something is not 100 percent safe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:28:42
The other guy's argument isn't making any sense. ( I mean the last part).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Simulant on 2005-08-23 at 21:29:46
Does anybody know of what they think will be in patch 1.13 D? Other than Infested Terran bug fix?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:29:51
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So your argument is that we should never use any programs blizzard prohibits.


Never said that either. I never said we should never use anything prohibited; if I did, then I would be a hypocrite (SCXE and Starforge violate the EULA, and therefore are prohibited by Blizzard, not that they do anything about SCXE).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:30:01
I'm going to stop listening to m.r.bob because he's obviously just going through the OMG LOOK EUD phase that everyone here at SEN went through.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:31:34
I didn't put words in your mouth. I was just saying that you saying that we shouldn't use the EUDen if it wasn't 100% safe was the same as saying we shouldn't use starcraft if it isn't 100% safe.

Devilesks argument is much better.

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Well not the comment directly above. tongue.gif

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Well, maybe your right, I am in that phase, so now you need to help draw me out of it. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:31:57
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Does anybody know of what they think will be in patch 1.13 D? Other than Infested Terran bug fix?


Maybe another hack prevention. It probably would not have to be a big one. It is Blizzard's prerogative to do whatever they need to do.

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I was just saying that you saying that we shouldn't use the EUDen if it wasn't 100% safe was the same as saying we shouldn't use starcraft if it isn't 100% safe.


Yes, you did put words in my mouth.
And that is not what I said. If we could not play Starcraft, what is the point of arguing about it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:31:59
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Well, maybe your right, I am in that phase, so now you need to help draw me out of it. 


No, I don't because it's annoying.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:33:34
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I'm going to stop listening to m.r.bob because he's obviously just going through the OMG LOOK EUD phase that everyone here at SEN went through.


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Well, maybe your right, I am in that phase, so now you need to help draw me out of it.


Devilesk DOES have an idiot support group. One could always consider it if they need to come out of a newb phase.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:34:06
devilesk > Tavrobel
devilesk: short coherent funny arguments that make sense and might acutally get you to change your mind
Tavrobel: Long stupid parinoid arguments that don't take commen sense in to account and just make your waste keystrokes anwsering them.

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PS: Tavrobel is also a jerk.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 21:34:28

I think that it needs an IP vaildation thingy cause spoofers really piss me off.

good addition to patch 1.13d

then we know what will be in patch 1.13e....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:35:02
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Tavrobel: Long stupid parinoid arguments that don't take commen sense in to account and just make your waste keystrokes anwsering them.


If you'd try reading what I say... it would make more sense to your newb mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:35:18
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Devilesk DOES have an idiot support group. One could always consider it if they need to come out of a newb phase.


Speak for yourself closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:36:54
Wait, after I got through the bad english of the second part, he actually made sense, but kinda agreed with me.
He said it's possible, but he doesn't know of anyone who would make it.

I think it's easy enough that the combined team of Heimindal and Disiple of adun (spelling bad) could whip it up pretty easily.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:37:06
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PS: Tavrobel is also a jerk.


I have little tolerance for stupidity and idiots. Forgive me if I piss off someone. It is not my intention to piss them off. Only to insult their stupidity.

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Speak for yourself


I said he could consider it. Didn't say he HAD to do anything, did I?

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I think that it needs an IP vaildation thingy cause spoofers really piss me off.

good addition to patch 1.13d

then we know what will be in patch 1.13e....


Ok. What comes with E?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:38:00
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I said he could consider it. Didn't say he HAD to do anything, did I?


... That makes no sense. You continue to solidify my point about you needing to join.

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I think it's easy enough that the combined team of Heimindal and Disiple of adun (spelling bad) could whip it up pretty easily.


I would ask them to do something that wouldn't be a waste of their time tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:40:19
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... That makes no sense. You continue to solidify my point about you needing to join.


That too makes no sense.
What I wassaying is that one does not eflect upon himself if he offers a way to go; he only reflects upon himself if he sways someone to do something.

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Wait, after I got through the bad english of the second part, he actually made sense, but kinda agreed with me.
He said it's possible, but he doesn't know of anyone who would make it.


Ok. Who are you referring to?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 21:40:57
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Patch 1.13e

We have shot Deathknight, Patches will no longer be needed.


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Duh!

Anyways, EUD = Dead.
You = Need to get over it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:42:06
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You = Need to get over it.



And this refers to whom?
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