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Report, edit, etc...Posted by TERRAINFIGHTER on 2005-08-23 at 21:42:30
QUOTE(TERRAINFIGHTER @ Aug 23 2005, 07:36 PM)
Its good how your helping blizzard and making starcraft safer from virus,s/hacks but no matter what whether you do something good/bad people will ALWAYS find some way to complain tongue.gif

ADDITION: I think everyone here yelling at you for causing the Infested Terrans glitch or yelling at blizzard is a idiot cause it was a accident that anyone couldve made just be glad that there wasnt any other problems created
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they might test the patch before releasin dont u think terrain =D??


Yes but like I sayd it was probably an accident and they didnt find the bug during the testing
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:43:16
QUOTE(Tavrobel @ Aug 23 2005, 08:35 PM)
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I did, and it breaks down like this:
m.r.bob: Well, a safe verson would be nice.
Tavrobel: Maybe, but I don't know anyone who would be willing to go against blizzard's wishes like that.
m.r.bob: Well I think that some SENers could make it. There would be going agaist blizzard's wishes I guess. But what I think blizzard really wants is perfectly safe EUDs. There is no reason for them to hate EUDs besides the security threat they provide.

Now I think (I have nothing to back this up, so I'm making an assumption here) that it is definatly possible to make a EUD enabler that would make EUDs as safe as starcraft currently is without them.

Now you can disagree with the above paragraph, but I already know you do, so don't disagree with it here unless you have program er knowledge of starcraft like DK does, and if you do have that kind of knowledge, specify exactly why it would be too much effort or impossible to make EUDs that safe.

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PS: Tavrobel is still a jerk.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:43:45
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That too makes no sense.
What I wassaying is that one does not eflect upon himself if he offers a way to go; he only reflects upon himself if he sways someone to do something.


Too bad what you say is supposed to be RELEVANT to what I say, especially since you quoted my post. closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 21:47:24
QUOTE(Demaris @ Aug 23 2005, 08:40 PM)

You = Need to get over it.

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I am referring to anyone who isn't over it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:49:00
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I did, and it breaks down like this:
m.r.bob: Well, a safe verson would be nice.
Tavrobel: Maybe, but I don't know anyone who would be willing to go against blizzard's wishes like that.
m.r.bob: Well I think that some SENers could make it. There would be going agaist blizzard's wishes I guess. But what I think blizzard really wants is perfectly safe EUDs. There is no reason for them to hate EUDs besides the security threat they provide.


It actually goes more something like this.

First line same.
Tavrobel: Who would go through the effort?
SIDENOT: I don't care if you go against Blizzard's will. That's your choice, and you know what risks are involved.
Third Line same.

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Too bad what you say is supposed to be RELEVANT to what I say, especially since you quoted my post.


But it does not make sense anymore because we both made no sense.

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Now I think (I have nothing to back this up, so I'm making an assumption here) that it is definatly possible to make a EUD enabler that would make EUDs as safe as starcraft currently is without them.


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Now you can disagree with the above paragraph, but I already know you do, so don't disagree with it here unless you have program er knowledge of starcraft like DK does, and if you do have that kind of knowledge, specify exactly why it would be too much effort or impossible to make EUDs that safe.


This is all you.

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ADDITION:
PS: Tavrobel is still a jerk.


Don't worry. I will always disdain the stupid and criticize the moronic. So call me whatever you want.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:53:03
I think coding a EUD enabler would be as much of a waste of time as coding Penguin Plug.

Blizzard unoffically declared their support for penguin plug when they used it's code to figure out how to patch the crash hack (or used it as their inspiration to patch it). Well anyway, I saw a blizzard rep talk about how he couldn't offically support it, for buisness reasons, but that it was a good program.

I think the same thing might happen with EUDen, but first it will be an illegal program for quite a while. In the end though, blizzard might accept it and kinda work it into a patch, but not offically of course. Offically it would be becuase lots of people asked them to figure out how to enable EUDs while keeping them safe through email and they had free time on their hands (which they certanily don't now).

^ Yes I know everyone else is very skeptical about this scienerio happening, but I think we should at least give it a try. ^

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And the above scenario is why Yoshi should stop being a coward, go against blizzard's wishes and put the EUD enabler back online.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tavrobel on 2005-08-23 at 21:54:05
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^ Yes I know everyone else is very skeptical about this scienerio happening, but I think we should at least give it a try. ^


Go ahead and give it a shot. If it works, I'll throw you a party. My place, bring hockey sticks to whack people with. You have to pay for it though.

And EUDEnabler will always be illegal, circumstance or no circumstance. Whether or not people care is the rule of thumb here. I certainly don't, and you can do what you want. If it works, then give yourself a pat on the back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:55:48
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But it does not make sense anymore because we both made no sense.


You are the one making no sense trying to make me look like I make no sense.

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And the above scenario is why Yoshi should stop being a coward, go against blizzard's wishes and put the EUD enabler back online.


... Never call Yoshi a coward. Going against Blizzard is dumb. Last time I checked SEN doesn't support hacks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:56:45
Now to anwser devilesk's argument, I think that Yoshi should go agaist blizzard's wishes, becuase blizzard would never do something such as attack a webiste like this. I think that what they really want is secuirity risk free EUD.

I also think that blizzard won't continue to ban people using the enabler after a certain period of time.

Yes is goes against blizzard's wishes.
No, that's not a problem.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 21:57:48
m.r.bob, read the No more EUDenabler topic, the whole thing, then come back and argue. K THX
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 21:58:50
I'm going to get off this topic becuase devilesk is off it.

I think going agiainst blizzard is the only way to get everyone what they want.

Why do you think going agaist them is dumb?

ADDITION:
Doing so devilesk...
Bye!

PS: "My name is m.r.bob and I am an idiot" tongue.gif

If Kame and Kow are in, I might as well be to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 22:00:30
It's Idiots Anonymous so you wouldn't know who is in.

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I think going agiainst blizzard is the only way to get everyone what they want.


... I commend you on making no sense at all. Let me put it this way.

Blizzard wants people to not use EUDS, hence the patch.

You are saying people should go against Blizzard.

Going against Blizzard means Blizzard isn't getting what they want.
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I'm going to get off this topic becuase devilesk is off it.


Reading past topics about this issue is THX. It's not our job to personally fill you in on EVERY reason and question that you may have about what you missed. Especially with an issue as annoying as this one.

Which is why I said to read the past topics. Not doing so makes you a plain fool.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Commanda_Panda on 2005-08-23 at 22:06:32
lets make a anti-hack program called Exhale biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 22:07:34
OIC now. A safe version will develop whether or not SEN supports it.
And if SEN won't support it because they want to have a good relationship with blizzard, and because they don't want to be responsible for a dangerous program.
So basically supporting it can only do harm and doesn't make my wishful thinking scenario more or less likely to happen.

The thing I wasn't realizing is that a safe verson would be developed even if Yoshi didn't support it.

I feel like even more of an idiot now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 22:09:05
I doubt and hope there won't be a safe version, even if Heimdal tries to make one tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 22:10:20
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Going against Blizzard means Blizzard isn't getting what they want.

What I was thinking when I wrote that was the whole letter of the law and spirit of the law thing.

Sometimes something forces you to make people do things you really doesn't want to make them do and the only way you can get what you really want is if someone goes against your wishes.
^ Ow my head hurt, I think I'll take a nap ^
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 22:11:30

Well he could make it so the death category for exe pointers is disabled.

Still, i think it's best we let them rest in peace.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 22:12:01
QUOTE(m.r.bob @ Aug 23 2005, 10:10 PM)
What I was thinking when I wrote that was the whole letter of the law and spirit of the law thing.

Sometimes something forces you to make people do things you really doesn't want to make them do and the only way you can get what you really want is if someone goes against your wishes.
^ Ow my head hurt, I think I'll take a nap ^
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Now you're at the point where you are rambling and thinking to much and talking nonsense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-23 at 22:22:08
QUOTE(devilesk @ Aug 23 2005, 09:09 PM)
I doubt and hope there won't be a safe version, even if Heimdal tries to make one tongue.gif[right][snapback]296725[/snapback][/right]
Why? Is it becuase you think that anyone stupid enough to take risks with the EUDen deserves to be punished? So you think Heim DK and Legacy deserve to be punished?

Wait... Your anti DK I forgot, so maybe that is what you think...

ADDITION:
SI, since your reading this, do you plan on updating memgraft at any point? I PMed you but you never answered.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 22:53:12
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Why? Is it becuase you think that anyone stupid enough to take risks with the EUDen deserves to be punished? So you think Heim DK and Legacy deserve to be punished?

Wait... Your anti DK I forgot, so maybe that is what you think...

ADDITION:
SI, since your reading this, do you plan on updating memgraft at any point? I PMed you but you never answered.


So ignorant, such a fool.

Rofl I like the "I'm anti-DK"

I also like how you bring Heim DK and Legacy into this when it's totally irrelevant. You're worse than Tavrobel rofl.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-08-23 at 22:57:11
QUOTE(m.r.bob @ Aug 23 2005, 10:22 PM)
Why? Is it becuase you think that anyone stupid enough to take risks with the EUDen deserves to be punished? So you think Heim DK and Legacy deserve to be punished?

Wait... Your anti DK I forgot, so maybe that is what you think...

ADDITION:
SI, since your reading this, do you plan on updating memgraft at any point? I PMed you but you never answered.
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QUOTE(devilesk @ Aug 23 2005, 10:53 PM)
So ignorant, such a fool.

Rofl I like the "I'm anti-DK"

I also like how you bring Heim DK and Legacy into this when it's totally irrelevant. You're worse than Tavrobel rofl.
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Play nice, you two.



Well it's almost a whole day into 1.13c, and still no new patch...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-23 at 22:59:27
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Play nice, you two.


... Go away smile.gif

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Well it's almost a whole day into 1.13c, and still no new patch...


Wow we only used to get a patch once a year. Now we get them twice a month and you expect another patch in a day? That's ironic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-23 at 23:21:37
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Wow we only used to get a patch once a year. Now we get them twice a month and you expect another patch in a day? That's ironic.


Desperate times call for desperate measures i suppose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xghozt on 2005-08-23 at 23:23:25
i dont understand the cant build infested terren, i can build them fine..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HeroicRaptor on 2005-08-24 at 00:47:12
Have you gotten 1.13c?
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